Shane45

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Just a little input on IOR. No experience on their red dots but on their scopes....the glass that they get from Schott is very good. But I am not a fan of the internals or build quality. I dont care for brands that you have to intimately know which versions were crap and which ones were ok.....

Get a supervisor and tell them you are going to make a bpu complaint for the lack of service, sometimes this works as their penalties can be stiff. However, these days, I dont think VZ cares at all. My VZ bill was tracking around 34k a month. I could not get service from them, period. I have it straight out of high up scources at VZ that if you arent a customer tracking in the mill a year territory, they have made a concious decision to ignore you! I kicked VZ out the door and replaced them country wide.

I for one was for it. The more you drank, the better you tossed horse shoe's

My bug out bike . No bags, no gear. No need when the only thing that can catch me is another bike that cant carry anything either hehe

I LOVE THE SHOW!!!!!!

My MS2 is......ok. The horkin fiber chunk clip on one end makes it a no go on some of my rifles. Im going to give this sling a try. http://militarytimes.com/blogs/gearscout/2010/11/29/huskey-amentum-slider-sling/ I havent found a single point sling to be very usefull. For those choking themselves when transitioning, if your stock allows, clip it to the right side of the stock. That way when you transition, it gives you the needed slack.

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Must be contagious! I came home to a 92 degree house last night!!!!

Thanks for the info brother.

FTI, are we talking about concern or reality? Does the posetion of a firearm have some sort of direct connection to the cerebral cortex to somehow influence a law abiding citizen to turn into a crazed gunman? Frankly, if I was LE and had a side show loon to deal with, Id rather have the heads up that they are carrying! Furthermore, do we have a chicken or the egg situation here? Lets theorise a moment. IF LE never reacted to people open carrying, would anyone be trying to push the issue? I suspect that bad reactions are what has driven some individuals to press it the way they are. That is not to say there isnt some people out there that I wish didnt represent my interests but by the same token, I can tell you these two eyes have seen LE do some totally off the chart stuff too. Which gets into the entire higher standard debate which I dont want to get into. But back to my main point, the law is going to make NO difference if a criminal is going to open up on you. In fact I would think, your more likely to not see it coming from someone with those intentions because they are going to ambush you.

Well, I would be willing to bet that if you made a stop in the manner you describe that turned into something else, and you had no violation for making the stop or lookup(and were honest about that fact), your methodology would come into question putting your post stop evidence at risk. Cases lost on the lack of pre determined randomness and methodology is exacly why those policies where changed many years ago for DUI checks for example. It HAS to be applied evenly to the population. You can not legally single people out without cause. I bet that even applies to tag checks. Most cases its a ticket, bud find a trunk hooker and if you are absolutly honest on the stand, you may very well have a problem.

FTI, my thoughts would be this, if the person standing there with a weapon is a crazed gunmen, what difference would the law make? They are going to do whatever they are going to do no matter what. To add to that I think we can always find an exception case to just about every scenario. For this specific case it certainly raises the question as to why she was taping? Is there a history of police "issues" in that area? Of course the counter example would be the incident where the officer was down, shot by the BG and a carry permit holder came to the officers aid and in fact shot the BG, likely saving the officer.

Not a lawyer, not a cop, but fairly familier with law an procedure. If im not mistaken random stops BY LAW have to be exactly that. It has to be applied evenly. So that is to say if you are having a dui check, you need to either check every car coming through, or every 3rd car etc etc. You can not simply pick out those you wish to check. So I would imagine this goes for random plate check as well. Without PC to trigger a lookup, your checks would need to be pre determined at x random interval. So in the case of open carry, I dont think you can legally single them out. You would have to in fact enact a publicly random pre determined check. Other wise you would be harrassing an individual.

Wolfy, no means NO brother

I think some clarification is in order. In my opinion Laws do prevent crime. With that being said, the type of crimes we are talking about are generally comitted by the more hard core criminal. And in this context I think its true that they give very little consideration for the law and are generally not affected in the decision making process much by their existance. And if you dig deeper you will find that some laws are actually constructed around that fact. For example you will generally find the death penalty specifically avoided for rape. Why? The answer is that lawmakers didnt want to provide motivation for the rapist to snuff the rapee!

Oh boy, before this gets off on the situational awareness tangent, I think the point is its better to be able to defend yourself than be legislated into victimhood. So I submit that even the situationally unaware should have the ability to defend themselves. Wolfy I cant really follow your logic here. Equal blame? To me thats like saying Im equally quilty of an accident going through a green light and getting hit by a drunk driver running the red because I didnt look both ways before ccrossing the green. You cant place equal blame on someone unless they volunteer to be the victim.

I admit, short on time I didnt get to detail read this thread so Im not sure it was brought up already BUT one thing that really bothers me. This is the second time recently I have seen a post incident abuse of power when the Govt entity gets publicly embaressed for their actions and then decide to prosecute. To me this is a danger. This is an abuse of power and position used to effect retribution on an individual. The other case was a sport bike rider. He went up on one and an off duty decided to go commando on him blocking him in traffic, approaching without identifying himself and drawing his weapon. All caught on the bike cam. Bike guy payed his ticket etc etc all done. posted the incident on youtube complaining about excessive force. BAM wacked out trumped up prosection after the fact. To me this shows the "mind" of the agencies envolved here that are willing to inflict punsihment on those that may expose wrong doing. This is the kind of mind that causes rift to expand between LE and its citizensthe furthering the us/them mentality. Its my opinion that this is part of the fundamental problem. I talk with a LOT of LE. An interesting contrast. I shoot with a lot of long time LE who seem to be on the same side of the fence as us despite what the "brass and politiciens" spoon feed them. Contrast that with new LE and its a very different mind set. About 2 weeks ago I was chatting with a new officer, 6 months on the job. He was wearing a shirt that said "a citizenry that would turn on its police doesnt deserver their protection" or some such thing. I cant remember exactly. So it was no suprise that when I was introduced as a shooter, the young lad belted out only police should have guns, there is no reason for anyone else too. So after swallowing all the blood in my mouth from biting my tongue near off, I was actually able to pull him aside and have a long chat with him. MUCH to his credit he gave a great deal of consideration to the logical arguments I presented him with. And I "THINK" that I may have swayed him considerably or at least opened his eyes to valid considerations from the other side of the fence. He actually asked for my email if he had more questions on our discussion. But this certainly shows the indoc that can take place and the mindset that follows. Its a real danger that officers can be led down this path unabated. I can absolutely bet a large sum that prior to my convo with this officer, an encounter with a gun owner would be significantly different pre and post conversation. Simply by the ream of gun law myths I dispelled during our conversation alone!

Part of the problem is simply that some minds cant come to terms with the fact that there are people out there that need killing.....

How much barrel is there from the muzzle to the start of the flutes?

My speculation is simply that if everyone did it, it would become the norm that it should be. If anyone has the stones to stand up and go first, I tip my hat to them!

Vlad, your right and its how I found out I do. Way back in the day I bought an M2 and it was a shotgun pattern. I was chatting with an optical engineer complaining I got a bum aimpoint and he told me to rotate the aimpoint and see if the shotgun pattern turned with the optic, if it did, the optic was bad, if it didnt..... go to the eye dr. Sooooo after the eye dr. gave me my new peepers it was a dot But the Eo is still grainy even with my glasses.

My experience has been the same as Vlad's. Also, the ret of an Eo is very grainy to me.

If I had to make a guess on that, it would be that in a fire, either way its going to go, so better something that gives easier rather than creating a really big hand grenade.

Brother its pure speculation on my part but my theory is that the rifles would be configured at the depot level for final destination and that only teir one groups would actually be given the kits in full form so that they can outfit per mission reqs. The reason I think this is because I did ask that very same question and the answer I recieved was that many spec ops groups are deployed far and long and indeed need the capapbility to reconfigure in the field to execute multiple missions with varying operational requirements etc etc . Like you I see this as potentially ugly in terms of logistics. And this is where I think an argument can be successfully made for a more intermediate round like 6.8 or 6.5g..... and this in fact may be a tie in. Again pure speculation on my part but if the wonder caliber does come along, the recievers are already capable so it would be easy to retrofit to said wondercaliber across the board.