Freedom-First

NJChiroDoc - We were out on the Algol today. Yes - the seafood that you catch and eat fresh tastes much better. Lobster for sure but especially Scallops and Mussels. I routinely Shuck and eat live scallops as soon as I bring them up (from diving) and they taste sweet and tender. The mussels we pick off the wrecks taste totally different from the ones you buy. Again, very sweet and tender. There's nothing like diving for seafood!

I understand your position Dirty but as you know, many laws are written to be interpretative. In NJ it's confiscate first, interpret in court later. It's a risk at best. It's only my personal opinion but why take the chance at loosing everything.

Hey Dirty - I'm not trying to argue with anyone just provide information so people can make an informed decision. You want to carry a loaded magazine... by all means... go for it. But what I am saying is that if you live in the state of NJ, then you know that the laws relating to firearms and weapons are contradictory, and written so as to be ambiguous. As I offered above, the cops don't care. Their attitude is to cover their own ass, even if that means arresting you and confiscating your (whatever), and leaving YOU to argue about it in court instead of on a message board. That's the problem. Just pull up to the next cop you see and ask him the question and see what he says. Or ask any gun shop owner.

Thanks, but I've seen that site in my extensive google search. I'm not looking for a map of how to get there but a map of the entire park and where the boundaries are, like the one you can find for Black River http://www.state.nj.us/dep/fgw/pdf/wmam ... _river.pdf

Cherry Ridge & Shongum How about you maksim?

Sorry guys.. it was a SANFU. I hit the new post button i/o the reply button. Had to delete the post otherwise you would have been even MORE confused. :? Oh.. the Avatar is obviously a pic of a friend of mine in ARIZONA !!

Here is another excerp from Title 13 - http://www.state.nj.us/njsp/info/pdf/fi ... 13ch54.pdf "Weapon" means anything readily capable of lethal use or of inflicting serious bodily injury. The term includes, but is not limited to, all: 1. Firearms, even though not loaded or lacking a clip or other component to render them immediately operable; 2. Components which can be readily assembled into a weapon; A loaded magazine could definitely be classified as either one of these conditions or both.

I remember reading somewhere that a loaded magazine is the same as a loaded gun in NJ. I will try to find it again. I agree with the "why chance it" attitude. You have to remember that NJ gun laws are written such that if there is any ambiguity in the law (which there intentionally is), you are guilty until proven innocent. The attitude of the corrupt lawmakers in the wonderful state is to let you (the little law abiding citizen) fight in court for your rights. It's the NJ arrogant form of intimidation.

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Can anyone direct me to a map of Hacklebarny SP?

The funniest part was hearing the guy in the background heaving.. :mrgreen:

I've been a shooter for quite some time and I'm determined to finally get out there and do some hunting this year. I've been studying the digest and reading the NJ Fish and Wildlife website., but I still have a bunch of newbie questions. I'd just like to confirm a few things so they're clear in my mind. I'm thinking about hunting deer w/ Shotgun in zones 8, 9, 13. I know that Black River WMA is huntable but what about Hackelbarny State Park? Do you need anything special to hunt either of these sites or is a standard license enough?

As long as the gangbangers shoot each other, I don't think you'll hear much complaining. It's when they start shooting US that it becomes a problem