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I had worked with a guy that claimed he was deployed with the woman when the picture was taken. While I can not be fully sure since I no longer work with the guy to reconfirm it (this was like 5 years ago) I can say that at the very least that is not on the flight line. While it's not impossible that they may have had built up bombs on dunage on the flight line (I have never seen it, nor can I think of a good reason why they would be), the fact that in the background there is at least 8 pallets of mk 82's not built up proves it was not taken on the flight line, since all non built up munitions would be stored in the bomb dump.

Trust me for Ammo ( Her MOS in the picture), chicks that look that good are still rare. Luckly those numbers are on the rise back on topic

We still seem to be missing some information on this case so I refuse to jump either way. I just wanted to point out how often when there is a story about some killing the colprits family says somthing along the lines of "My child was such a good kid. I can't believe they would do such a thing." Somtimes family members are not the greatest on picking up on potential trouble because they don't want to believe, so they subconsciously overlook the signs. Friends/ coworkers may very well be in better position to spot a personality change. Like I said we still need more information before I make a judgement call, I am just pointing out you should not jump to conclusions either just yet.

The amendment, the bill it's self, or both?

Here are two zombie related things some of you may be interested in First Cockneys vs Zombies http://youtu.be/nz98mW5DVqA Reminds me of Shawn of the Dead though I admit it’s really only because it’s a comedy about zombies set in London. In any case it looks like it will be hilarious. The British dialect alone easily doubles the comedy factor. There is one major negative though, It does not have a US release date as of yet. The second The Last of US It’s a game about two people with a Father/Daughter relationship trying to survive in a post apocalyptic world filled with zombies and gangs. Now from what I understand they are supposed to be emphasis on narrative here. The story has potential and I hope they pull it off but of course people were expecting good narrative from Dead Island too, but it turned out to really just be your standard zombie game. The downside to this one is I believe it is only coming out for the PS3 unfortunately. also a bit of a gameplay demo/ interview

I have to ask what is going on in this picture? I am guessing it is a photo op for some WWII pin up style pictures.

From what I understand, this does not really sound like a threat. First it has to pass to get added to the cyber security bill than that bill has to get passed. Most republicans do not want this amendment passed so it chances are close to zero to begin with. On top of that it is getting added to a bill that most democrats do not want to pass, which at least in this form the 10 rnd mag limit is not really a threat.

The choice between OC and CC basically comes down your reasoning. It's just that OC is looked at slightly differently than you do. As you mentioned when you OC You either deter crime or become a target. Now ask yourself what types of crime are you must likely to run into. For most people the answer is going to be muggings, assaults, or being at a place that is getting robbed as a distant 3rd. Now 9 out of 10 criminals if not higher that commit muggings and assault crimes will naturally not want to pick a target they see is armed. So if you are walking down a street and a would be mugger is coming towards, him seeing you armed means he is very likely to just keep walking and not even attempt any thing. For you that is the safest possible outcome, and considering you probably are not running into would be criminals that often to begin the odds of you never being attacked are great. Same thing applies to robberies though the odds are probably only 6 out of 10 of going through with the robbery while you are in there. Which considering the odds of you being someplace while it gets robbed are pretty low to begin with, you again greatly increase your odd of never being in such a position. On the other hand if you CC a criminal is not going to have any reason not to chose you. So if a criminal is thinking about choosing you as his target he probably will attack you. Now while you are better off than not being armed you are still already in a dangerous situation and the criminal has the initiative advantage. Your advantage of surprise may not give you a big enough edge to be able to turn the tables on him. Either way the situation is way more dangerous than having the situation not happening at all. Now on the other hand CC gives you a lot of advantage for those rarer situations. CC is is jack of all trades master of none of carrying a firearm. It gives an advantage in most situations OC is a master of some. It gives you a Great advantage in some situations (the ones you are most likely to find yourself in) while putting you at a disadvantage in others. [[A person is holding up a pointer to a screen with an image of the World Trade Center towers mid-disaster.]] Person: Based on my analysis, I believe the government faked the plane crash and demolished the WTC north tower with explosives. Person: The south tower, in a simultaneous but unrelated plot, was brought down by actual terrorists. The 9 11 truthers responded poorly to my compromise theory. {{Title text: I believe the truth always lies halfway between the most extreme claims.}} I kind of just answered they why from the advantage/disadvantage point of view, but what’s asked here is a bit different though. I think your views on how uncomfortable the general public is with seeing non-uniformed individuals OC'ing has been distorted by living in NJ. I believe that most of the general public has no real problem with it when they see it. That’s because either A) they do not have a problem with the general idea of people OC'ing or B) they just assume that the person is an off-duty/undercover/what ever law enforcement officer. Either way the sight of people being armed ends up just not really bothering people. If you watch news interviews with OC'ers especially the local ones for other places, they all almost always mention how for the most part the general public does not even notice. OC'ing can even help pro 2nd amendment groups. One thing that greatly helps anti gun causes is the ability to make the general public think that gun owners are a very small minority composed of nut cases. Anti gun groups want gun owners to stay in the closet as it where, because it make it easier to convince the public of just that. And of course more gun owners feel the general population is against them the less they want to talk about it in the open for fear of being labeled a crazy. Just looking at these forums you can find plenty of stories of someone starting a new job or something and start talking to the other employees about guns and find out 4,5, maybe more people that enjoy shooting but none of them ever knew that there were also other coworkers also enjoyed shooting because they were to afraid to talk about it in public. By OC'ing you start people talking about guns. You may have one neighbor say to another "Those gun owners sure are crazy." to which the other guy says "You know that I am a gun owner" And because of that a person now changes his opinion on gun owners to a more positive stance.

The whole whole 9/11 thing going on in this thread made me think of this comic Unless you have actual evidence that contradict the official story, which I know you don't, you are just being an idiot. Oh and if you have not figured it out, that video posted about the two officer's "contradicting" the official report; they are not contradicting the official report they are confirming it. What the interviewer says happened according to the official report, is not what the official report actually says. Even the police that are interviewed mentioned that they have never heard of any official report saying what the person doing the interview said it does.

I don't think he means that in a "this is how we plan on getting NJ to be a right to carry state" but rather "If we were ever to become a right to carry state, it will be becuase the Supreme Court ruled CCW is a right."

Yea probably pointless. On the other hand maybe everyone should call to urge to vote against it. The population of NJ has always generally gone along with whatever gun control is being proposed, so anti gun laws are considered a safe bet. If these very anti gun senators start getting inundated with opposition to this bill in a state that this use to be considered a safe bet, they may propose such bills less often. At least for this state I would call that a win, granted a very minor one. The less gun control bills proposed, the less possible gun control laws can be passed. While it is a long shot, it's not like it costs any more than a couple of minuets of time at most, and it could only have possible benefits.

I am quoting you just because you were first to have this opinion but all others are free to answer. What is your opinion of CC and why?

Interesting but there is quite a bit wrong. Televisions, where invented prior to WWII. The outbreak of WWII prevented wide scale production, but they were around. Penicillin was discovered in the 1920's, saved it's first life in 1942 and by 1944 was being mass produced for soldiers. Frozen food was first sold in 1929. Dishwashers date back the 1880's, though those were originally powered by hand, Dishwashers where in there modern form by the 1920's and even dried dishes by 1940. Dryers date back to the 30's, and even before if you count the ones that did not use heat. The term "Fast Food" while officially added to the dictionary in 1951 was around prior. The "coke" in coca-cola is because originally coca-cola had cocaine in it (and apparently still uses a cocaine free extract from the coca plant.) In 1947 cars cost on average 1,200 and gas was at least 15 cents a gallon maybe as high as 23 cents. Day care in the US started in the 1850's, the gay rights movement has it origins dating back to the 1700's. That’s just things that existed before 1947; there are also a number of things in there that in reality a person born in 1947 would not remember not existing. I feel like there should be a point to this (which I am guessing is suppose to be look how much the world has changed in the last 65 years, with a little bit of things use to be so much better thrown in for good measure), but it is lost when a lot of the facts are wrong. And If you must know no I did not know all of that off the top of my head, it was the penicillin and television parts that first that struck me as wrong since I was positive soldiers got penicillin shots during WWII. The television part I knew based of my self motivated research project based on the question just how shocked would someone from the 1920's be by technology, if they found themselves in modern times. From there I kind of just started looking stuff up.

That would be an awesome sign to see in a window. Sadly I think it is photoshoped because of the random parts in bold.

Ammo cans cost like $10 from the store. If you were to buy the surplus ones from the government you could probably get a couple of full pallets full of ammo cans for $475. Now granted if those are high end speakers that could cost a couple hundred dollars, but that still got to be like $200 in profit for like two hours of work.

What tomcat? theres an F-15 Eagle, F-18 Hornet, and at the top of the page an A-10 Warthog

This is not a picture but I think it is still pretty cool. I am not sure how many of you know about the possible discovery of the higgs boson. It is the foundation to many of the accepted theories on the nature of the universe, and is often called the "god" particle because it is the foundation of the universe. Well someone using a super computer took all the data points from the discovery and converted them into musical notes. This is what the data for the higgs boson sounds like http://www.geant.net/Media_Centre/Media_Library/Media%20Library/Higgs_Boson_Atlas.mp3

Could it be a .22? I have seen 1911's as .22's so it may be possible someone sells .22 desert eagles. At least I hope that is what it is, because otherwise that picture in no way belongs in this thread as it is not funny at all, in fact it makes me angry. One that is highly irresponsible and looks very bad on gun owners, three that is one person that probably forever be turned off from shooting, and finally and by far the most important, that kid would be left very injured.

LMFAO That is a very Impressive record.

That is an awesome picture. Is that a fire storm?

I thought it was the prostitutes where charging $50 for sex. Two guys decide to have a threesome with one ad when they where done the prositiute wanted $50 from both guys but the secrete service agents only wanted to give her a total $50 since they shared her.

From my experience, the culprit is usually a bored cop (Security Forces). About a year ago I had do go out and inspect about 200,000 rds of 5.56 because the cops lost Lot integrity and they all had to be turned in. About 10% of them looked like that or worst. On top of that there were also things like 33 rds some how jammed in a 30 round mag and a pencil used to replace a round in another

Because you hate Jersey Shore and wish the entire cast would get eating by sharks

ROLFLOL This news just made my day, just goes so well with this famous pro gun quote I have herd before. "Blaming a gun for violence is like blaming the fork for making Rosie O’Donnell fat." I have to hand it to NYC, between this and the "We have the capability to shoot down planes if need be (because the police have some .50 cal rifles)" last year, they are doing a remarkable job of staying consistent with their bad reasoning.

AC neeeds a heavy does of this