JackDaWack

MmMmM....the things i would do for an MP5

I know its a joke... but its still a law. The funny part is...once you have everything submitted, its not like there deterring anyone from the application process on the applicants end since it's already done, you just have to wait for them to process all the paperwork. There just prolonging the inevitable, and pissing everyone off. Best possible way to get it done if there acting retarded is to just keep calling the PD and asking for the LT. after a while he will get tired of the calls, of course i would only do this after the 30days, since by law they have to do it, they can't exactly complain about harassing the PD.

1. Application type: FID + 3Pistol Permits 2. Police Department where you applied: Franklin Lakes 3. Name of the person you dealt with at the PD: Pt. Officer Cook/ Lt. Osenbruck 4. Time taken to issue FID and/or permit. 30days 5. Documents required by the PD (aside from the standard application and the mental health release form). Finger printing Form. 6. Notes - anything pertaining to the application process (unforeseen difficulties, chief of police calling your home, you hiring an attorney, etc.). No complaints, quick and friendly.

It is 30 days by law, you could get a lawyer, or tell the PD that you will getting one. My town issued my permits in 30days, and that was with the Firearms ID card, so there is no reason it shouldn't be the same everywhere else. One of the problems could be the fact that my town has had the updated system for 2 years, while i think this nov. is the deadline for all the PD's to update. The digital system takes 1/2 the time to process applicants. So all these PD's may have waited till the last minute and there converting to the new sytem, which means they have to hold requests until they get updated. I know a friend is having this issue with his PD.

lol, I'm sure anyone would shed a tear over my misfortune. Any way, didn't get the gun i wanted, but still got "a" gun i wanted. Any way the shipping waiting game starts

It's funny that you mentioned the 30days. My PD was very quick as well processing my permits. My friend who is a town over is going on 2 months now still waiting for his...damn shame they can't all just be proficient at there jobs.

They said they can't ship Hi-cap magazines to NJ, even tho directly on there website it say's "New Jersey - No Hi-Cap Mags over 15rds without a FFL. " I asked if my FFL ordered it for me would they ship it, they said NO. I said it was ridiculous, FFL dealers can possess hi-cap mags, there is no reason they shoudn't be able to ship it to my FFL dealer. I give up really, i've been trying to get the gun since the beginning of august. I'll pick it up sometime down the road. I actually got a better deal with the M9A1, almost the same gun but with the pvd coated mags which are probably there most expensive, and the gun was 30 bucks cheaper, it doesnt have changeable sights, but it also doesnt have the new rounded trigger which i wasn't a fan of. So i'll think of it as a trade off, same gun with different options.

Om its time to cry, haha, apparently they can't ship the gun to NJ NO MATTER WHAT! I swear its like :thsmiley_deadhorse:. I changed the order to the M9A1 15rd, no headache anymore i'm done trying to find loopholes in the system.

The new 96A1 has an internal recoil buffer, so it's probably now the best 96 you can buy, although i havnt herd any feedback on the pistol yet. Either way it's 9mm for me, i already bought the ammo so i wouldnt change my mind hahah.

The 92A1 9mm has been ordered! Chyea Baby! Thanks for the help guys. I'm surprised that all the shops i went to, not one suggested to get the gun with out mags. I got it shipped from Budsgunshop, for $636, if i had ordered it Saturday, it would have been $600 but what ya gonna do, i tried to call them to see if they would extended the discount(which was only for 1 day), but to no avail. Any way, cant wait! pics to come when she arrives and i'll have to come out to some ranges to meet some of you guys on here.

Not sure yet, probably blue steel 15rd mags. If i can find the PVD matte mags at a good price i may get those.

Ordering the gun tomorrow, My FFL will remove the mags.

Actually that's a great idea. I could give my friend the money to order the gun (FFL dealer), he can place the order, then "give" it to me with out mags, as far as doing the favor he can keep the mags and do what he wants with them, although i have a feeling he would just use them since he can. Every one i talk to in state tells me they cant get it.

The thing is, the prices are good. I mean i could get the Inox for the same price i would find the 92A1 on other sites. Hmm... I may do that. M9a1 or Inox seems to be the options now. And the guy sounded like it was the distributor that wouldn't allow them to remove the mags.

Beats me, i was profound to hear they didn't want 3 free mags.

Bad news.... Apparently no one can remove the mags from the gun.. I'm confused now. I may get the M9A1.

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yeah i'm gonna go with the 9mm for sure. At some point ill get a bigger caliber, but probably not a 40S&W. Next on my list is a 22 or 22LR, and then probably a 45 for sH*ts and giggles. I want to get the best all around caliber for my first, and then go up or down depending on my needs, if i'm really going out to the range a lot probably a 22/22lr, if not i may just save up for a 1911. What really has my attention are he M&P-15's, if i really go out to the range ill probably pick up the 22lr and learn the ropes with AR's, and then down the road sell it and put the money toward a colt AR or if the M&P 5.56 is still doing well maybe that one the price looks to good to be true. If you haven't realized yet i'm really big on US military/LEO issued weapons.

It was the one in ramsey. they had like 4 people behind the counter at the gun dept. and all looked at me like i shouldn't be there lol. I do look young, but hey when ur in sales, anyone is a potential customer. I usually expect to be greeted and help when im staring into the glass cases. I'm kinda mixed about them, while they weren't rude or anything of that nature, i guess i just expected a little bit better service. We have a few shops in the area and you would think they would want you to come back . Now when i went to meltzer, they were pulling every gun out of the case for me to look at. Giving specs and just throwing numbers around, i like that shop alot. Weird enough tho, all there guns were priced great, but they quoted the 92a1 at $699 , which was the highest i found.

Its a father son Business, one of my friends is very close with the son.

Definitely! Im only 25mins from there.

He will do the transfer for free and 20 for the NCIS check!

Ok guys, I think i know what im going to do, find the gun online at the cheapest price, tell them to keep the mags. I found it on budsgunshop for $611, plus 20 for transfer, plus 40 for mags. That's still cheaper then ramsey not including sales tax. And ill cancel the order with ramsey and buy ammo with the deposit. Oh yeah and have the gun shipped to my friend over at B&R firearms in fairfield. Thanks for the help, i really appreciate it.

Yup, they accept any 92 mag, but they cost over 30 bucks a pop, that's over 90 bucks in mags i would be throwing away. they want $680 for the gun, which is kinda reasonable. They wouldn't discount the gun sold with out the 17rds, so i would be spending upwards of $800 for the gun + mags. I might as well buy the inox at that point. Im not trying to be picky in any way, but im also not looking to just throw money away. I contacted Budsgunshop and they wouldn't even swap out the mags, they said there distributor has to ship it with hi-cap mags since the model number is for hi-cap mags, didn't make any sense to me, just take em out! i would have settled for 2-10rd mags in place of the 3-17rd mags, which are already more money and i would be getting 2 instead of 3. I have a friend who is a FFL dealer in fairfeid who can help me out with literally anything, but when it comes to this gun its like pulling teeth. Actually i just thought maybe he would want the 17rnd mags since he can legally use them.

I went with ramsey out door because they actually had the new 92a1 on order already, that was really the only reason. As a store i didn't like them very much, and they treated me like a child when i went in there. I had to push them just to help me, very bad sales people there, i almost just walked out. Every where else i went didnt even know what gun i was talking about since it's new and ramsey told me they had it on order, so i went with them because they will def. get the gun when beretta ships, opposed to other dealers who may or may not get it if there at the end of the order list. I only put a 100 down, and i can just get ammo if i choose to cancel the order. They didn't have a great price, but they also quoted me lower then another place i went to in garfield. The main reason i ordered like i said is because they are big on beretta and are getting the new guns. I'm probably gonna stick with the 9mm but i may get the 92f2, they also had a inox for sale but it was $760. Im a beretta nut, and when i saw the new 92a1 i kinda got hard for it. I like the fact i can change out the sight and it has an accessory rail, plus its a m9a1 varient. I may pick up the m9a1 if i can find that one. I was actually directed here from beretta's forum by a memeber. I have been to a couple shops in the area and so far ramsey out door has been the worst. I kinda put the deposit down on impulse, it seemed like the best bet at the time, but now i found out i have to wait 2 months and im regretting making the decision.