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Second Amendment Preservation and Protection Act (SAPPA)

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I know people that have carried in Disney World. "People" meaning more than one. I guarantee you people carried there today.

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I know people that have carried in Disney World. "People" meaning more than one. I guarantee you people carried there today.

People carried in NJ today too. Doesn't mean it is allowed. Disney is pretty strict about not carrying in the parks.

 

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There is a huge difference.

 

Carrying in Jersey is 5 to 10 in prison. Usually 7.

 

In America, people don't call the cops if they catch you with a gun where they don't want you to have one. They tell you to put in in your car. This is not something Jersey residents would understand. And it is CERTAINLY not legal advice ;)

 

Disney World is not going to catch you with a gun. That's silly. And, if they did, they are not going to press charges. Nobody does.

 

There is a person I know very well that carried to a Phillies game. He noticed the two people in front of him were dressed in the same T-shirts and shorts, one guy, one girl. Then he noticed they were both printing. Then he noticed they both had wires coming out of their ears. Then he looked around and noticed that Joe Biden was seated about 15 feet away from him while he was carrying two guns.

 

You guys have no idea how the country works.

Did you also notice that neither of your Disney World CCWs had a valid FL CCW and your example at Disneyland in CA was a convicted Felon?

 

No example yet presented of a valid CCW license holder arrested for carrying at Disney World.

 

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Did you also notice that neither of your Disney World CCWs had a valid FL CCW and your example at Disneyland in CA was a convicted Felon?

 

No example yet presented of a valid CCW license holder arrested for carrying at Disney World.

 

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https://www.google.com/amp/www.foxnews.com/us/2016/10/26/2-charged-with-trying-to-bring-guns-into-disney-parks.amp.html

 

I said Disney banned guns. Never said it was illegal and you would be arrested. I said they will call the cops. They file a trespass against anyone bringing in a firearm. You won't be arrested if you have valid CCW but you will lose the $100 you spent that day on a ticket and you will possibly not be allowed back in the park in the future.

 

So Me 1 you and Mipa 0

 

Here is the official policy.

 

https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/park-rules/

 

Here is an older incident where man was made to leave the park but not arrested.

 

http://www.browardpalmbeach.com/news/disney-world-guest-brings-loaded-gun-onto-ride-6441222

 

Last year Disney got much more strict with their Anti-Gun Policy

 

https://www.google.com/amp/www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2016/01/robert-farago/disney-theme-parks-new-gun-control-no-storage-and-we-will-wand-you/amp/

 

Point being no guns in Disney.

 

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We are in agreement this time Nick. The reason I was so sure firearms were not allowed is I was just at Disneyland in November and Disneyworld a couple years ago. You will without a doubt have a trespass signed against you and have to leave the park. If staying on Disney property more than likely your entire vacation will be over.

 

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Yepper.  If it's a private place that isn't on the state list of places where carrying is prohibited by Fl. Statute (and that list is about to get a bit shorter, actually, if the current bill regarding it is passed), then you can carry there legally. And "no Carry" signs do not have any force or effect in the  law.  HOWEVER, if you are caught carrying by the property owner, they can ask you to leave. If you refuse to leave, then you've just committed an act of "Armed trespass..."  a 3rd degree felony in FL.   FS 810.09... Burglary and Trespass. 

 

Or, as said in PRNJ legalese,  a "crime of the third degree."  :D

Walt must be turning over in his grave. First they destroy his vision for Disneyworld. All of Epcot was supposed to be under a dome and the monorail was supposed to service everywhere including Celebration U.S.A. Now they go Left Wing Liberal and Anti-Gun.

 

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Has anything happened in the past month?

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Response to: Anything happening this month?

Yes, there are a few things in the works.  However the Appeals Court has not made a ruling yet.

We are not pushing as we would like Trump's SCOTUS appointment to be in place before we appeal there.

 

Having said that the court swamp in this country has been so badly infested with liberal slime over the past 40 years even the President of the United States can't get either the District COurt or the Circuit court to rule on the law.  We are in frightening times fellas. 

 

I just hope DJT has some plan for dealing with these critters.  If he doesn't, it won't be too long before unarmed Americans will be inundated with terrorists.

Dwight 

Having said that the court swamp in this country has been so badly infested with liberal slime over the past 40 years even the President of the United States can't get either the District COurt or the Circuit court to rule on the law. We are in frightening times fellas.

Enough with the hyperbole. That nonsense creates as many anti's as far left propaganda. It's counter productive. I cringe every time I see it in the legal briefs you post. KNOW YOUR AUDIENCE. Ugh.

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Cringe away Dude,

It our style and directness is what has kept this alive.

When you file your next brief or RICO action let us know how you make out.

We'd love to see hyperbole-less rhetoric.

Dwight

Legal Battle fatigue. Those that battle get it. Those that watch cause is.

Jus sayen.

Keep on keeping on SAPPA! I appreciate your efforts

Same here - Keep up the good work, I appreciate it.

I have to agree with SAPPA on this one. Keep up the style that is working. Screw the Liberal Scum

 

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Legal Battle fatigue. Those that battle get it. Those that watch cause is.

Jus sayen.

Keep on keeping on SAPPA! I appreciate your efforts

I agree.  keep on fighting!

 

and keep us posted!

Keep up the good work Dwight!

You efforts are much appreciated!

There are those that fight for our 2A rights like SAPPA, the NRA, ANJRPC, NJ2AS, SAF and many others and what do we do?  We argue and complain about methods and find fault with EVERY single one.

 

We are a 2A group and we can't even come together on 2A!  No wonder nothing good ever happens for 2A in this God forsaken state!

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Hey All,

Thanks so much for all your support and comments.

Nick and I and the others working on this almost everyday for over two years really do appreciate it.

 

For the gentleman that thinks I may be "touchy", you bet I am.  Because of the work we have done I can't answer my phone anymore and I never open my front door without looking out first to see who is knocking.  Only those involved in this can understand what the left does to stop this work.  Nick has been threatened with death and the FBI has informed him that his name has been found on a radical website's hit list.

 

So when people who are supposedly on our side, contribute snarky remarks which I see after having made yet another trip back from Trenton, yup, I do get just a bit "touchy".

 

Thanks again to everyone who understands the work and the sacrifices Mr. Purpura has invested in this project.  We will be posting another update in a few days,  A few things have happened that may be of interest to you.

 

Regards,

Dwight & Nick

Dwight, its glaringly obvious that NJ is using their strongest weapon-time. Trying to wear you out and I compliment you guys on your patience, not something I'm good with lol..Question, does your efforts get compromised or somehow minimized when there is a change of administration such as when a new gov/others are ele ted since some of your case is against specific persons who may not be around when/if your case goes to court?

I hear you Dwight and nick. I guess id be a bit touchy also. But youve come this far. Dont let it wear you down. You have a vast amount of support here. How long can they drag this on for. Realistically!!! Can this go on for years ?

Nick will get his permit

I dont think thats the object of his obsession. Its more than that. Its for the people. Constitutionalism.

^^^^^THIS^^^^^

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Reply to: "Can this go on for years?"

 

For sure the Circuit Courts are the most difficult to get through.  There are ways to push the activity and if that is not done, especially for cases which will require the court to ignore the Constitution and rule ideologically, but Nick has told us not to push it at this time.

 

Right now the SAPPA Group has decided that this delay is beneficial to our case in that if the 3rd Circuit rules against us and it goes to the Supreme Court sitting at only 8 members, a 4 -4 tie would revert the case back to the Circuit Court and their ruling would stand.  

 

So while we, on the outside, show concern over the delays, we actually have no problem them in the hope that the 9th Justice being appointed by Trump will turn the tide.  He has a great record of supporting the 2nd Amendment.  

 

Hope this answers your question.

Dwight

I dont think thats the object of his obsession. Its more than that. Its for the people. Constitutionalism.

Agree.

But it's how they shut him up. Keep us from winning.

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Lime I said....9+ metal detectors at mk with disney swat and a heavy sheriff's presence

 

My guess knife or gun ur getting picked up

The police presence is unfortunate. We are sacrificing freedom for security. Never did I think America would look like Israel. Nothing I hate more than seeing cops with rifles on the street.

 

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