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$8.56 at Amazon, and very sturdy. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000O5ILUM/ref=oh_details_o05_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

As many of you may have noticed, pollution of the meaning of words/language (in this case English) is essential to advancing the reach and scope of government, and obviating any existing law. Once words and language have no concrete meaning, the government is unleashed and can do whatever it wants with no inconvenient restraints. A recent example: "If you like your health plan and your doctor, you can keep them. Period" now means "You can keep your health plan and your doctor if I decide they're adequate for you. And if not you'll buy what I specify and pay for it or be taxed or imprisoned." See how easy that was? Now "... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." is a phrase to which we can attach any convenient meaning. But the government is the only one that can make it stick. 'Legally'.

I have discovered that FFLs are similar to TV repairmen. Some can read schematics. Some can't.

You didn't say where on the NY border. There's also Skylands Sport Shop in Augusta on Route 206. Right next to the NJSP Sussex Station. They are a Glock stocking dealer. And they were (are?) having a sale on Glocks. I was there Monday and there are at least 8 Glocks in their case.

I cannot find any PA state statute that says a PA resident may legally receive any kind of firearm directly from an out of state resident. Therefore the Federal GCA of 1968 is not superseded in PA by state law. If anyone knows of such a statute, please cite it here. Here are the Top Ten Questions from the ATF. See question 2; the answer is not ambiguous. The only circumstance where an FFL is not involved in an interstate transfer is in the case of a death and firearms have been willed to someone in another state. http://www.atf.gov/files/firearms/industry/0501-firearms-top-10-qas.pdf

OK CA, sorry for the departure from topic. Sometimes I can't help sermonizing on that subject. On My Cat From Hell there are frequently stories of people who have built their own Catios, as well as some professional jobs. A lot of ideas are on display. DVR some episodes when they rerun and take a look. Animal Planet sometimes has MCFH marathons where you can get a lot at once. And check the MCFH website; a lot of info is archived there. Besides that, just use your imagination. You're a cat. What would you like? Tree dwelling, bush dwelling, or both? Grass growing in pots, wood towers to climb, places to perch and view, places to hide etc. A secure enclosure to separate the wild from the secure. Cool in the summer; warm in the winter. And...You're off! To Home Depot and the garden store. And good luck with your kitty.

OK CA, one more story. The sister of our rescue #2 went to friends in Hunterdon county 10 years ago. They let her run outside at will for years. A couple months ago she got in a fight with some wild animal and was clawed and/or bitten in the hind quarters. The result was $3,000 dollars worth of recurrent surgeries and vet hospitalizations for persistent infection of the wound and abdominal cavity. More interestingly, our friends report she has NO further interest in going outside. I wonder why? My wife and I simply won't subject our cats to the risks of the wild. We do however make indoor life as interesting as possible. Even their free will must be subject to some constraints. P.S. Who watches My Cat From Hell?

A good strategy Vlad; I heartily concur. And Bob, I hesitate to publicize their name at this point. If they don't straighten themselves out after my next visit, I might consider it. I want to know if this was an innocent (incompetent?) error, or willful ignorance. Either way of course, if I was an FFL, I couldn't imagine being this far out of the legal loop. BTW, here's the ATF link. My questions of interest are the first two, and the statute references are right under the answers. http://www.atf.gov/content/firearms-frequently-asked-questions-unlicensed-persons

I have read many of the posts about bad advice received on a variety of topics from FFLs who should know better. Now I have one of my own. I was at an FFL in PA this week, and inquired about the procedure and rate they charged to transfer a rifle from a NJ resident to a PA resident. (I made absolutely certain we were discussing a transfer between residents of two different states.) I was told emphatically (by three different store workers) that they were not required to participate; the NJ resident could just hand the rifle over to the PA resident. I strongly disagreed on the basis that this was an interstate transfer and at least one FFL was required to mediate the transaction, preferably in the state of the recipient. After some back and forth where I remained completely skeptical, one of them called another FFL to speak to a person of 'authority'. That person came back with the same answer: you're good to go. Frankly, I still didn't believe them; I have been diligent about staying current on firearms law on the state and federal levels. So I came home, went on the ATF website, checked the FAQ and found the two relevant statements backed up by the references to the law (which I have now directly read). Guess who was right; the store or me? I should note they agreed the transfer procedure for a handgun was a whole different story. But they insisted a long gun could just be passed along between interstate private parties. I know the people at this store and they're not stupid. But I find it incredible they would be this misinformed on a topic this basic and important. They were essentially advising one of their customers to commit a felony. I'll be documenting the facts and return with them to the store to straighten them out. At the end of the road, we're all responsible for our own compliance, aren't we?

OP: The following is for your reference. Six years ago my wife and I rescued Sasha; a feral female at five months of age. Our fourth rescue. When we brought her home and let her out of the carrier in our all-glass sunroom, she went BESERK trying to get out. She literally climbed the window mullions to the second floor level trying to find a way out. We have NEVER let her out since, at all. Six years later: every night when I get into bed, she immediately jumps up to snuggle, be stroked, and purr madly. The one odd thing that remains: I CANNOT pick her up under any circumstance. So do what you will with the cat habitat; I'm sure your cat will appreciate it. But DON'T let it go outside again. It doesn't 'need' to. And there is NOTHING good for the cat in the wild that it can't have indoors. And there's EVERYTHING that's bad; disease, parasites, injury and death included. Your cat will never hold it against you.

That of course is how our rights are supposed to work. Except of course in PRNJ. And your scenario does sound bizarre. Since you're going through a local PD (I'm the NSJP) it sounds like a chat with the Chief or the Mayor is in order. There's no reason to wait 7 weeks to be permitted to apply. I remember the first time I applied around 1978 in Madison. When I applied they asked me "What do you want a handgun for?" Hahaha! After about two or three months I started calling. I kept getting the run around with a variety of stories. Finally I demanded to speak to the Chief. After being put on hold for a minute, I was then advised my permits would be ready for pickup the next day. Voila! I guess depending on your locale, things haven't changed much. Except of course for OGAM. Well, in any event, good luck CH.

While I understand your point CH, and might even be inclined to do that myself to vent, I will point out that doing this will also needlessly contribute to the wait time for everyone else. Unless of course you're actually buying 12 handguns a year. I often wonder how many others are doing this and generating unnecessary work, and if that's a contributing factor to why the workload is so large and the delay so long. Personally I prefer to get all my ducks in a row, apply for xx permits at once, and get another multi-handgun exemption. One check for XX permits. One NICS check too, instead of xx. Consider it. By the way, I'm still waiting on NJSP from July 23; 13+ weeks. So I feel your pain.

And if you're thinking of chewing a cookie into the shape of a gun (or the state of Florida) and carrying that for practice.... don't.

Interesting perspectives. Were I to carry at home, it would be for one simple reason: practice. If SHTF I wouldn't want to be in the position of strapping on a condition 1 pistol at length for the first time. There would be enough other things in my environment that required my full attention.

Comments acknowledged. My remarks were based on technical info provided by WinCo for their 5Kwatt+ units. With LNG the service pipe and meter must not be the bottleneck. And with LP the vaporization surface must be sufficient. With LP, if the run from the tank is short and straight you may indeed get by with a 1/2" line. I found the oil/ash comments very interesting, and I'll definitely have to look into that. Thanx.

For anyone considering converting their gasoline generator to tri-fuel, please do the research required to determine what size gas line and tank you'll need to power the size generator you have. You cannot run any decent size generator on a 20 lb. grill bottle, or a 1/2" natural gas line installed to fire a grill. A 6KW generator on LP gas will require a tank size and liquid surface area sufficient to vaporize the necessary amount of liquid to gas (>100 lb.?) and most likely a 3/4" line from the 2nd stage regulator to the generator (regulator) that is not longer than 20-30 feet. Referring to the factory specs on this topic is essential if you expect your generator to develop full power and/or not burn out trying. So before you buy a conversion kit assess your LP/LNG gas setup.

I have been a GSSF member for 18 months. After a one year membership I renewed for two more. They then sent me two purchase coupons for purchase of Blue Label guns. One coupon is valid in 2013, and one in 2014. Next year I'll get another one, valid for 2015. A GSSF member may only purchase one Blue Label gun per calendar year. Three years of member ship, three Blue Label guns at the Blue Label discount. You just won't get your first coupon until your first year is complete.

So did I. It will be month or two before I get some comparison results, but I'll be testing it against Frog Lube and Slip 2000 EWL.

Mipafox: Good one! Love your insight into this loophole! Really! Wouldn't it be a gas to try it? On second thought, NJ law also says explicitly that there will be no changes to election ballots within 30 days prior to an election. And NJ and the state Supreme Court saw fit to ignore that and do what they wanted. That's how we wound up with Lautenmummy. Again. So I for one won't be trying this one out. If anyone else does be sure and post the results. From prison if necessary.

If my choice were a 17 or 19, I would get the 19 with a legal with 15 round magazine. The 17s sold in NJ have to drop back to a 10 round mag. My wife likes the 19 Gen 4 a lot, and I have no objections.

Welcome also from Sussex County. If you come up this way watch out for the (really) wild life. I must also note that the term 'right coast', while it sounds hopeful, is at best a relative term. But unless Jerry B. uses his veto pen soon, you are in fact better off here in PRNJ. For the moment.

In my opinion, Vlad T. is right. And so is Evan Nappen. Because they are addressing two different legal issues. Vlad correctly quotes 2C:39-6. e, which major section is titled "Exemptions". Exemptions to what? In the case of section e, exemptions specifically to 'subsections b., c. and d. of N.J.S.2C:39-5'. What do 'subsections b., c. and d. of N.J.S.2C:39-5' deal with? The section is titled "Unlawful possession of weapons'. Sub-sections b, c and d deal with Handguns, Rifles and shotguns, and Other weapons. So Vlad's point, which I agree with, is that the phrase "any gun" in the exemption exempts you from having the FID card as specified in 39-5 b, c, and d. You can't be charged in your own house with illegal possession of 'any gun'. What is DOESN'T do is exempt you from any other section of NJ gun law. Specifically, it doesn't exempt you or your spouse from anything in 2C-58, which includes all the mumbo jumbo about 'transfers'. Evan Nappen's point is that a spouse could be charged on a transfer violation under 2C-58. I specifically asked Nappen in the class at GFH if any spouse had ever been charged in NJ in this manner. He was not aware of any such case. Then again, there might not really have been one. Yet. This topic reveals the most disturbing aspect of NJ gun law: internal inconsistencies in the law itself. If it were up to me I'd burn all of 2C:39 and 58. Side note: can you guess why my wife's pistols are FDE, and not black like mine?

Ditto the kudos to Frank. Stay on guard. This fight is a long way from over, let alone coming back to our side.

This editorial on Guns.com discusses what lessons might be learned from the entire Zimmerman episode. I'm not sure I agree completely with the first half of the article. The more you say to police, especially after a (human) shooting incident while you're upset and possibly under duress, the more topics you provide for discussion and interpretation later. Like in court. Nevertheless, I think the last half of the article is worthwhile reading for gun owners who might use a firearm in self defense. Especially gun owners who post on gun forums. http://www.guns.com/2013/08/12/editorials-what-gun-owners-must-learn-from-george-zimmerman/

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