Maksim

Welcome to the community. Reference letters suck BUT that is why you make gun friends. We have regular, organized get together and you are free to get together with another member. While in NJ, the last 8 years of getting permits, I used forum members for references. I will say though, for handguns, PA is not the best example... we do have that additional handgun form that asks even more info... such as employer address and of course the stupid question of your "Age" right next to your date of birth.

Thank you for your service. As someone who took the oath to defend the constitution you would surely appreciate people wanting to trample rights... including the 2nd Amendment. I am all for encouraging firearms training, but "should" does not mean "must". Much like I do not require you to take and show proof of public speaking and grammar classes before posting on this community, it is very silly for a gun owner to suggest someone must possess an NJ FID card to shoot, especially when it is 100% wrong! You need an FID card to PURCHASE in NJ. However, if one spouse has FID and brings family member to shoot, they do not need an FID especially if they are merely shooting with you. Or I suppose we need to have our kids get an FID card too before they ever pick up one of our guns? lol. Again on the gun training... quite silly again. Better yet, do I need gun training if I am merely collecting firearms? And who is to say what training is enough? How do you know that the OP may not be a former Operator who is now an NRA Instructor and is a USPSA Grand Master shooter? We do have all types of community members here, lots of veterans, many LEO, mostly conservatives, some liberal but most definitely many open minded individuals. Just trying to understand your point of view because from what we have seen over the past 10 years, something is getting lost in translation. OR at the very least, people do not revive posts from 10 years ago to make their first replies... A good place would be to make an introduction post introducing yourself to the community here... https://www.njgunforums.com/forum/index.php?/forum/67-introductions/

You have a NJ Carry permit?

There are plenty retired folks in the area who would be willing to go. I know of at least 4 forum members who live in Lehigh Valley or close on the Jersey side. Pick a date, post it, you will have folks that bite and likely willing to carpool. Driving to PA you will not have issues but driving back you are likely to hit traffic. I am fairly close to Nj border and it took me 2.5 hours to drive to Garden State shooting center

Thanks. You hear the stories of all of these superb bring backs being stored on a farm by a vet. This was a general estate auction in a big Quaker area. Guy passed away and this the auction. Farm equipment, guns, etc. Also for sale we’re some nice old Smiths, Colts, and a few shotguns. Colts were in beautiful condition. This was a smaller auction house that does not do online bidding and had no buyers premium which is just a wow. Colt Trooper Mark 3 E-nickel finish $675(worth about $2k) colt King Cobra $1k really nice Les Baer 1912 $1050 Norinco MAK90 like new in box $650 Armscor M1A $1100 (someone mentioned possibly mismatched barrel?) but apparently really good price. Just goes to show, keep options open and you can come across some nice guns and collector pieces for a good price. Overall, seems like gun auctions you either have some really good deals and a lot of stuff that goes for above retail.

Cool. Certainly really cool and historic guns and may request a new USA made one from Walther. I never had issues with slide bite with other guns but I can certainly see getting hit with this one.

Fairly positive you can do single but if you post the date, I am sure other NJgf members would be happy to join. Quite a few of us are now in the Lehigh Valley area .

Do you need to stay there? From Ocean County it is still a good day Trip.

Have always loved the way the Walther PPK looked and wanted one, until I shot one and remembered the horrible recoil and the big reliability issues with the various US Made and imported models. Was out visiting a gun auction in the middle of PA (or what felt like) and found this guy that I needed to liberate. 1940 Walther PP. 1 Mag, no holster unfortunately. Generally not a fan of Nazi stuff but this was a very good piece of history at a very reasonable price. Really good condition, regular holster wear.

If you are not rushing and going for groups, a crisp triggered gun is always going to be better. Hammer fired guns in single action will generally break far more cleanly than a double action striker fired gun, even with trigger work. Try a nicely tuned 1911 or a CZ 75 variant and you won't go back. Essentially it comes down to a far cleaner wall and break of the trigger. Less opportunity to jerk the trigger especially as you combine it with a lighter single action trigger pull. Don't get me wrong, striker fired double action guns do have a lot of perks, but the trigger pull is not one of them.

Awesome! Aaron is certainly "good people."

Is this Aaron R from the old Shongum days?

Spoke with a north/central jersey range... should hear something shortly!

One of my favorite related sites, Berger's Twist Rate Stability Calculator. https://bergerbullets.com/twist-rate-calculator/

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Much like with the M1 Carbine, I doubt many if any people here will be contacting NJSP. The people who will will be... 1. People who go into the gun store, see these guns on display and won't believe the FFL and will call. 2. Other FFLs. 3. People at the range who see someone shooting one of these.

I would imagine yes... especially if going to another FFL... but I had it done both ways. One of those is no longer in business. lol. @remixer @FreedomSportsLLC @PK90 @JT Custom Guns

Believe it or not NJSP has A LOT of gun supporters. If NJSP was anti-gun, these firearms would not even be here for discussion. The issue is not the NJSP but NJ gun laws and anti-gun AG.

It's coming. This is why people can't have nice things. I am saying this will be done win under 12 months. +100 without a doubt. Ok, so I stayed out of this for a while but have been on the phone with a few manufacturers and others in the industry who are in direct contact with NJSP and have experience with this elsewhere. I have not contacted NJSP myself. I think this is going to boil down to whether you are going to be right or effective. Yes, you can build your own, BUT you should expect to get hassled and likely charged if you do something else stupid. As per others, NJSP's full intention is that they do not want people building their own and are working on a letter for this. Let's be honest here, THIS IS A LOOPHOLE, expect and treat it as one that can close at any moment and be ready to defend it to the letter of the law, including if need be in court. This is why for 99% of gun owners and folks here on the forum, if you want this... go buy one and carry a copy of the NJSP letter in the gun case because you will be pulling it out, especially if it is at places like Ford Dix/Range 14. And NJSP full expects numerous people who build their own, to get arrested for not following the definition to the letter of the law on such things as OAL, type of foregrip, etc. That is of course until the AG decides he wants to focus on these and will be going to change the definition to include these firearms. So legal to build your own? Yes. Would I? Yes... in PA. lol, no way in hell am I bringing it to NJ. I will confidently transport and shoot a Modern Materiels or a Dark Storm Industries rifle though with a copy of the letter in the case. Having something on NJSP letterhead that says it is okay will improve your lifespan versus trying to argue how your built firearm complies with the letter of the law.

Can you specify what date and time this was? And of course the VIN number of that ZL1. =P @Malsua very cool to be able to do that without being concerned about $$$$$$$. Very cool, especially in a Ford Focus ST. Fastest for me, outside of track, was a Vette C6 somewhere on Florida pike between West Palm Beach and Orlando.... 120 or so.

Great perspective. so all of it is basically PA legal then. =P ? I was interested in the consumer legal NJ ones.

so any videos of what is NJ legal?

Quite welcome. And I will say I shipped both ways. Do keep in mind you are supposed to take it directly to the UPS or Fedex center... not one of the authorized dealers... so take that into account. Yes, many do ship from like a Pakmail or another shipping place, but supposed to be at the actual Fedex or UPS distribution place.

First step would be whether his FFL will accept a package from an individual. Some will, some won't. If not, you will have to get your FFL to send it to them. As individual, you also have to send "Air" vs an FFL can send ground in many cases that will be cheaper.