CJack

Yeah, thats confusing as heck. So PD->NJSP->PD->CountySuperiorCourt->PD or PD->CountySuperiorCourt->PD or PD->CountySuperiorCourt->Applicant ? or some other variation of it ? The "leaked" memo / write up alludes to PDs working with the Superior Court directly.

I get that about the "qual" requirements. Are you saying the local PDs are sending the applications to NJSP / Trenton for approval ?

yeah, I am trying to get clarification from the poster as to HOW and WHY it went to NJSP. From what I read, I assumed the application goes from local PD (approval) to county superior court for approval or denial. How did it even goto NJSP without poster going through fingerprinting first.

https://www.njgunforums.com/forum/index.php?/topic/104150-nj-ccw-permit-application-experience/&do=findComment&comment=1394981 I totally missed your earlier comment about your app being sent back. Linking here again.. How long did it take NJSP to send the app back to your local PD , from your date of submission. My confusion is, how did the app even goto NJSP from local PD without your fingerprints being done ?

I went with quals for two reasons (yes, I know all these requirements are against etc). 1. NRA Courses I looked were more expensive than doing the straight up qual / testing 2. NJSP already put out specific instructions using the verbiage of "written qualificiation with serial number blah blah blah". Yes, again, we all know it may not be what law / admin code says, but right now it is what it is. Trying to around means one has to goto court to fight the local guys and NJSP. https://www.nj.gov/oag/njsp/firearms/pdf/NJSP_WEBSITE_REVISION_FOR_PTC_v2.pdf Now, its entirely possible that some NRA Certified Instructor out there is willing to provide a piece of paper attesting to your ability in safe handling of a handgun blah blah along with serial number etc and put his / her name down.

Ok, ok, its too early to celebrate. BUT, feel free to share picture of your NJ Carry Permit when you get it. Ofcourse, redact the important stuff. Lol. Alternatively, send a smoke signal for rest of us plebs who is waiting for this unicorn to show up.

Yep, read the whole bill (latest version). Even better with the highlighted portion. Both the highlighted portion and the one quoted seem to indicate the new process only for the "new guys". So the poster who was turned away for "applying on July 6th" should be able to get a permit without the nonsense his PD is quoting.

So can Congress make laws that go against Constitution ?

I prefer them processing the paperwork without delay than being "nice". If you want to have fun, tell him this is NOT your "first permit to purchase a handgun".. :-) https://www.njleg.state.nj.us/bill-search/2022/A4370/bill-text?f=A4500&n=4370_R1 " In order to obtain a permit to purchase a handgun or a firearms purchaser identification card, the applicant shall demonstrate that, within four years prior to the date of the application, the applicant satisfactorily completed a course of instruction approved by the superintendent in the lawful and safe handling and storage of firearms. The applicant shall be required to demonstrate completion of a course of instruction only once prior to obtaining either a firearms purchaser identification card or the applicant’s first permit to purchase a handgun. "

I am trying to get used to this kydex IWB with G26.. cannot seem to find comfortable spot. Appendix, pokes into junk and pokes into belly. 3'clock - prints and pokes into upper side when I sit. Any tips ?

Competent (as in knowing the law) does not often equate to following the law and doing things right way. If anything, the most competent (as in knowing) but corrupt / biased one is the one finding all the loopholes to screw people. Superior Court judges are no different. Its a blessing if we get couple of them in NJ who actually follows US Constitution the way it is meant to be.

Anyone know who actually prints the card, sticks the photo on the card etc ? Is it the court guys or local PD/NJSP ?

Looking at the GFH Qual calendar availability, looks like the initial "wave" of people rushing apply is over.

Lol.. I am talking about Identogo processing the fingerprints AFTER the appointment. Seem to be taking long time for them to get whatever they get to the PDs/NJSP.

Just a suggestion, for long term sustainability, low resource needs and ofcourse, for the lazy, everyone should look at the things that (almost) grow on their own with minimal maintenance. Feel free to add to the list 1. Berries - Rasberries are like weed, they did good year over year but low yield this year. Black berries have some disease but seem to be doing ok. Freeze them all and use through winter. 2. Currants - They seem to be doing pretty good year over year. Yield varies. 3. Apple & Peaches - Did very well last year as it looks like COVID got all the squirrels. Not a fruit this year as it looks like squirrels got 5 jabs of COVID vaccinations thanks to Sleepy Joe. 3. Sunchoke - These guys have been spreading on their own and coming up year over year. Stores well and can actually leave them in the soil and dig up through winter. Bonus - Farts can deter anyone thinking of kidnapping you or coming near you. I want to find other varieties of root vegetables that are zero maintenance and come year over year. What do you have that is low to no maintenance that you like ?

Some folks posted on reddit about Identogo delays (related to their purchase permit).. so I guess they will take money but cannot provide timely service :-)..geez.

Not aware of any "deadline". But you do not want to wait so long that references win lottery and disappear, goto jail, pass away or simply turn against you because you didnt invite them to the wedding ..LOL... I would get references signed at or right before notary date. I had about a week from references sign to handing it in.

From my past experience, my PD DID NOT want me to fill out anything else (Other than applicant info) and SIGN in front of them. Your department / NJSP may treat it differently.

Do you happen to have links to any pictures ? I could only find one (google nj carry permit and images) with the "front" where name and signature of judge issuing the permit.

NJ has about 100 years of evolution before it (may) comes to terms with law abiding regular joe open carrying everywhere. I am not talking about somewhere in the sussex woodslands, but populated Jersey City. Lot of states with lot better 2A laws are still struggling with Karens getting triggered and law abiding bearing the consequences.

Did he guestimate any timeline ?

"Commonly Used".. I guess SCOTUS need to elaborate what that means to folks who dont have "common sense".

@PK90 Correct me, weren't you a cop in NJ in your past life (I remember something that from years ago on these forums).. if so, curious how the "permit" was treated back in your days.

"Olive" ? JK.. Lol..I would just put the color of my skin, to the best interpretation of myself .. unless I guess you put "purple" or something dramatic like that.

Clear, smooth, rosy complexion... ?