Thanks for the insight HE, you always have a solid answer and it's much appreciated. You too, Vlad.

 

I guess my question is this: what kind of interface works well for you? The light I have now has a button on the back where I can depress for momentary, and click for on. I don't like it. I don't like how easy it is to accidentally turn on the light when I only wanted momentary and so forth.

Thanks for the insight HE, you always have a solid answer and it's much appreciated. You too, Vlad.

 

I guess my question is this: what kind of interface works well for you? The light I have now has a button on the back where I can depress for momentary, and click for on. I don't like it. I don't like how easy it is to accidentally turn on the light when I only wanted momentary and so forth.

 

 

the inforce works the best out of everything I have played with.. but I will accept that many find the light output inadequate.. they need to make it bright.. because the ergonomics of that thing are absurd.. 

When I didn't know what I didn't know - I though tape switches for white lights were the heat, 3 point slings were the way to go, 60 blinding lumens were all I would ever need, and "full retard" was the only way to grab a vert grip. Looking back, not one of those assumptions were correct.

 

As I learned what it really means to fight with a rifle, I shitcanned them all with a quickness. Speaking soecifically of tape switches, they are fragile, complicated, fail at the worst possible moment, are not field repairable and add an extra layer of "Murphy" to your setup, especially if the only thing you are switching on and off is a white light. When you add the complexity of a DBAL/PEQ and IR illum to the mix, well then compromises have to be made so you can control everything with your offhand and still run the gun. That is a topic for another conversation, but even then the white light is set up without a tape switch and has a permanent on-off option.

 

Momentary only switches are good for one thing only, searching a large unknown and uncluttered space with a white light. Once you locate your threat and it turns from "searching for threats" to "fixing a known threat in a known location" a momentary switch is nothing but a problem. How do you run the light when shooting from asymmetric positions where you can't get that support hand out there to the switch? What do you do if one of your arms or hands in injured? What if you are carrying your kid, pet, wife, or neighbor with your "light hand"? How do you dial a phone to call 911 and keep your light on? You are now relegated to opening every door in the dark, since the hand that is grasping the door handle can't switch the light on. Reloads and malfuntion clearing - better practice in darkness. Self aid - better now how to treat your own wounds or wounds on others by feel. Did you ever try to actually shoot in darkness while keeping a momentary switch on? Strobe city brother - you get the blinks.

 

You can still use a "clicky" type switch as a momentary, it's how I run all of my guns. It is simple, fast, intuitive, robust, and it works.

 

I was talking to stickman (I have no idea what his real name is) on facebook one day.. and he explained all that prior to me going through several switches... 

 

needless to say I should have listened.. 

I was talking to stickman (I have no idea what his real name is) on facebook one day.. and he explained all that prior to me going through several switches...

 

needless to say I should have listened..

We should all be so lucky to have someone drop solid knowledge on us at an early stage in our development, regardless of the pursuit.

 

More importantly, we should all be so open in our mindset to recognize wisdom that was earned the hard way from those that came before is for what it is.

I know it's not the same as the 500-800 lumen lights you guys are talking about but I just got the 200 lumen inforce. Haven't had a chance to play with it on the rifle much yet it seems it will suit my purposes.

I know it's not the same as the 500-800 lumen lights you guys are talking about but I just got the 200 lumen inforce. Haven't had a chance to play with it on the rifle much yet it seems it will suit my purposes.

 

love it just dont like the lack of multifunction 

We should all be so lucky to have someone drop solid knowledge on us at an early stage in our development, regardless of the pursuit.

 

More importantly, we should all be so open in our mindset to recognize wisdom that was earned the hard way from those that came before is for what it is.

 

agreed.. 

the notion of having the switch at 12 oclock is what sold me since I normally ride my thumb pretty high.. but it just didnt work as expected.. lesson learned.. lol

I like my light and it's clicky switch placed at 11:00. Seems to be the best of both worlds. If behind cover/concealment I know that if my sights are clear to my target then my light is clear, and it places the switch in a spot that it is easy to manipulate without changing my grip.

 

I have no problem using the clicky as a momentary switch either. The button has enough travel to give you plenty of time to back off before it "clicks" on.

 

Oh, and Secret of the Universe #219: If you press it all the way in to the "click", just press it again to turn it off.

What are the first 218 secrets!?

love it just dont like the lack of multifunction

The one I just received is multifunction (momentary, on/off). Unless that's not what you're talking about.

The one I just received is multifunction (momentary, on/off). Unless that's not what you're talking about.

 

 

neat they used to be listed as momentary only... 

neat they used to be listed as momentary only...

Press and hold for more than 0.5 seconds and it's momentary

Press and release within that time and it's on

Then there are low power and strobe modes, which can be disabled.

neat they used to be listed as momentary only... 

 

Got an IR version too

http://www.inforce-mil.com/wml-sand.php

We use an IR/WL Inforce model that is constant on/off with a low and a high setting - It's on an issued breaching shotgun. It's adequate for that purpose.

 

Press and hold for more than 0.5 seconds and it's momentary

Press and release within that time and it's on

Then there are low power and strobe modes, which can be disabled.

 

 

mine does that as well but it is the lower lumens version..