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Also here's another question no one has seemed to ask yet: Will existing FPID's be grandfathered into the new system or will they have to re-apply and go through the whole application process all over again? Because it'll really suck if the new system doesn't address the whole priority issue we deal with now which means if you're forced to re-apply for it you could end up waiting another 3 months to a year to get your new card.

If you're having problems getting additional handgun permits or just don't have any spares you could opt for the conversion kit, but most 22lr kits run about the same price as a 22lr pistol. The two benefits of a kit is it retains the same grip/weight of the gun you practicing with and you don't need any permits or even an FPID to purchase the kit. The downfall is you need to do the conversion between calibers every time you need a different gun for the moment. Plus if this is also your home defense gun it kinda sucks to have to load your gun just to realize you forgot the 22lr kit on in a break in scenario.

Honestly if we're paying more and have to renew it every 5 years we better damn well get it within 30 days or less, not this 3 months to a year BS we deal with now.

I'm on my 9th week and still nothing for me. :/

Congrats on that. Unrelated, I've seen in different posts, in different places, that some people are waiting, simply, on the chief's signature. Any idea what the delay is there? Is it simply a matter of them not making it a high priority? If it's simply a signature, which I presume is not the case, it'd be hard to justify not having the time, no? The police chief has to review the application. He's the one who decides whether you can have a FPID or not.

More likely child services showed up and stumbled upon some weed while they were over to make sure any firearms were secure from the kids.

Yeah.. full blown militia training. Out here you're lucky if the officers that come out to arrest you aren't SWAT if you were caught doing all that. Survival training, however, is always a good idea. You might be able to supplement the rest with paintball matches and NRA classes.

Make sure you get the model with the compensator, trust me it helps.

So what do I win?

Guy buried his Glock 21 for 2 years, washed it off with a garden hose, then put it through a 500 stress test with his buddies with no cleaning. Its a shame I don't find them comfortable to shoot.

Yup, I'd go with the 460 myself. I'm not a revolver person, but the two revolvers I really really want are the S&W .460 and the Raging Hornet.

460

That is when you holster your gun in the back of your pants and it rubs your but crack. :lol: :lol: I hate when that happens. Ron, just keep your thumb off the slide The thumb itself wasn't on the slide it was the skin at the base of the thumb between the base of the index finger bellow the hammer kept getting struck by the slide when it came back. I do not know what that part of the hand is called to be honest.

WOW! I hope that's true!

The slide was rubbing against the skin by my thumb when I pulled the trigger. It wasn't enough to cut into the skin, just irritate the hell out of it. Like I said I'm not sure what the correct term is for this so I guess I just made it up to describe what it was doing. All I do know is that is why the 1911 was designed with the beaver tail, to protect your hand from the slide.

Definitely had fun last night and thanks to everyone for letting me blow through 150 rounds test firing some 40's. I'm definitely going to give the M&P another look now especially after the XD Tactical started to give me some slide rash (I think that's the term). Not sure if it was because of the 5" slide or not because I don't remember the service model doing that.

Sifting through the legal jargon, it seems like they have to approve or deny the FIC card in 30 days. I know there are police officers who are members of this thread and no disrespect to them, it seems as though some police departments try to intimidate and make it very time consuming for citizens to complete the whole FIC process. In my opinion this is all just to discourage citizens from applying for firearms permits, and there is nothing we can really do about it except wait. Its not worth the time or $$ to hire a lawyer and make enemies with the people who are in control of the city. Yup, but if you look closely the judge's ruling argues that the 30 day time period starts the moment the paperwork is received from the State PD & FBI, not when you drop off your application. This is what gives local PD's carte blanche to delay giving your FPID for however long they want.

I'm sure this would be argued to death, but I'm pretty sure if you retained your receipts as proof you legally owned said guns before you moved to NJ (older the receipts the better) they can't charge you with illegal possession. The most they can legally do is make you apply for a NJFPID which if you were stupid enough to move here in the first place it should already be on your agenda to get so you can at least purchase ammo.

Should make the evil features list into a T-Shirt.

So we're at the 8 week mark so I decided to make a personal visit. Now there's someone completely new there behind the permits desk. Walked up and told him I wanted to know the status of my FPID. His first response was did I get a letter in the mail and when I responded no he tried dismissing it as I gotta wait longer, but instead of walking away like he had hoped I quoted the 30 day law and told him what that PD has put me through already in front of a few teenagers to him and he immediately got nervous. Like he got jittery and started talking fast trying to keep the blame shift on the state PD and FBI. He admitted there were some letters going out regarding FPID's, but he doesn't know where everything was yet and couldn't check up if any of those was mine. I also found out he's only been in the permits office for a week and a half now which puts his employment there around the same time I made that phone call to the FIU. So it looks as though that phone call rattled up the permits office at the local PD a bit like I hoped.

Problem is because of the ammo shortage the Walmarts don't know when any ammo comes in or what they're getting in until they open up the truck. I was even told any ammo requests get automatically bumped out of the system when they try to enter anything into the computer.

you guys bring the guns i'll bring the ammo 8-)

I might stop by tomorrow night. Managed to get some .40s&w this past weekend so if I come I will bring a box with me. Btw, anyone have an XD Tactical? I wanted to see how well it shoots compared to the service models you guys let me try. Decided I'm going to save up for a better 1911 for after xmas then the Rock Island Armory and I'm going to get the XD40 to start me off once my permits come in (hopefully soon).