irishpete

Yes, I get that, I am trying to figure out the particulars, As in what would the alternative upper look like ? Hell, where to even order the alternate parts from and make sure it still fits the rest of the order Irish Pete

Guilty, its my first AR build so I have to start somewhere and work up to a better build hmmm. I hear what you are saying, and it would be preferable to put hands on the socom before buying it but it looks sturdy and fits in with my ideas for the AR. Any here use one ? I now fully intend to get a spikes or PSA lower unless I can find something reasonable local to save shipping/transfer. Its actually 17.5" and 25 ounces, is there something that approaches this from Rainier ( got a link ) Thats a lot of jargon, I am having trouble parsing it. I m looking for a carbine length barrel, I picked this one as its fluted and would save some weight. Is it the 1-9 twist that is a big minus with this barrel ? As for the rest I will have to try and understand what you are suggesting as an alternative as its still unclear to me as a newbie. just a note, 52 oz is 3.5 pounds, not exactly featherlight but not something to double as a weight lifting device. My wife's shotgun seems absurdly heavy weighing in at over 6 lbs but she manages to lug it about for 4 hrs running & gunning without going into palpitations. I am appreciative of all the help you guys provide even if It seems I sometimes am not getting the point. I just have to ask for patience while I find my way Irish Pete

Vlad, I'll address the above first quotes first You appear to be clueless in hand to hand combat with military weapons, there are many strike points with a rifle and the rail is one of them and I train in it regularily. Sometimes a large knowledge in one area does not translate to every other related area .. might be a a foible of yours Also the assumption "a clean line of sight down the gun" is some sort of cosmetic peccadilio of mine is a tad condecending. As opposed to me not wanting clutter up the top of the gun or have snag hazards when i am using the rifle. As for overdone accessories, I followed your CX4 & AR builds in their separate thread and over-blown on tactical doo-dads would be an understatement but each to his own. Now on to where some actual advice was given .. I just need a solid stock that wont crack when banged on something so i am open to anything that fits the bill. I do not need jaggies that will cut me as much as anyone else near the gun. I was unaware and surprised you could mate a rifle length gas system to a carbine length barrel. Something I need more info on but sounds like the way to go. What are the disadvantages fo not having a carbine gas length ? I do not like the gas block sights, and no not because of its stylish look, I do not like it as it seems that its a snag hazard I am pretty sure a large segment feels the same way about their AR, the draw of the platform is it can satisfy a large variety of references/customisations Irish Pete

Hi Caine, Thanks for the info. I will certainly be up for the alternate psa Parts kit & from what I can gather one receiver is much like another so cheaper is good. As for how I came up with this Parts list, well one reason is my background. another may be its where my experience is lacking this may answer some of your Qs Vlad. The 2 pieces that are a must have is the socom stock(pinned) & the monolithic receiver/rail. I am used to treating a rifle as a cold weapon when up close, meaning I will used it to inflict damage at close quarters from striking with it, so a robust stock & 'Heavy rail' facilitate that. As a side effect, heavier rail should absorb recoil ... ? I also want a clean sight line down the top of the Gun - think like an aircraft carrier runway - straight down with out interruption so monolithic it is. As for why carbine length, I expect this to operate at relatively close ranges 25-75 yds, not camped out prone on a sandbag, trying to nail somethhing 300yds away, hence the shorter length though I could be convinced, rifle length is more appropriate.

The Upper : oh and I shoot rifle left handed due to having cross dominance 16 inch fluted chrome barrel : YHM-45-F VLTOR monolithic receiver & rail ext rifle length 17.5" VLTOR Low-Profile-Gas-Block Fail-zero : AR-15-Bolt-Carrier-Group-w-Hammer Badger Ord : Left-Hand-Charging-Handle DPMS : Gas-Tube-Roll-Pin DPMS : Gas-Tube Storm-Single-Point-Sling

Looking to put together a lighter run & gun type AR, however I am not trying for the lightest gun in all creation as I am no weakling and will drag around whatever I end up with. Appreciate any comments or tips First the Lower : Roggio arsenal.-Stripped Lower-Receiver (though if I find something reasonable local I will just grab it) SOCOM M4 stock Timney : AR-15 DROP-IN TRIGGER MODULe DPMS : LOWER RECEIVER PARTS KIT ROCK RIVER ARMS carbine buffer Hogue pistol grip magpul trigger guard

Does not seem like you do the CZ SP-01 holster.... cause I am looking to get a pair...

Got my ammo last week, If you do not know about sending your FOID you can be in for a long wait. Happened to me last year

That is great! I'm sure she felt really great about it Very nice of you to hang around and help her out. I was thinking of trying clay shooting with my Grandpa's Mossberg 195 ka , but a few have told me not to put modern bird or trap through it . Something about it being steel .

Good segment, Anthony .

I have shot this ammo in the past without any problems - gun needs cleaning afterwards but thats the nature of the beast so I am in for 10 boxes

Thanks for the heads up I did know that , but I think in 9mm it should be fine. I'll have a chance to shoot one before getting my own. One of the ladies I know has one. It is between that and the Nano for my subcompact , which now may be another 2 months before I get one. Something else may have caught my eye 3 remaining P2Ps when they arrive will be for a compact , subcompact , a 6 inch revolver. In that order. Then I am done . Won't even apply for more permits. Riiiight????

From irishpete'swife ...Pete , until you fix my laptop remember to sign out ! lol I understood your paragraph , thanks I have a Colt Combat Elite .45ACP with VZ G10 slim grips. I saw a video of myself shooting it and realized I have to really work on that muzzle flip lol Things to work on at the range... The PX 4 has very low recoil and is a nice gun to shoot. I have 3 P2Ps coming soon and one will most likely be for that gun in a subcompact version. Not the next gun , but one of the 3 The M&P .40 and the CZ75 Sp01 tactical for that matter in .40 cal each have even less recoil which surprised me. The CZ is very heavy , all metal. The M&P has a longer barrel ( I got the 5" Pro series) . You'll like that PX 4 .

I don't know about the legality of it in your area , but I can tell you from experience on my dad's farm in Quarryville PA a .22 won't do it. He wound up obsessing aver getting these things ( they made holes in the ground that the horses could break a leg in) . None of the repellent worked , they are way to fat to kill with a .22 . He wound up getting out the shottie ( he went totally Bill Murray over this) but they are fast too and very hard to get within range.They can feel vibrations in the ground up to 100 yards away. If you try to get within range with a shotgun or handgun , they'll know you are there. He then went with a .30-06 and a good scope with him hiding up in the bedroom (with all the kids in the room with him so he knew where we all were) enabled him to pick them off. But more came....and more. Ultimately , he got a bunch of Have A Heart traps from animal control . They would come pick them up as the cages were occupied. We use to have them in my yard..they ate all of our peas . But then the dogs figured out how to ambush them. We have nothing in our yard now except birds. Good luck , they get into your head.

Awww , thank you honey!!! By the way , as you see here , I'm buying another gun.

Wish I knew how to read the scoring system lol I guess U is unclassified?

Shes a handfull on the ground and she fights dirty

Myself and the Wife will be there ....

^ posted by irish pete's wife..wrong computer , sorry

Welll , there was one forum member who was nice enough to let me shoot his 590 at the BH this afternoon , and afterwards he installed my adjustable stock for me that I could not figure out. Thanks so much to him , he was a huge help , and I can wing the course tomorrow thanks to his efforts and time

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Found a bps Riot, anyone ever used or heard of this variation ?

No active safety on the SP-01 just a decocker

Not to burst a bubble but if you believe a 2 day course is the answer, I hope the rude awakening never arrives. I briefly looked at their website and all videos posted are talkey talkey,, none with a demonstration of their super survival techniques. You want to learn guns, go practice with them and do courses related to their effective use You want to learn self defence same applies, do training regularily and attend classes in how to use it effectively..

its 30-30 and a internal mag of 6 so as you say, its impractical