Midwest

Well, the way its going...Michigan is starting to look like a good option . lol

There have been even more pro 2A victories recently throughout the land. I been studying gun laws and developments around the country. We almost had constitutional carry in New Hampshire and Montana but still, at one time these things would have been a pipe dream ...the bills made it far enough to be actually voted on. Montana is almost constitutional carry in areas away from cities and towns. And believe it or not, there is still a glimmer of hope for conceal carry in Illinois. Lets not forget our neighbors to the North....Canada...who against all odds just scrapped their Long Gun Registry. And speaking of other countries, there is an International organization formed to protect gun rights worldwide. "International Association for the Protection of Civilian Arms Rights" Americans are arming themselves like never before. http://www.courant.c...0,5191260.story Americans are arming themselves like never before. Firearms-related businesses say they are hard-pressed to meet demand, which they say is being generated by factors ranging from feelings of insecurity to presidential politics. Oklahoma passes open carry (for those with carry permits). http://www.newson6.c...lahoma-governor Michigan allows silencers. http://www.mlive.com...neral_says.html Michigan might get rid of purchase permit and registration for handguns. http://www.nraila.or...gistration.aspx Michigan to allow tasers. http://michiganradio...sers-be-carried Conceal carry permits double in five years in Michigan.... Of 401,000 active concealed pistol licenses in Michigan, more than half — 202,353 — were issued in the past five years, nearly 20,000 in 2008 alone, according to Michigan State Police data. From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitne...3#ixzz1ubeXaVs1 New Hampshire almost had Constitutional carry. http://www.nashuatel...-shot-down.html Montana almost had constitutional carry, but ... If you are outside a town or city you can constitutional carry http://en.wikipedia...._.28parts_of.29 Illinois closer to passing conceal carry http://www.ilga.gov/...30&SessionID=84 http://www.foxillinois.com/news/local/Bill-sponsor-Illinois-possibly-two-votes-away-from-concealed-carry--150759165.html International Association for the Protection of Civilian Arms Rights http://iapcar.org/?page_id=2 Kentucky Supreme Court Says Campus Gun Ban Does Not Include Parked Cars http://thefiringline...ad.php?t=486631 Kentucky universities can ban weapons on their campuses, but that authority does not extend to the parked cars of students and staff members, the Kentucky Supreme Court ruled today It is going to be difficult for NJ politicians to keep ignoring all of this. There is a huge momentum for self defense in this country and it is gaining strength every day . I would like to see NJ politicians get the hint one day from the politicians in KY. Believe it or not, my Representative , Addia Wuchner has this on her web page. http://addiawuchner.com/?page_id=482 "I am a member of the NRA and a gun-owner. I was co-sponsor of the Kentucky Castle Doctrine legislation. I have an “A” legislative rating with the NRA. I believe that law-abiding citizens have the right to defend themselves and their families."

This is his 'escape hatch' word ....."not expected". So what in essence he is saying that it is 'not expected', but it could happen and he is not aware of it. Not expected or not being aware of something does not make it set in stone that it won't happen. So if he votes for it and it just 'happens' to make domestic gun ownership severely restricted or outlawed altogether....'it wasn't his "fault" '. He was not expecting it. They have a word for that.....Plausible denial ..... Anyone feel warm and fuzzy now?

I can't help but wonder if the anti-gunners are behind this to make our side look bad.

http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/brady-law.html#repair-transfer Q: A firearm is delivered to a licensee by an unlicensed individual for the purpose of repair. Is the return of the repaired firearm subject to the requirements of the Brady law? Would the transfer of a replacement firearm from the licensee to the owner of the damaged firearm be subject to the requirements of the Brady law? Neither the transfer of a repaired firearm nor the transfer of a replacement firearm would be subject to the requirements of the Brady law. Furthermore, the regulations provide that a Form 4473 is not required to cover these transactions. However, the licensee’s permanent acquisition and disposition records should reflect the return of the firearm or the transfer of a replacement firearm. (HOWEVER: In case one is wondering for consignments) What about consignments? Q: Is the redemption of a pawned firearm subject to the Brady law? Yes. Unlike the interim Brady law, the permanent Brady law that went into effect on November 30, 1998, does not contain an exemption for the return of a firearm to the individual from whom it was received. Accordingly, the redemption of a pawned firearm is considered a transfer subject to the permanent Brady law. Q: If an individual repeatedly pawns the same firearm, is the FFL required to do a NICS check each time the firearm is redeemed? Yes. The fact that the transferee has redeemed the firearm before does not excuse the pawnbroker from complying with the Brady law. Q: Can licensed pawnbrokers conduct NICS checks prior to accepting a firearm in pawn? Yes. The law provides that a NICS check may be done, on an optional basis, prior to accepting a firearm in pawn. If the check results in a “denied” response, the licensee is required to notify local law enforcement officials within 48 hours after receipt of the “denied” response. Q: If a pawnbroker conducts an optional NICS check prior to receiving a firearm in pawn, should the owner of the firearm complete a Form 4473 before the pawnbroker contacts NICS? ATF suggests that licensees have the owner complete Section A of the Form 4473, record the results of the NICS check on the form, and retain the form in their records for at least 5 years. Q: What should a licensed pawnbroker do when he or she gets a “denied” response from an optional NICS check conducted prior to the receipt of a firearm in pawn? The licensee is required to notify local law enforcement officials within 48 hours after receipt of the “denied” response. If the licensee has taken possession of the firearm, he or she may not return it to the individual who offered it for pawn. Q: If a licensed pawnbroker conducts a NICS check prior to accepting a firearm in pawn, and gets an “approved” response from NICS, must the pawnbroker conduct another NICS check if the firearm is redeemed from pawn? What if it is redeemed from pawn the same day? The law provides that another NICS check must be done at the time of redemption, regardless of how recently the pre-pawn NICS check was conducted. Even if the firearm is redeemed the same day, a separate NICS check must be conducted at the time of redemption. [27 CFR 478.124-25]

Stun guns now legal in Michigan (effective Aug 9, 2012) after 90 days it was signed into law. (What about trying to have this passed in NJ in the meantime until a shall issue a conceal carry law is signed into law?) http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2012/05/08/new-law-allows-residents-to-carry-stun-guns/ "Gov. Rick Snyder has signed legislation allowing Michigan residents with concealed pistol licenses to carry a Taser as a nonlethal form of self-protection .Specialized training also is required to legally carry a stun gun. Michigan joins 43 other states that allow residents to carry stun guns under certain circumstances. Michigan law had banned the use of stun guns since 1976, with exceptions for police and some other personnel." There is a discussion about this and an exact quote from the law is anyone is interested. http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=658422

"White Castle hamburgers are about the size of the palm of your hand, made of pure USDA-certified beef (Ukranian Socialist Department of Agriculture)." That was pretty funny....We also have White Castle here in Kentucky too.

I kind of recall it was Handgun Control (way back when) telling people to be a good victim and give the criminal what they want in hopes that they leave you alone.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2012/may/8/democrats-withdraw-trayvon-amendment/ "Democrats backed off of their effort Tuesday to offer a "Trayvon amendment" to pressure states to drop their stand-your-ground laws after learning it was likely to be ruled out of order under the evening's rules for debate on the House floor."

"Talk to anyone from New Jersey, and they will either know of, be related to, or aspire to move to either North Carolina or Florida. In fact, it's well known that if you grew up and still live in New Jersey, the chances that you'll be moving to either of these two states at some point in your life are extraordinarily high, whether you believe it or not" That is true, I have friends who live in NC and FL who used to live in New Jersey at one time.

I can see states rebelling against this steaming pile. That is,... if it actually passes, which I doubt it will. The bill is unconstitutional in every way. We will not go the way of the United Kingdom where victims go to jail if they attempt to fight back. The persons responsible for drafting this pile should be recalled by their respective citizens of their states and thrown out of office for even suggesting legislation like this.

Congratulations and thank you for your service.

New Jersey probably has a method that handles stage guns. However in New York City there is such a thing as a "NYC Theatrical Weapons Permit" and here is a detailed account on how it is handled...... "The kinds of prop and replica firearms that require a license to rent and transport are registered and tracked by the NYPD just like real guns, " http://www.props.eric-hart.com/features/nyc-theatrical-weapons-permit/ Here is the NYPD link for the the permit instructions http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/downloads/pdf/permits/Special_theatrical_permit_instructions_3.pdf

According to this, the law was approved in 1997 POSSESSION OF AN IMITATION FIREARM FOR UNLAWFUL PURPOSE (N.J.S.A. 2C:39-4(e)) Approved 12/8/97 http://www.judiciary.state.nj.us/criminal/charges/weapons11.pdf

Silencers gaining popularity among Maine gun users http://bangordailynews.com/2012/04/29/news/state/silencers-gaining-popularity-among-maine-gun-users/ "It’s that sound, or lack of it, that’s creating a sudden boom in local silencer sales." Pretty good mainstream article about how the use of silencers is up in Maine. One of the reasons for the increase is to cut down on noise in order to keep the neighbors happy. The article goes on to mention that hunting with silencers is illegal. They mention the six month wait for the stamp.

$600 for a silencer and stamp, I'd rather spend that kind of money on a decent pistol. And $6,000 - $12,000 + for a FA is totally out of the question for the foreseeable future. I would not mind heading over to Knob Creek someday to rent a FA, that would be more financially doable.

Lawyer Jimmy Binns sported an authentic-looking Philly police uniform, complete with an unpermitted .40-caliber Glock, at the 2010 Hero Thrill Show in Margate, N.J." This was covered up for two years!

That restriction should not apply to armed guards on the job transporting large sums of money or does it?

The manufacturers got sporting exemptions from the Destructive Device classifications. One of the criteria for the 'sporting exemption' is that the round must be a hunting round according to this thread. "This is why nearly all the cartridges over .50 that have such an exemption are hunting rounds." http://www.thehighro...p/t-607891.html The largest is the 950 JDJ Centerfire rifle.

Thanks ...There is more information here http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php?/topic/30966-federal-judge-trashes/

OK I got it thanks. What part of Ohio are you originally from? I'm not that far from Cincinnati

Hypothetical Question: What happens in the case If both the husband and the wife bought the handgun together in PA and it was legally considered joint property there. And they used the gun together (and separately) when living in PA because they both owned it. They then moved into to NJ, do they still both own it? Or can only one person own it once they move to NJ? How would the police or a range in NJ determine that that handguns bought in PA are the husband's gun or the wife's gun or both spouses owns it? I understand that handguns bought in NJ can be traced and then it can be determined who owns them because they are registered at sale. But PA bought handguns are not registered at sale.

If you are wondering and ask the question when did this all come about? The permit process for conceal carry goes back to 1924 (according to my research). At one time the bank president can apply for 20 carry permits for bank employees! Times have changed some since then.... Chapter 137 Laws of 1924 Page 305 - 308 >Concealed carry permit now needed. Establishes Record of Sale, Registry, signature of buyer and seller, duplicate needs to be delivered to chief of police, penalties include a high misdemeanor, 24 hour waiting period, no sales after 3 pm, presidents of banks and trust associations, loan institutions, can make application for (up to) 20 permits for the employees,agents, messengers and clerks. Does not apply to State Police or any motor vehicle inspector...Approved March 11 1924 http://lawlibrary.rutgers.edu/cgi-bin/diglib.cgi?collect=njleg&file=148&page=0305&zoom=90

Great question, I have read forums where 'survivalists' have recommended in burying some firearms encased in PVC in case of a future confiscation TSHTF scenario. As far as a gun in a casket, if the casket had a FID it would be OK. And it could be considered unlawful unless it securely fastened. Padlock and chains around the casket could be considered securely fastened. Then there is the whole issue of transport, the casket with the gun could not stop at a place of worship before burial unless it had an FID otherwise it would have to go directly to the cemetery. Does the FID have to be in the casket or outside of it? Suppose the hearse has to stop for gas, is that an reasonable exemption? Maybe Evan Nappen could address these issues....

#17 The strange noises happened live on TV during a baseball game. it has been one of the biggest things to be talked about on the internet within the last year... NDAA has been talked about by Alex Jones and others on the internet. I think even Judge Andrew Napolitano mentioned it as well in his Facebook Blogs and on Fox News (which I don't watch).