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Doesn't cover the origin or destination if possession is not legal at those endpoints. Possession of a firearm is illegal in NJ if you're not in transit to/from an allowed destination. It certainly won't stop an arrest.

I've often wondered about taking a handgun on an out-of-state trip. Obviously, the portion outside the state is outside the remit of NJ law; but what about the section within NJ? Especially if I don't go to a range, and never planned to go to a range, out of state.

I would suppose that the hotel stay would be "a diversion reasonably necessary under the circumstances." Though I an sure there are prosecutors who would disagree

Patience, grasshopper.

He was lead plaintiff, not only one. There are others (the et al. in the suit title).

The last time I applied, I was told by the town cops the delay was with the county.

Sorry, had homeowner crap. Not that you like shooting *my* glock, either. But at least the trigger doesn't suck as bad

IIRC there's a 7-day waiting period from the application date to when the pistol permit can be executed. It never comes up because of the issue time. When I have more time I'll poke at the statutes.

Don't think I will be making it this week; still unpacking from the NRA Annual Meeting

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We shall see. He could grant SAF Motion to dismiss... Unlikely but possible.

Um, US District court is a federal court - hence the US part of the name. Which is what I thought, since the case is essentially a federal civil rights case. I was being lazy and not looking up the case itself The United States District Court for the District of New Jersey (in case citations, D.N.J.) is the federal district court whose jurisdiction is the state of New Jersey. Cases brought in the District are appealed to the United States Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit (except for patent claims and claims against the U.S. government under the Tucker Act, which are appealed to the Federal Circuit).

It takes 4 justices and a lot of time and money to bring a case to SCOTUS. None of those conditions seem impossible

Isn't this already in a federal court?

BEcause we're taking baby steps. No need to go for the Hail Mary, legally speaking.

Assemblyman Carrol regularly submits bills to skip the permit and go to NICS. Generally doesn't go anywhere; but I wonder if he could get it a little further in today's budgetary economy.

It was passed during a period of time in which the Second Amendment was not (yet) understood to "...protect an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home," much less that it does protect other "lawful purposes" such as self-defense outside of the home. With the change in the legal landscape, laws such as this one will change as well.

The problem is that the US Congress passed a law saying that active and retired LEOs (who meet certain requirements) must be permitted to carry, not that anyone must be permitted to carry. The US Congress could pass such a bill, I just doubt they will any time soon.

Doesn't the Law Enforcement Officers Safety Act pretty much mean that retired LEOs can carry regardless of the state's wishes? So of course they don't have to demonstrate "justifiable need" - the laws of the US have done so for them.

New Jersey cares about her citizens, or some such malarkey

Random thought - DC is resisting the Heller attorney's claims for attorney's fees and the judge just dealt DC a (minor) blow in that case; and Chicago is being blatantly stupid about the fees for McDonald. If either of those fine organizations are forced to cough up for high fee awards; wonder if the Guv will shut down an appeal by NJ on the grounds of cost... (For all of that, I predict a loss for freedom at this level and an appeal by the pro-freedom forces).

SCOTUS, as constituted, isn't going to leave this case on NJ's side. NJ's brief willfully ignored what the decisions said about "keep and bear".

I doubt there's any reason to believe an incident reported by Scott Bach didn't happen

This isn't his only case, presumably. The federal judiciary is overloaded (which isn't new). This is sitting in a hopper right now.

Restoral of rights is a long game via the courts. Hopefully once we can get some traction that way we can move to the legislature, either NJ's (fat chance) or the federal one.