Shane45

"does anyone seriously beleive that in a life and death situation where someone legitimately has to use force to defend themselves an their home, that they would actually be charged" Yes I do! LI, NJ, not much diff. This was the case that came to mind. http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2010/09/07/long-island-man-arrested-for-defending-home-with-ak-47/

This topic does bring up the question. All these so called good intentions of these buy back programs. Id love to know if anyone ever got pinchd on their way to one of these. Wheres the protection from prosecution for a "good deed"?????

I guess Im to lazy to come up with contrived excuses I just buy it cuz I want it lol. About the best excuse I can offer is they are my insurance policy I get to play with.

If someone is teotwawki inclined, then they have likely converted a ton already in advance im thinking.

I know that many have successfully run bad levers...but I also know many that have had issues. IIRC GRT Tactical wont even stock or install them anymore. I never have used one because I just couldnt wrap my brain around it as a bolt on so i do not speak from experience on it. I do recall also reading that it was not really designed for slide lock reloads either, only type 3 malfs. So in my opinion, if its a have to have, then a lower designed as much may be te way to go. If its not for your ultimate apocolypse gun/competition gun/training class gun where a complication could be costly, then indeed the bad may be the way to go.

I would say that the state police is NOT a reliable scource for legal advice. I have personally recieved incorrect advice from the state police on previous occasions calling in directly. Also IIRC the state AG's office has admonished the state police before stating that they are not qualified to give legal advice. I would say that Nappen is correct. Now if you want to hang your hat on what this gun hating state's court system may afford you in terms of consideration...good luck with that. I think it is probably also worthy of consideration the strength it may give a civil case against you. I would also add that I am sure we would ALL advise our significant others, do what you have to to save yourself and we will deal with the fallout later. I think the real point is to point out the rediculasness of the letter of the law in NJ.

Welp, she came home today. Its a DTA SRS with 308 and 338LM conversions. The scope now on her (not the one in the pic) is a Hensoldt 4-16X56 Mil/Mil FFP scope. The trigger on this one seems to be better than my first DTA. Ill now better once I get some range time.

RIGHT! But I guess NYC/NJ doesnt have enough hardcore criminals so we need to make a few more....

I like the 50 and 458 but if I were going to get an oddball caliber, it would be the 300black because this round is/will recieve a TON of support. Ammo is already 1/3 the price of 50/458 or even 6.8 for that matter. However I do agree with raz that I would probably need to live in a different state to really want to get one.

"Who gives a blue damn WHAT it is..if it has a defaced serial number it could cost him ALL his guns." I agree! Its almost like saying hey I found a k of coke and I was going to turn it in but, its worth like $300,000 so I wanna keep it LOL

If it were me I would choose the fastest path to being a law abiding citizen again. So in order that would be: Band Saw or Torch. Unfortunatly I have some experience coming across illicit weapons and involving LE. From those experiences I would only choose this route if I didnt have a band saw or torch......

Well, I am sure you understand the meaning of the word ambi? Thats great for you that a non ambi lower works for you lefty in that discipline but not everyone does the static shooting you do. Not everyone wants AMBI controls because they are south paws. Lots of people want ambi contols because they actually transition to weak side shooting OR they like how the AMBI bolt release speeds up their slide lock reloads when shooting around a strong side barricade......

THERE YOU GO! Paul to the rescue!

Im sorry but I disagree with njJoniGuy. You can not turn a reguler lower into an ambi lower as he described......

Seekins is GTG!

Not to many around. I think you rlikely going to have to order one in. Mine comes only as a complete rifle from KAC I believe.

Its a hard situation to define. I agree with SpecialK that there is a perception issue here. Consider if you live in free America your whole life, never encumbered by an out of control local government that restricts your rights even for the surrounding states. Now your visiting a place that has the lore of being dangerouse. I think there is a natural response to want to maintain your safety. I think it could be truly a very alien concept for them to think there might be a restriction on your rights because you crossed an imaginary line in the sand.....

I suppose my positions are formed by those that if they got called, its already an issue and is already sideways. A worst case scenario if you will. And thats what I plan around I guess. Good to know there are a lot of "good guys" on the blue line too. Cant wait to see the 7.62X35!!!

Do tell!

Nice grab. I was eyeballing that rifle. But I have been spending like a drunken sailer lately and really need to dial it back!!!!!

Ron, it sounds like a matter of timing to me. If he were setting out for a Wilson to begin with, that would make more sense. But if he already owned the SA, then the additional cost was likely considerably less to customise what he had vs buying a Wilson.

I agree, I suspect its here to stay. But the biggest reason, in my opinion, is that there is a STRONG push for it in Spec Ops. The attraction for something that brings the heat, suppressed, in essentially the same size as an MP5 is being very well recieved.

Wheres the diff? http://www.saami.org/PubResources/CC_Drawings/Rifle/300%20AAC%20Blackout.pdf http://www.saami.org/PubResources/CC_Drawings/Rifle/221%20Remington%20Fireball.pdf http://www.saami.org/PubResources/CC_Drawings/Rifle/223%20Remington.pdf

The lack of any clarity or acceptable methods is my suporting evidence that an all out ban was (and possibly still is) the goal. There were never supossed to be "exceptions"

Vlad, I guess I just dont trust this state to come away with a logical position on anything firearms related. I have no trust and therefore will do all I can to stay out of their cross hairs until I get parolled to free America....