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Nice effort.. I will be watching for the Powder Valley deal !! :happy-cheerleaderkid:

+1 on that :music-rockon:

Thank you for confirming what I posted. It is not cut and dry, and the ATF specifically watches for activity such as this. You are referencing an friend that doesn't live in NJ, so it is not a valid example. However, even at that, you have demonstrated that the ATF is looking for reasons to enforce the Backyard Dealer regulations. It is not nonsense. Please be aware that there are regulations and limitations with this kind of activity. You may get away with it once or twice, and you may be able to talk your way out of it, BUT, at least you need to know that ATF looks for this kind of activity.

Keep this in mind. My understanding is.. If you purchase a stripped lower and build your own AR-15, you can not sell it for 10 years!! Unless you have an FFL as a dealer would.

Gentlemen: I am very sorry for having lost track of this thread after I posted. Looks like it was lively. Well, to make it up to you I will offer this Tell-All / End-All video. It's a little lengthy, but stick with it and I am sure you will appreciate the content.

I think this is some interesting commentary here. I don't wish anyone I'll but if Bill Clinton had his way... we would all have your Gun Safes for sale on e-bay. This is the NJ GUN forum right? Does anyone remember something called the Clinton Assault Rifle ban? How about the fact that he supported the UN's global gun ban agenda. Clinton did not run the country well. Luckily there was a republican congress for the majority of his presidency that kept him in check. And as mentioned above, it was the Regan economic policies that created prosperity in this country during his time. Next thing you know, 10 years from now, people will start saying that Obama wasn't such a bad president...geeez... Get well Bill... but then disappear...

So did you shoot it???

Here's your chance to prove it... 8-) http://pilgrimfilms.tv/casting/topshotflyer.pdf

Welcome to Obamica - No standards, no respect, no code to live by. It's F@#$ING disgraceful.

What is that brown or copper looking thing, in the chunk missing out of the rim? It almost looks like the steel cased round has a copper core which is being exposed. If it were at the beginning of my range session, I would set it aside and swear I was going to toss it. However, at the end of my session when I'm looking for One More Round to fill a mag or make a 5 shot group, I'm sure I would shoot it.

PK90 - You may be more knowledgeable than me on this but I find this difficult at best to swallow. I do not mean to improperly challenge you on this but I find it hard to believe. I will do my research. It may have been said here many times, but there is also tons of mis-information on internet blogs. Can you please explain what an SBI# is and how it is issued?

I know you can purchase a long gun with only a FID card. Are you saying that someone can walk into a police station, and request a pistol purchase permit without first having a FID card? Hmmmmmm...

Really? Can you buy a pistol without one? The Firearms ID card shows that you went through and passed the necessary criminal background check and are qualified to own a firearm in accordance with NJ law.

My aoplogies - I just got it on email and hadn't seen it before. Mods, please feel free to delete this post. Thanks!

N.J. Court Says Americans Have No Right To Buy Handguns :naughty: Posted by Declan McCullagh (AP Photo/Judi Bottoni) A New Jersey appeals court has concluded that Americans have no Second Amendment right to buy a handgun. In a case decided last week, the superior court upheld a state law saying that nobody may possess "any handgun" without obtaining law enforcement approval and permission in advance. That outcome might seem like something of a surprise, especially after the U.S. Supreme Court ruled last year in the D.C. v. Heller case that the Second Amendment guarantees "the individual right to possess and carry weapons in case of confrontation." But New Jersey Appellate Division Judge Stephen Skillman wrote on behalf of a unanimous three-judge panel that Heller "has no impact upon the constitutionality of" the state law. That's because, Skillman said, the Supreme Court did not strike down the District of Columbia's de facto handgun ban but instead simply ordered the city to issue a permit. In other words, while Americans may have the right in general to possess arms, the exact contours of that right have not been mapped, especially as the Second Amendment applies to state laws. (The court's majority opinion last year said: "We therefore assume that petitioners' issuance of a license will satisfy respondent's prayer for relief and do not address the licensing requirement.") Look for the Supreme Court to revisit this question in a few months when it hears a case called McDonald v. Chicago. It's a constitutional challenge to Chicago's restrictive gun laws, which prohibit anyone from possessing firearms -- even in their homes -- "unless such person is the holder of a valid registration certificate for such firearm." New Jersey's laws are similar. They say: "No person shall sell, give, transfer, assign or otherwise dispose of, nor receive, purchase, or otherwise acquire a handgun unless the purchaser, assignee, donee, receiver or holder... has first secured a permit to purchase a handgun as provided by this section." Another section dealing with licensing says: "No person of good character and good repute in the community in which he lives, and who is not subject to any of the disabilities set forth in this section or other sections of this chapter, shall be denied a permit to purchase a handgun or a firearms purchaser identification card, except as hereinafter set forth." Some of the exceptions involve criminal records, for instance. What prompted the current lawsuit was a request for a handgun purchase permit that Anthony Dubov submitted to the East Windsor Chief of Police. The police chief denied Dubov's request without giving any reason, in what the appeals court later ruled was a violation of state law. The current East Windsor police chief is William Spain . Oddly, the trial judge upheld that denial, without asking the police chief to testify to explain himself (another violation of state law) and after taking the unusual step of contacting Dubov's previous employers to ask about his background. Dubov's attorney, Michael Nieschmidt ; , argued that the state licensing scheme was unconstitutionally vague and therefore violated the Second Amendment. Skillman concluded that while the Second Amendment doesn't apply, state law and precedent nevertheless required that Dubov receive more due process than he did. The appeals court wrote: "Accordingly, the trial court's affirmance of the police chief's denial of appellant's application for a firearms purchase permit is reversed, and the case is remanded for an evidentiary hearing in conformity with this opinion." -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Declan McCullagh ; is a correspondent for CBSNews.com.

Bolt action is really what you want for accuracy. Semi-Auto's are fun but you can do a lot more in terms of accuracy for the $$$ spent with a good bolt gun. I have a Rem-700 SPS Tactical in .308, and the out of the box accuracy with some hand loads if fantastic. Several weeks ago, I shot a 1.25" group (6 shots) @ 300 yards!! If I can figure out how to post pics, I will put it up. The best $600. I ever spent. The money you save, you will need for upgrading your loading equipment. Loading for Accuracy with Rifle is COMPLETELY different than loading for Hand Gun. You'll see what I mean soon enough. Good luck.. it was a nice choice.

Trout My question was about what kind of experience (if any) people had with electronic navigation devices in the woods. It was not about whether a GPS unit is a good substitute for field skills. YOU assumed that I was trying to use it as a replacement for basic field skills. Frankly - I agree with you 100%!!!!!!! A GPS can crap out and if you are completely reliant on it, you're screwed. But that is not what the thread was about!!! I asked this same question on another board and got legitimate replies. Think about it. You immediately jumped in with your admonishment. Not addressing the question, assuming, etc.. Personally, I have pretty good (in my opinion) field navigation skills. But then again - what does it matter - this is the internet - I can say what I want right? Opening the other thread was a unintentional because the New Post and Post Reply buttons are right next to each other. SO FWIW I apologize for that. I meant to hit the post reply button but hit the New Post button instead.

OK let's settle this right here and now. The thread is about peoples experience with electronic navigation aids. If you want I'll start a different thread about peoples experience and reliance on natural navigation vs. electronic navigation, and you hero's can throw all the comments you want about people who you assume (but of course know nothing about) can't navigate naturally. If you have anything informative to say about the subject, it would be appreciated. There might be other people here who are actually trying to educate themselves and would find constructive information useful.

So I guess every soldier on the modern battlefield shouldn't be there either.

So I guess every soldier on the modern battlefield shouldn't be there either.

Hi All - Is anyone using a hand held GPS unit in the woods? Which ones do you like? I'm looking at the iFinder Hunt C. Anyone have any experience with this one?

And what happens next month when the laws change again??? Another book signing tour?

Thanks for the replies so far.. Yeah... I'm kinda on a tight budget this year and I don't have a slug barrel for my gun. That's why the buckshot.

What brand of 00 Buck do you deer hunters out there prefer? I have a Mossberg 835 and am planning to use the 3" shells. I'm thinking I want something with a buffer and will use a full choke.