Dan

The 74 5.45 mags I got from Isaac are black plastic/Bakelite, whatever it its. Pretty interesting as they are sorta a hybrid, as the top portion that inserts into the rifle is metal melted/merged into the plastic mag body. Just an FYI...

Do I need to put on my tinfoil hat?

J&G gave me a hard time about the 30 rounder for the M74. I told them to keep it. Small price to pay.... Speaking of my rifle, I'm thinking it should be in to Paul's either today or tomorrow. (crossing fingers)

Wow, excellent! Great styling in a fortress. I also have concerns over the front steel door. The security of the 2ft thick reinforced concrete shutters all around is negated by the front steel door's weakness. The perimeter wall looks great also. Then again, its designed to keep zombies out, and they don't know how to use power equipment, so should be A-OK.

You guys have to try G96 Gun Treatment, a spray on CLP type product which smells great. Also a NJ based company. I primarily use it for a finishing touch after cleaning, and before spot oil/greasing. Spray on, let sit, wipe off. Leaves a nice finish. They also have a CLP synthetic oil that I have not tried yet. I may order the oil soon to try it out since I'm so happy with the Gun Treatment. Apparently the CLP oil does not contain solvents, pretty interesting as the base oil must act as the "cleaner" as well. http://www.g96.com/ What is the difference between G96 Gun Treatment or Gun Oil and G96 Synthetic CLP Gun Oil? Synthetic CLP Gun Oil has been approved by the US Military (MIL-PRF-63460E) whereas Gun Treatment is not an approved product for the US Military.Gun Treatment and Gun Oil are petroleum based. The Synthetic CLP gun oil is synthetic based. The Synthetic CLP Gun Oil is 85% biodegradable and contains no VOC's.Synthetic CLP Gun Oil only comes in a liquid form whereas G96 Gun Treatment is available in either a liquid bottle or an aerosol spray can.Synthetic CLP Gun Oil has slightly better cold weather specifications. Synthetic CLP gun oil is rated at -74F and Gun Treatment is rated at -50F.Synthetic CLP Gun Oil has slightly better corrosion protection and slightly better clean up after firing.Synthetic CLP Gun Oil has Corrosion Protection from Propellant Reaction ProductsBoth have excellent properties for Preservation protection for long and short term.Neither product will evaporate.Neither product will thicken or congeal.

Thanks for the clarification. Lots of old/new info out there makes it confusing. I'll let him know he doesn't need the licensing firm. I think he found one that combines the licensing process "help" with the range 1 year membership. So that may be a good deal for him as he wants to join a range as well. Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the Mini 14 have a "barrel shroud". I also thought the M1 Garand has one as well. I'm confused over what they consider a barrel shroud or not.

I forgot, no compromise. Thanks. One time they get the right guy, doesn't mean the laws are just and non-infringing on our rights. Just like a law that theoretically says a cop can put anyone in jail for 5 years for any reason. 80% of the time they get the right guy, the other 20% just had their rights trampled on. So easy to get sucked in. Sticky situation.. having "regulations" to prevent people with a known history of criminal activity from purchasing guns without infringing on law abiding people's rights. Or not prevent them at all? Just like anyone else, if they decide to use a gun in the commission of a crime, back to jail for them.

Yup, its a huge scam over there. Crazy fees, and even more crazy rules. With the pistol permit, they actually outline that you can only bring it to and from a specific range and your home. Not any range... a specific one , in which you have to be a member. Basically NYC, guns are illegal. They keep up this farce of a licensing/permit/registration system so they can say they don't outright ban guns. As for rifles. He wanted something AR looking tacticool. Not many options when it comes to BA's, esp without detachable mags. I'm just going to recommend to him a pistol and shotgun.

Glad to see them going after the root of the crime... criminals participating in illegal straw purchase activity selling to prohibited people. I'm sure they are working with Virginia LE to make sure the stores followed state and federal laws regarding handgun sales.

The solvent/carrier in CLP formulations act as solvents for their own oils/lubricant bases as well. This is why when the solvent/carrier evaporates, it leaves behind a film/residual base lubricant/protectant. You can use a fresh shot of the CLP to flush away old dirty lubricant/protectant (usually with some physical help of a brush or cloth). After cleaning with CLP, you then wipe on a fresh coating and let it dry again, bringing you back to the lubricant/protective coating. Cleaning = wet , work it, wipe away with clean cloth. Lubricating/protection phase is wet, and let dry. This is how many products work. The "cleaning" action is simply the carrier solvent in action.

I suppose if you remove the pistol grip, and "barrel shroud" aka foregrip, and use 5 round mags... and go through the approval process, would be doable. Pretty much not worth it at this point.

I run 14 in my MidwestPX 15/20s. Pushing it to 15 is a recipe for a FTL.

Yea, isn't that something. Originally the copper was a beryllium/tin alloy, don't want to think about how much that would have cost. Perhaps next year we'll see them using silver in place of copper being our govt has unlimited funds.

Saw that, NJ AWB has a similar list, but we have the ruling on the "Evil feature" game. I thought NYC was the same, but apparently not.

Was trying to get him some options for a tacticool carbine length BA with detachable mags.

I hope eventually the M855A1 will be cleared for civilian sales. The Army does not classify it as "Armor Piercing". Link

As a NJ resident, the only time you can receive a handgun without a purchase permit is if you inherited it. Any other situation you need to get your FID card and a Pistol Permit for each handgun you are receiving Edit: out of state pistol acquisitions.. the pistol must be transfered from an FFL in the state of purchase, to an FFL at the destination state where it is to be picked up by the person acquiring it according to all state laws at the destination state. This is Federal law regarding pistol transfers.

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I'm having trouble seeing how the wedge can pop out and cause havoc. Pictures are better than words. Also, imagine when the upper block is lowered down and the pin is pushed through it.

Grats on the rifle. +1 on M1A's. I also love my Scout.

Guys at ar15.com say its a no go. Basically any SA rifle is banned. Not only that, they have a 5 round cap limit for ANY action type rifle. Even if you own 5 round magazines for the rifle, you have to somehow go through an approval process to prove you have the mags. Apparently they look up the gun on the internet to see what mag it comes with in stock form to base their decisions. One guy said there is only one gun shop in NYC that will even touch the NYPD approval process, and they charge $100 for that service. At this rate, the Ruger Gunsight looks doable with 5 round mags, but he would have to jump through hoops to get this approval BS. We thought the PRNJ was bad, apparently the PRNYC is 100x worse! I can't see how any of these laws would pass a constitutionality review.

Good idea Bob. I sometimes forget there is a gun community outside of NJGF, since 9 out of 10 times our forum has the answers.

The barrel shroud being listed has be scratching my head. Like in the case of a M1 carbine, there is a front top foregrip, but it only covers half the barrel. I wonder if to be considered a "barrel shroud" it would have to cover the entire length of the barrel. My googling hasn't turned up anything, if there are people with legal SA's in NYC, they are probably keeping quiet to stay low. Add to that the #7 rule by decree, I may just recommend to him that he get a BA like the Gunsight.

So I took my friend who lives in Brooklyn shooting for his first time Friday. Both pistol and rifle. He shot my Taurus 92 9mm, Sig sp2340 .357sig, and my new AR. He did phenomenal with all 3 guns. He's now sold and wants to at least start with getting a pistol. He's pursuing those handgun permit agencies in NYC that you hire to walk you through their unconstitutional process. Now for the rifle, he is interesting in getting an AR also, but NYC has it's own AWB that basically prevents you from owning or possessing most any SA rifle in the city limits. Does anyone know of an SA rifle that meets the criteria? I thought of the M1A, but they have it specifically listed as fitting the evil list.. I'm thinking b/c of the "barrel shroud". If not, I may recommend a Ruger Gunsight Scout. I thought NJ was bad until I saw this. Take a look at #7, basically says that the Police Comissioner can simply dictate that a gun is banned based on their subjective opinion of what is "sporting". I'm sorry any law that hinges its authority on what any one person subjectively feels on the subject is just plain oligarchical. It's akin to passing a law that permits a person to rule by decree. NYC AWB (a) Any semiautomatic centerfire or rimfire rifle or semiautomatic shotgun which has one or more of the following features: 1. Folding or telescoping stock or no stock. 2. Pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon. 3. Bayonet mount. 4. Flash Suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor. 5. Barrel Shroud. 6. Grenade launcher. 7. Modifications of such features, or other features determined by rule of the Police Commissioner to be particularly suitable for military and not sporting purposes. In addition, the Police Commissioner may, in such rules, designate specific semiautomatic centerfire or rimfire rifles or semiautomatic shotguns, identified by make, model and/or manufacturer’s name, as within the definition of assault weapon, if the Police Commissioner determines that such weapons are particularly suitable for military and not sporting purposes. (b) Any shotguns with a revolving cylinder magazine. © Any part, or combination of parts, designed or intended to readily convert a rifle or shotgun into an assault weapon.

nice 74's