JackDaWack

It's not that there is no consistency with in the law, it's that people don't bother to read them. Every time i have had to speak with a prosecutor i always get the " i can't give legal advice" statement.

I don't know why people go to the cops and prosecutors for info,i thought they weren't allowed to give out legal advice. I'm mean sure you would think they would know the answers but 85% of the time your talking to wrong person, and they just tell you something to get you off there back. Now back to the issue, i believe the firearms are still illegal if you do not have COE forms for them. I'm really not sure if a letter signed with the firearms info is acceptable. Like stated before, you cannot obtain a firearm in nj without an FPID, COE for personal sales of rifles, P2P for handguns, unless they are willed/inherited. The law is pretty clear on that and the necessary forms to complete the transfers.

You wouldn't even have to have it shipped to them, you can just order it online to your house, the features are only illegal when paired with a lower, since the upper isn't considered the firearm, There are tons of good uppers out there, nj legal and not, but it only takes about 80 bucks to make a non legal upper legal. Shave the bayo lug, and attach the muzzle break.

The simple answer is NO, there seems to be no consistency in anything when it comes to guns and PD's.

Hell you can apply for 20 permits, but your just wasting money, or rather just handing over 2 extra dollars per permit over 6. Of those 10 permits you can only use 6, when they come in you can automatically rip up 4 of them. And make sure you get the extension on 3 of them, and make sure the extension process in your town doent take long either as you may waste another permit depending on timing.

If you guys want to do a group buy i'm in. Put me down for 2 15rd 5.56 mags. What style/color are options?

My favorite gun in the WHOLE WIDE WORLD! I picked up a 92fs M9A1, but i can and will say an 92fs INOX is in my near future the stainless steel looks soo sexy, and you can accessorize a nice set of grips on there to make it look even better. If your looking for stainless steel, check out the INOX version, its on avg 100 bucks more, but damn worth it. And your right, the design is what some many consider to be a relic, but hey why change a good thing? The overall design may be the same, but they have been updated over the years.

Well i ordered my RRA LAR-15 last friday! WOOT! I basically found a deal way to hard to pass up. I was going to purchase a Colt, but after i did the math it ended up being about 500 bucks more + mods to make it to my liking. I order from Pete over at Legaltransfers, AR15sales.com really nice guy helped me out tons. I purchased the LAR-15 operator2 elite, and RRA is going to be making it NJ legal for me, which means i will save about 200 bucks on pinning the stock and having the muzzle break attached + 2 10rd mags. Oh yeah did i mention NO SALES TAX. And i got a free Eotech mount/rear sight. I'm having it transferred to Meltzers Sporting goods which is close to me, and the guys there are just so helpful and strait forward it was a no brainier. They even cut me a deal on transfer cost, now that's how you get customers to come back! Any who, pics to come when it comes in.

I paid like 75 bucks for my background check to go to the NJ department of EDU. Talk about a rip off considering i got printed for firearms a week prior and they WOULD NOT send the prints out to both parties, i had to go back on a separate appointment to do so. This was on top of a 10 dollar fee the EDU Dept. wanted just to process the background check. It's a huge rip off. I basically paid them twice for no reason.

From the people i know who have had issues with it taking way to f'ing long to get the permits, it's usually the chief who tells the officers to take there sweet a** time. Some chiefs will only allow or rather only process a certain number of permits per person per year, usually told to do so by the mayor or some other corrupt a$$ mongrel. Its called BS, yes, total and udder BS. Your best bet is to call the state police firearm division, but there only going to do something if you've been waiting 3+ months. There's really no excuse after that. My friend has been waiting 3 months now in N. Haledon, they keep telling him the state has not sent back his background check, which is BS cause his references havent even been sent out yet, and the state is very quick now and days with the digital system. Got my permits one town over in the 30 day period. So, if i can get my permits in 30days, any one can, unless there is something screwy with your application. Since im living proof it can be done in 30 days, it just means the other PD's are doing something they shouldnt be. FYI im buying as many guns as i can before i move out when im done with school.

You could cut the cost on real estate if you opened up shop in a low key area.. The real issue is finding a town that will allow you to open up a range... My buddy owns a hobby shop and mahwah wouldn't let them move there business from Waldwick.

I wonder what the insurance rate is on a range in NJ....

If you take the stock off the rifle you could argue the legality of it, Just take it apart, and see how it was done. Its just a pin going through a hole drilled in the guide rail. As a disclaimer i'm going to say take it off the gun first. Paterson Gunsmithing does it for 45 bucks.

And remember the first rifle you buy, will not be the last...

Under what circumstances did they confiscate his guns? I mean unless he actually did something, a restraining order is hear say... Cant believe a judge signed off on warrants for that ****. Pathetic.

From what i have gathered so far, RRA has better tolerances, and bushmasters QC is hit or miss. I wasn't comparing RRA to any other manufacture but bushy, i am well aware that both are "middle shelf" and that both are good, but RRA's recent contract with the DEA shut out bushmaster, and a couple others. I actually debating picking up a colt since there not that much more $$.

Like said make sure it specifically says Muzzle break, and in no way has the word flash in the description. If its threaded it must be permanently attached.

I dropped my permits off at the station this week to get an extension, i mean i went through all the hassle to get them, might as well hang onto them for as long as possible. They need the Chief to initial the extension date, so make sure he's there when you go in, or else you have to wait, like i am.

After reading up a lot on AR variants, i scratched bushmaster off the list when i found rock river arms, i'm ordering one this week.

I'm probably going to be ordering one of the 3 LAR-15 operator2's that are discounted right now, just wanted to pass on the deal if some one hasnt seen it yet. http://www.rockriverarms.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=461 You would have to pin the stock or change it. I spoke with a dealer and he said he can order it for $949 shipped.

Under state law, what ever form your filling out which refers to previous or present employment is not considered part of the application, nor is a form required from your employer, unless you list it as a reference. If it were me i would have refused to fill out anything that isn't strictly part of the application. In other words, they can't deny you permits if your employer refused to comply, and for the exact reason you stated, they can be biased.

Nah, im floored at the fact its even a bill.

I've had plenty of airsoft guns shipped to me. Dunno why they wouldnt ship it here since its 100% legal with a orange tip.

Wow...... i'll leave it at that.

When you go to your station for an FID, don't mention anything about owning the pistol, not like it would matter, it will just make it go smoother, considering you got that response from them. Although it seems to me that only ~2 officers know the gun laws at PD's, and it's basically the ones that do all the paperwork.