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That's certainly true. But at least we may find some additional information, or correlation, to use when appropriate in other venues.

On Wednesday afternoon and evening 4/1 the Outdoor Channel will air a special from Katie Pavlich of Townhall.com, 'Safe Haven'. The show will chronicle the role gun free zones have historically played in various shootings. The show airs multiple times starting mid-afternoon Wednesday. Depending on your cable/satellite system you may or may not see a program description for 'Safe Haven'.

It's my understanding that with NJSP the checks are cashed at the Firearms Unit in Trenton, not the barracks. That's usually my signal they've actually started working on the permits. And that's my clue to send in the MHE (if I have one). Among other things I got a Sig P220 SAO. At 21', the first four rounds went through the same hole, and the fifth was about 1" away. And take my word for it, I'm not some kind of marksman. I bought this because my instructor at Sig Academy swore by it in the competitions he shot at, usually against all manner of 1911s. I definitely like it.

Antennaweb.org will give you a general idea of your reception potential but is by no means authoritative to determine what channels you will or won't receive. Antenna height above sea level, surrounding local terrain and structures, and line-of-sight distance to the transmitter are the three major factors. You can definitely improve your reception by placing an amplified antenna outdoors in the clear as high as practically possible to maximize signal strength at the antenna. The antenna amplifier can assure a boost in the signal to make up for wire loss between antenna and TV or splitter, but it can't improve the signal to noise ratio. That's why you want the antenna to grab as much signal as possible. I'm looking at doing this myself. My plan is to buy the best amplified antenna I can afford, position it outside as high as possible, and then check with a single direct connected TV to check reception. When I see what I really get then I'll decide whether to dump the majority of my cable service, or all of it. (TV only; we have land lines and DSL Internet) I did this before we bought the land over 30 years ago. I had a battery operated TV, a small outdoor antenna I carried up into a tree. From our hilltop in S.E. Sussex County I got all of NYC and Philadelphia VHF/UHF stations, and everything in between. Scranton stations were a bonus. Primarily because of the three factors above. The changeover to digital broadcast has changed the broadcast power and patterns of most stations, and in some cases transmitter locations. So I'm not counting on getting everything today. And don't test with an antenna in an attic if at all possible. Even with no metal or metal foil in your structure, a marginal usable signal can be made unusable when the antenna is not in free air. That's the one advantage of digital transmission; if you've got the minimum acceptable signal, you still have maximum picture. No ghosting, noise etc. like in the old days. Update: OK, my curiosity was up and I haven't checked my attic mounted Channel Master long range VHF/UHF amplified operation in a long time. So I connected that antenna feed over to one TV, did an auto-scan and am getting 63 channels (that includes all the .sub-channels) out of Philly plus WABC from NYC. That includes all the networks, plus 12 and 2 out of Wilmington DE. Antennaweb.org says I'm 71 miles from the Ch. 6 transmitter site in Philly and 47 miles from 7 in NYC. All these stations are clear as a bell. My Channel Master is most definitely directional and pointed at Philly so I'm not surprised I'm only getting 7 out of NYC on the backside. So now I'm going to order the Amazon Basic 60 Outdoor HDTV antenna and mount it about 15' higher in the clear outside and see how it does comparatively. It's $45 cheaper than the Mohu Sky 60. Ideally I want to pull in both NYC and Philly without having to rotate anything. FYI, I'm at 950' on top of a ridge line near the Sussex-Warren border.

My latest timeline through the NJSP Augusta barracks. 12/23/14 Applied for permits 02/17/15 Permits check cashed 02/18/15 MHE submitted 02/27/15 Permits issued 03/04/15 Permits delivered 03/06/15 1 handgun purchased on P2P 03/21/15 MHE delivered 03/23/15 MHE exercised

Alex Roubian was excellent. My compliments.

A passport will not work because it is not linked to your state of residence. I would imagine any state issued photo ID would be acceptable. I'm not aware that a DL is a requirement to buy a firearm, or get an FID or P2P in NJ. But you need to prove who you are and where you reside.

You know that's an interesting point. Aside from NJ2AS, ANJRPC or other similar group/club meetings, I can't think of a single 'gun violence' forum I've seen or heard of hosted by PRO gun people.

Thank you for that rather detailed account. I was not there, but I witnessed exactly what you're referring to in another meeting I attended. And I agree with your assessment. The committed anti-2A/gun people will never be converted by anything we say, least of all if delivered with interruption and down-shouting. I can only see one reason for pro-2A people to attend a meeting set up like this, and that is to persuade anyone there who is honestly searching for an answer or opinion that our position is the one most in their own interest; to provide a counterweight to the propaganda and distortions typically presented. In my opinion the best way to do that is with facts and well-reasoned and derived positions, presented in a persuasive manner and using the opponents position against them wherever and however possible. Persuading can be effective. Interrupting and shouting never will be and should be avoided at all costs, no matter how frustrated we are.

Try this. There is also more material on other areas of this site. http://www.armedcitizensnetwork.org/buyersguide

I'm currently testing the Foscam FI9831W. Wireless or wired, with 1280x960p. The setup was pretty flaky, wireless authentication didn't always work, and their documentation is terrible. I did get it running properly after firmware upgrade and a LOT of Goggling to find out the quirks. It also has a SD card to locally store alarm video on until you can look at it. (This can be both good and bad. The camera could be stolen.) This camera has noticeably better resolution than the earlier models I have. Today my main criteria for a camera is resolution and field of view. A video is no good at all if you can't recognize the faces, and in some cases license plates (which is much tougher). I won't be buying anything less than full HD as above, regardless of manufacturer. I'm waiting on delivery of a GW Security GW2040IP. On paper this should be a big step up, and it has a varifocal lens. Read the specs on Amazon. If this thread is still running when it shows up I'll give a brief review. There's a lot of issues in selecting cameras. Inside or outside? Wired or wireless? AC power or POE (Power Over Ethernet). Day, night or both? Remote control or not? And then of course there's collecting and retaining video in the event it's needed. You and/or your friend should have a conversation with someone conversant on these topics. Probably too much for a thread. Just be sure you understand the intended purpose, and then tailor your purchase to fit.

"Have I the power to change the law?" "There is no limit to Pharaoh's power." "The law is changed." Akhnaton, The Egyptian (1954)

This, again. The first purchase has no waiting period, other than the delay between the permit being issued and you exercising it. Thus there are 30 days to play with timing for Sundays, holidays, personal convenience etc. I like the way you put that.

This. Absolutely.

Yes, that is true. I only referenced the reman because it's typically 6-7% less cost than their new brass, and I am primarily interested in price.

Thanx Oak Ridge; appreciate that intel. If I get mine within three weeks I'll be content.

The floodgates will open when the next Democrat governor is in office.

(Order cost + Shipping)/RoundsOrdered = Cost per round. Compare prices on manufacturers and sites mentioned above. All are worthy. Don't forget to figure in shipping. It is significant. Freedom Munitions is reman ammo. My wife and I have shot 5K+ rounds in four different calibers with no higher issue rate than what I've seen in the new brands. (And that rate is VERY low. Like 1 per 2K rounds.) When they have a free shipping offer (and they do) their ammo will be the cheapest in cost. Get on their mailing list. TargetSportsUSA.com bulk prices are usually in line with the least expensive web sites, but on case lots there is free shipping via Fedex. Do the math above for comparison. And some of these sites will require an image of your FID on file before they will ship to you. Some will not.

I know for a fact the trooper at my local barracks is very efficient, prompt and helpful. My wife and I applied on the same day for permits. My permit check cleared. 9 days later her permit check cleared. Then 10 days later her permits arrived. And a week after that my permits arrived. The black box in the chain is the Firearms Unit in Trenton. (For those of us who must use the State Police from end to end.) Sometimes they are fairly quick. Sometimes they take forever. They have definitely accommodated some special requests. The only thing I can say with certainty is that it is definitely not a first in, first out operation. It seems like whose desk your applications land on determines how fast your permits will be processed.

I would really like to know why some barracks take 10 weeks and this one takes 2.5

Here is the advisory. Read it and interpret for yourselves. To me it reads 'we're waiting, and later we'll take another run at it'. http://www.atf.gov/press/releases/2015-03-021015-advisory-notice-those-commenting-armor-piercing-ammunition-exemption-framework.html

I'll let you know when mine arrives. If you don't mind, do the same for me.

I applied for permits 12/23/2014 at the State Police Sussex Station. I submitted a MHE 2/17/2015 after my permits check cleared the bank. The permits were issued 2/27/2015, and and were ready for pickup 3/4. The MHE is at the Firearms Unit in Trenton waiting for approval. You must have all the handguns on your MHE reserved/purchased/whatever when you submit it, because you must put serial numbers on the MHE. You can't fill in the blanks later. In my case that would have meant I'd have lined up (and paid for!) everything I wanted before 12/23/2014, and then waited 10 weeks for things to be approved. I will now see how long the MHE approval takes. In 2012 and 2013 it was just a few weeks; no where near as long as permits. In my view, the whole point of this byzantine and vague set of laws and regulations, along with all their interpretations and misinterpretations, is to make it as inconvenient as possible to acquire handguns. So from the Democrat legislators' and some PD's point of view, the whole arrangement is working just fine and serving its intended purpose.

No cheering here. I was being sarcastic. They're just trying to put a good face on, like the NJ Assembly Committee. Remember "we'll hear the testimony after we vote"?

Hey, everybody chill. It was all just a 'publishing mistake'. http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2015/03/07/atf-calls-stripping-exemption-for-ar15-green-tip-ammo-a-publishing-mistake-n1967168 Your voice will still count. Right?