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They get it from the same place the news media get their information from, TV crime dramas like "Law and Order" and "NCIS".

1123 Winchester Road Lexington, KY About 80 miles from here...I haven't been there yet....

Maybe NJ.com or some politician sent him here............

Looks like there rethinking the stand your ground law ...and they didn't mention gun control or restricting guns, just the use of them... I must be psychic .... "Police chiefs and prosecutors have decried the law for years, but it wasn’t until the Martin shooting that notable Republicans, including the bill’s author, Rep. Dennis Baxley, R-Ocala, have said the law may need to be reconsidered." Read more here: http://www.miamihera...y#storylink=cpy

The antis are not going after guns this time, they are going after the laws that govern the use of a gun. We been hearing these stories that the antis have been planning a different roundabout way to achieve gun control. Looks like they are planning to use this situation to achieve their objective...(in my opinion).

Other states have these restrictions too. New York State and Clark County Nevada requires pistols that are to be carried to be listed on the license/permit.

In California it was legal to carry loaded weapons in public, until the Panthers started carrying loaded weapons in public in their marches and elsewhere.... Governor Ronald Reagan eventually signed a bill into law making that practice illegal. So if there are protests, marches, riots or worse... I wonder if they will use this situation for some kind of gun control measures... Reading from the past... Also legal under California state law was the practice of carrying a loaded weapon, as long as it was visible. But legal or not, the sight of Newton and Seale bearing shotguns as they rushed to the scene of an arrest had enormous shock value. To police officers and citizens alike, this represented a huge change from the previously nonviolent demonstrations of civil rights activists. Although they did not use the guns and maintained the legally required eight to ten feet from officers, the Panthers inspired fear. Read more: http://www.answers.c...r#ixzz1rdWx3fF8 Attracting new members through their high visibility, the Panthers sprang to national attention in 1967. Antagonism toward the party by law enforcement officials had prompted California lawmakers to consider gun control. In May 1967, legislators met in Sacramento, the state capital, to discuss a bill that would criminalize the carrying of loaded weapons within city limits. Read more: http://www.answers.c...r#ixzz1rdX841S2 The 1967 Mulford Act sailed through both houses of the legislature and was signed into law on July 28, 1967. When Ronald Reagan signed the bill into law, he stressed to the press that the bill does not ban hunting. Continue reading on Examiner.com California's ban on carrying loaded firearms in public - A brief history - Los Angeles LA | Examiner.com http://www.examiner....y#ixzz1rda3G8SR

I just wonder if the antis will use this not for gun control but to weaken self defense and carry laws. I have been hearing these stories about how the antis might use some back door approaches for gun control...but not call it gun control. It may be nothing but it is a healthy question to ask....

Some LEO's will not sign it, so the other route is to create a trust. With a trust one can bypass the LEO sign off route and also bypass the fingerprint and photograph requirements. In either case the tax is $200 and the wait is running around six months. Even though NFA items are allowed here in the Bluegrass, I don't know anyone who owns a Machine Gun. They really are too expensive, to buy and to shoot. Regarding NFA items: There does seem to be a growing number of those getting silencers, In Michigan it is now legal to obtain them. Texas also allows them for hunting purposes. They run $400 +/- and also require the $200 tax stamp and the six month wait.

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Taxes are lower but gas cost more. For firearms if it is not prohibited by the Feds, we can buy it with no waiting periods or no permits (except NFA - But All NFA items allowed with the "NFA process") . BB Guns and sling shots sold at Walmart . . Open carry no permit, Conceal carry with permit, and the permit also covers all concealable weapons including knives and other 'things'. Stand your ground and Castle doctrine laws. 70 MPH speed limit. Fireworks are allowed. No vehicle inspections or emissions check. Doesn't snow much in the winter, summers are not that humid. Casinos just over the border in Indiana and soon over the border in Cincinnati. Buds Guns located in Lexington, Knob Creek here, plenty of fishing, hunting and camping. Centrally located and lot of room. More horses and cattle than people. KY Speedway, Kentucky Derby, UK Wild Cats National Champions y'all. Drawbacks... No Yankees, Mets, Phillies, Giants, Jets, Eagles and no Hockey or pro Basketball. No real pizza places-just national brands, no diners to speak of. Some counties are 'dry', no alcohol. Only bad gun law here is you have to be a resident for six months before you can get a carry permit, and that is a two part process that can take 2 to 3 months. Tornadoes can and do occur here, more ice storms and generally colder than on the East Coast in the winter.

You could own a house in NJ, but rent it out to someone else and you actually live in another state.

Before the 1968 gun control act, it was possible to buy a pistol, rifle or shotgun out of state. When New Jersey enacted the FID gun control act in 1966, it was reported that dealers in neighboring states were setting up outdoor stands to sell to NJ residents looking to circumvent the FID law until the 68 GCA made that practice illegal. It is possible to buy (and come back to NJ with) long guns in other states (bought through a FFL there) if both states approve of it, the NJ resident still needs the FID and eligibility certificate and the long gun has to be NJ legal.

Thanks James, I been studying the various gun control laws of the states for some time. Your Mass LTC Class A restriction is very similar to some (upstate) counties of New York State. Some (upstate) counties have unrestricted , others have the restrictions to camping, hiking and hunting. It varies from county to county. NYC is a whole different animal altogether. From what I was able to gather, the inspiration for Mass FID system and the Illinois FOID system came from New Jersey's FID requirement in 1966. Illinois started their (Firearm Owners ID) requirement in 1968. I don't have an exact date for Mass. ...I think Massachusetts started theirs in the early 1970's. Looks like you will have more of a choice of handguns in NJ than Mass because NJ doesn't have handgun roster like Mass has. Welcome to the forum and to the state.

James, do you have to turn in your Mass FID/LTC when you move out of state? Some states require it like NY for the pistol permit, I was curious about Mass laws. I also read that to get a LTC is very difficult in Boston, but not too much problem in the rest of the state. Thanks

Good Lord, I hope the State doesn't make people get permits in order to use gift cards that were bought out of state. I can see it now, fingerprints, photographs, background checks, six month wait and a $100 tax deposit to the NJ Treasury in order to use out of state gift cards. Cousin Joe in Ohio sending Aunt Martha in NJ a gift card for her birthday would make Aunt Martha a criminal if she didn't have the permit...or fall under one of the 'exceptions'

Maher is an entertainer, (IMO) he seems to use controversy to keep his name in the news for free publicity. His opinions really do not matter anymore than Jay Leno's or David Letterman monologues . If people stop watching Maher, stop giving him attention eventually he will be out of a job.

IANAL (I am not a lawyer), but doesn't this a violate interstate commerce in some way?

I better not mention that I have the Hi Point 45 acp. lol

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The thing is these 'washed up hippies from the 60's" used to cry and demand "Power To The People" ...well now that these hypocrites have their little power trip going ...its more like "Piss On The People"

Yes, and that is yet another reason to leave the state.

Ohio has them.

Quote "In addition, N.J.S.A. 2C:58-4 provides a reasonable mechanism for obtaining a permit to carry guns outside the home." They probably meant In addition, N.J.S.A. 2C:58-4 provides a reasonable mechanism for obtaining a permit to carry guns outside the home the state...

Just across the river from me, there is Ohio. And Ohio it is a different story regading gun laws than here in Kentucky. In Ohio there seem to be many places that prohibit concealed carry including , fast food take out places, malls, electronic stores, that huge food store Jungle Jims in Fairfield Ohio prohibits conceal carry. In addition I have even seen CCW prohibited in Pawn Stores and even gun stores in Ohio. And in Ohio there is also a duty to inform police officers if stopped while carrying. KY has no such law. KY allows one to have a loaded handgun in the glove compartment without a permit. Ohio and Indiana require permits for a loaded gun in the glove compartment. So even though KY, Ohio and Indiana are close by each other and all have concealed carry permits. The laws are very different in other respects. One could end up with a felony in one state, but in the other state it could be perfectly legal. So while having a concealed carry permit in is a great thing, one needs to pay attention where they are and know what the laws are when they cross into the state. Being aware of the laws is important with conceal carry permits.