1 hour ago, ChrisJM981 said:

They can borrow my shotgun. It's great for trap, right @Krdshrk?

 

That is a beaut!

37 minutes ago, Ray Ray said:

Not by anyone here.  Lots of duck and cover cats runnin around these parts.

never forget, all politics are local and human behavior most certainly manifest itself to this principle.  This is why I have hope

2 hours ago, ChrisJM981 said:

They can borrow my shotgun. It's great for trap, right @Krdshrk?

 

nice..I thought this was restricted here?

2 minutes ago, myhatinthering said:

nice..I thought this was restricted here?

A thumbhole stock isn't considered a pistol grip, so it's good to go. 5 rd mags too. 

4 minutes ago, ChrisJM981 said:

A thumbhole stock isn't considered a pistol grip, so it's good to go. 5 rd mags too. 

Read the new ban language coming......  sadly...

4 minutes ago, ChrisJM981 said:

A thumbhole stock isn't considered a pistol grip, so it's good to go. 5 rd mags too. 

I thought they were no go, thanks for clarifying.  Now, what is it, where did you get it and are there any left??????????????  must have

36 minutes ago, myhatinthering said:

I thought they were no go, thanks for clarifying.  Now, what is it, where did you get it and are there any left??????????????  must have

I'll PM you. 

50 minutes ago, myhatinthering said:

I thought they were no go, thanks for clarifying.  Now, what is it, where did you get it and are there any left??????????????  must have

Better hurry, they ain't bringing anymore in and now there's one less available.....

1 hour ago, USRifle30Cal said:

Read the new ban language coming......  sadly...

Plenty here will gladly follow......

sadly...

amazing that they can pass 'feel good' laws with impunity.  need to stop this, need to stand up and say no

ANJRPC said that, but now they're saying comply.....

6 minutes ago, myhatinthering said:

  need to stop this, need to stand up and say no

When is that going to start?

 

3 hours ago, myhatinthering said:

how very nationalist socialist err uhh communist err uhh progressive a line......the fact it needs to be said is what is wrong with the left

If anyone who knows anything about me ever wonders why I no longer post in this sewer of imbecilic incivility, look no further than this post. Next time I know something (like Pennsylvania about to make your N.H. and Utah nonresident permits worthless), or think of something that might help,  I'll be sure to keep it to myself.

11 minutes ago, Newtonian said:

If anyone who knows anything about me ever wonders why I no longer post in this sewer of imbecilic incivility, look no further than this post. Next time I know something (like Pennsylvania about to make your N.H. and Utah nonresident permits worthless), or think of something that might help,  I'll be sure to keep it to myself.

think you got your panties in a bunch over nothing.  Not sure if you are having a bad day or if your reading comp is off tonight but you totally missed the point of the post.  In no way was that negatively directed at you but if you UNDERSTOOD what you were reading, you'd get that.

 

 

3 hours ago, ChrisJM981 said:

A thumbhole stock isn't considered a pistol grip, so it's good to go. 5 rd mags too. 

A pistol grip is whatever they want to define a pistol grip.

1 hour ago, Newtonian said:

If anyone who knows anything about me ever wonders why I no longer post in this sewer of imbecilic incivility, look no further than this post.

Yet, you lowered yourself into the sewer to write a post about how superior you are.  Interesting.

4 hours ago, ChrisJM981 said:

A thumbhole stock isn't considered a pistol grip, so it's good to go. 5 rd mags too. 

where in the law is thumbhole stock defined? I looked and I don't see that.. 

1 hour ago, GRIZ said:

A pistol grip is whatever they want to define a pistol grip.

thats not entirely true.. a pistol grip is fairly defined.. 

1.  z. "Pistol grip" means a well-defined handle, similar to that

2. 14  found on a handgun, that protrudes conspicuously beneath the

3. 15  action of the weapon, and which permits the shotgun to be held and

4. 16  fired with one hand.
   
   
   * is it a well defined handle "similar" to on a handgun
   * does it protrude beneath the action
   * could the gun be held and fired with one hand
   
   if yes.. then it is a pistol grip.. 

I'll be interested in this answer.  I know from a "situation" I had if your behind the wheel with the motor running you're operating the vehicle.  People who pull off to use their cell or sit in a parking lot can get nailed. They should exit the car.  But your own driveway? [mention=3967]High Exposure[/mention]?  Or else I'll wait for some people to get their butts out of bed and make a call or two.  

You can not get nailed for using cell phone in parked car in private parking lot. Law says on public roadway or highway.


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Please remove this.  They really don't need any ideas.

Already happens in some European countries.


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This is one of the best threads ever seems many have woken up to how much of a turd Nappen is. Hopefully there will be zero attendance at his next talk. All it took was the Pantano case for me. Maybe still others will wake up to the rest of the people in the 2A community that are put on a pedestal, but are only profitting from it, and won't attend the next rally/infomercial for people that have no poblem using bankruptcy laws to beat contractors out of money. Until the leadership is removed from ANJRPC there will never be true victories because it doesn't benefit the leaders bottomline. They do just enough to keep the donations flowing.


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You can not get nailed for using cell phone in parked car in private parking lot. Law says on public roadway or highway.

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You can’t be ticketed for using a cell phone anywhere while parked. Law specifies handheld phone while driving.

You can either pull over to answer or use a hands free device... both comply with the law in how it is written.

1 hour ago, capt14k said:

You can not get nailed for using cell phone in parked car in private parking lot. Law says on public roadway or highway.

 

Exactly. Note the required elements of the offense: "The use of a wireless telephone or electronic communication device by an operator of a moving motor vehicle on a public road or highway shall be unlawful except..." (39 § 4-97.3)

You have to look elsewhere for the definition of operating/operator, but it's basically being in control of the vehicle (it can be parked and you're still operating it), that's why they add the second element - for this statute, the vehicle has to be moving AND on a public road or highway.

Note that there are some MV statutes that eliminate the last two. For example, DWI (39 § 4-50) only requires that you are the operator of a vehicle with a BAC over (0.08%). You do not have to be moving/driving and you do not have to be on a public road or highway. You can be drunk sitting behind the wheel of your car parked in your driveway and still be charged with DWI.

8 hours ago, Scorpio64 said:

Yet, you lowered yourself into the sewer to write a post about how superior you are.  Interesting.

apparently he's not so superior given his lack of reading comp

1 minute ago, myhatinthering said:

apparently he's not so superior given his lack of reading comp

Let's be adults and keep personal attacks from public sections. =)  Keep it off at least in the 1st Amendment Lounge. =)

Thanks. 

1 hour ago, capt14k said:

This is one of the best threads ever seems many have woken up to how much of a turd Nappen is. Hopefully there will be zero attendance at his next talk. All it took was the Pantano case for me. Maybe still others will wake up to the rest of the people in the 2A community that are put on a pedestal, but are only profitting from it, and won't attend the next rally/infomercial for people that have no poblem using bankruptcy laws to beat contractors out of money. Until the leadership is removed from ANJRPC there will never be true victories because it doesn't benefit the leaders bottomline. They do just enough to keep the donations flowing.


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He hypes himself very well. It is easy to call oneself a law guru and write books on NJ gun law with legal opinions that are designed to play it safe and insulate himself from liability. Now I understand there is what is legal, and what you may potentially be arrested for. If one totes in s commercial that police use his book, why wouldn't it contain factual law instead of lowering the legal bar with his interpretations?

Example: With 100% certainty he can state, "The legal way to transport ammunition is separate from firearms, magazines, and in a locked container.", or words to that effect.

I'm confident I can transport loaded magazines separate from a firearm. If anyone has his book I'd love to read the cited case law that his opinion is based on. 

1 hour ago, myhatinthering said:

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Right or wrong everyone has the right to an opinion, particularly when it comes time to firearms.  Calling someone a dumbass for their take on laws or anything firearms related only discourages people from asking questions, merely because they are afraid of someone calling them "stupid" or whatnot for what may be common knowledge for older gun owners.  The main goal and why I started the community 10 years ago was to create a community of gun owners and a safe place for new, less experienced, or more conservative, older gun owners.   

For those that really do want to show their displeasure, there are places here to do so.  We don't over-moderate or silence folks here, we only ask to behave like decent human beings. 

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REdacting personal attack

17 hours ago, diamondd817 said:

He's a partner or owner (forgot which) of a security firm.

Thought you needed to be retired LE to get a PI License and owner of a security firm doesn't automatically get a CCL either......IMO, it's the same corrupt BS the judges, lawyers and politicians follow in this state....then he sells the idea of CCL in this state.....Ha.

5 minutes ago, Maksim said:

Right or wrong everyone has the right to an opinion, particularly when it comes time to firearms.  Calling someone a dumbass for their take on laws or anything firearms related only discourages people from asking questions, merely because they are afraid of someone calling them "stupid" or whatnot for what may be common knowledge for older gun owners.  The main goal and why I started the community 10 years ago was to create a community of gun owners and a safe place for new, less experienced, or more conservative, older gun owners.   

For those that really do want to show their displeasure, there are places here to do so.  We don't over-moderate or silence folks here, we only ask to behave like decent human beings. 

hold on, I'm not questioning his opinion or the like.  I resonded to something he said to which he replied curtly assuming I was knocking him which I was not.

I'm all about people having an opinion and being able to articulate that opinion whether right, wrong or indifferent.

Just now, myhatinthering said:

hold on, I'm not questioning his opinion or the like.  I resonded to something he said to which he replied curtly assuming I was knocking him which I was not.

I'm all about people having an opinion and being able to articulate that opinion whether right, wrong or indifferent.

Can discuss offline, was just merely pointing out we can get our messages across without direct personal attacks.