TheDon

Welcome Neighbor! I'm next door in Lumberton. Hauges is a good place with knowledgeable and friendly staff. Their prices, however, are insane. They are OK for pistol owners who want to practice a couple times per year. If you shoot regularly, look to one of the outdoor ranges. They cost half the $$ and offer much more.

I know I could dig up the answer in the administrative code, but this is easier and I am sure someone knows the answer off the top of their head. For some reason I thought my last P2PP was up on July 19. But, when I looked at it last night I saw it was issued on April 13. Can I still get it renewed or am I SOL on this one?

Hey Neighbor! I live in Lumberton.

^^^^ This. And, the NRA is one of the worst when it comes to promoting fear, uncertainty, and disinformation about the UN treaty. Don't let the FUD-spreaders cause you to forget what you learned in your high school government class: (1) The Senate does NOT ratify treaties. The POTUS ratifies treaties that are negotiated and executed by the State Department with the approval of the Senate. (2) To be approved, a treaty must receive a 2/3 majority vote in the Senate. Only after the Senate approves the treaty can the POTUS ratify it. So, we only need 34 Senators to block the approval, and there are 58 on record as against it. Whereas I firmly believe that Hillary & the Obamanation would happily execute the treaty with the UN, I could never imagine the Senate having 67 Senators in favor and approving it. So, it should never be ratified. The treaty is toilet paper as far as the US is concerned. Thank God that the red states and blue states are equals in the Senate.

Range 14 cost $60 to join plus $4 per person per hour (up from $3 last year). I shot regularly and often brought guests/family. I was amazed at how fast it added up to $300+ last year at $3/person/hr. Fearing it would be closer to $400 this year, I did not renew. When my membership expired in April, I moved to CJRPC in Jackson. I love it there and I will never look back. If you live close to R14, you probably live close to Jackson. I recommend checking out CJRPC. My biggest complaints with Range 14 are: 1) The incessant reciting of the rules over the PA system: You can't even enjoy yourself or have a conversation with your kids because the constant banter is so loud. 2) Now with the new line inspection, cease-fires are 15 minutes long: You only get to shoot for two 15 min sessions per hour. 3) The RSO's think they are LEO's and get nosey about the legality of firearms they see on the line. I heard stories of RSO's calling the cops on people.

Did no one else notice the Christmas lights?

The Delran Junior Marksman Club is an educational organization whose main purpose is to instruct youth in firearm responsibility, safety, and marksmanship. All instructors are NRA certified. They have operated their shooting range in Delran NJ since 1962 (many decades prior to the encroachment of the surrounding developments). The club is sanctioned and recognized both by the NRA (J1349) and by the CMP (15044) and operated in cooperation with the Delran Department of Recreation. As you may or may not know from other postings, the range has been blamed for rounds found outside the range. Certainly, these rounds could never have been fired by the model citizens who live in the surrounding developments. So in classic NJ guilty until proven innocent fashion, Township has shut down all live fire at the range pending an evaluation of the range’s containment infrastructure by the NRA’s Range Technical Team (a process that could take upwards of 6 months). I am sure everyone understands what suspending operation for 6+ months can mean to the club. So if you live anywhere even close to Delran, please help support DJMC during this trying time. The air rifle and archery ranges are still in operation. If you own a pellet rifle, BB gun, airsoft gun, or bow & arrow, please visit for an afternoon of plinking or shooting any Saturday or Sunday. You do not have to be a member to enjoy the facilities. Public (Non-member) Fees: Adults = $20/day, Kids under 18 are free. Membership Fee: $60/year Open to the Public: Saturday and Sunday from 12:00 noon to 4:30pm Location: http://www.delranjuniormarksman.com/Location.htm Club Website: http://www.delranjuniormarksman.com

It looked semi-auto to me. Looks like the foregrip runs from receiver to end of the mag tube.

There is a thread on their forum where people post their order dates and wait times. You can kind of extrapolate from similar orders. Mine took almost 20 weeks because the SAR rails were backordered.

I didn't say that. Just ment that whenever you hear the stories, it always seems to involve a .44 or .357.

I always wonder if they know what they are doing or if they are one of those guys who think they can invent their own loads. I usually shoot with one or both of my sons. And I hear stories at least once or twice a year about some schmuck who blew up his revolver.

Every time I see this Brownells banner add I feel like they are rubbing our noses in it. Like, “Ha Ha. You guys can’t touch this! It is a DANGEROUS thing with not one (1), but two (2) evil features!" Why not just put a folding stock on it and go for the trifecta?

LOL! They just sat there poking her while she smothered in the cake.

Even if it is Ray Ray?

I doubt there will be a follow-up story, there rarely are with stories like this. But, I would be interested to know if he was shooting reloaded ammunition. I always get nervous when I am next to someone shooting reloaded ammo in a revolver.

Lucky you. It must be nice to live in America. When I escape to America, I am getting myself a Bennelli M4

My latest acquisition and first dabble with the 1911 platform. I shot it for the first time on Saturday and fell in love with it. Now, I am thinking about replacing my CCW pistol with a Kimber Crimson Pro II. It's a sickness, I tellyou... a sickness!

Hey Theron, I think Old School just called you a "hoodi looking gangsta." LOL!

There are enough gunshops in NJ. Take your business elsewhere. Stupid policy.

+1 for Ray Ray (that means I agree with him). That is what I wanted to discuss. I wasted so much money because I forgot to keep is simple. Best advice for anyone building their HD platform around a shotgun is KISS!

No thread that touches on the subject of HD can stay on subject. ;-) Thanks for the link. I'll check it out.

If you just met someone off the internet and all you know about them is that they agreed to buy your handgun, there is a risk. They might not even have a FPID or a permit. They might just be looking for a home to hit that they know owns firearms. At least at a range, there are other people around. There are bad people out there. Really, there are.

In response to my supposed nit-picking over the difference between an act “not being in violation of a specific statute” and an act being “completely legal” let me propose the following. We are all in agreement that you should not be charged with unlawful possession of a long gun under 2C:39-5, c. (1) if you have a NJFPID card. The question is: is it “completely legal” for you to drive around with an unloaded rifle in the trunk of your car (assuming it is properly cased, separate from ammo, the whole shebang). So, let’s says you are driving around with your AR-15 as described above and you get rear-ended at a stop sign. Your car is not drivable. The police show up and decide to have you towed. You now need to divulge to the LEO that you are in possession of an unloaded long gun. Are you “completely legal” with your NJFPID “get out of jail free” card? As elaborated previously in this thread, if the accident happens on the grounds of an educational institution, you could be charged with violating 2C:39-5, e. You need to choose your words carefully when the LEO inquires as to why you are driving around with an AR-15 in your trunk. If you admit that you store it there for any reason other than hunting, target practice, or other “legal use” suitable for an AR-15, you could be charged with violating 2C:39-5, d. If you admit to LEO that you are storing the rifle for WTSHTF, you may be charged under 2C:39-4, a. (1) If the accident happens on Federal property like Fort Dix, you may be charged under Federal statutes. If the accident happens in a city that has local statutes governing possession, you may be charged under municipal code. In any case you will likely be detained and taken to the police station in handcuffs, placed in a cell, and sit for quite some time while they do a complete background check to make sure you are not a prohibited person (2C:39-5, h.) I am sure I am not even coming close to covering all the bases here. Who knows what laws are out there about government buildings (for which a parking garage might be attached), bank properties, etc. So, ergo, therefore, hence, and for the above reasons, the exception within 2C:39-5e that protects you from prosecution under that specific statute does NOT make if “completely legal” for you to drive around with a long gun in your trunk. I am done now. I’ll just sit back and watch.

WOW! You are lucky to be alive. That must have been a horrible experience. But if you think it through, it is aligned with what I was saying. You were better off hiding than clinging to your grandfather. And, your grandfather was perceived as an non-threat. If he had any kind of firearm the perp would have behaved completely different. The perp would have been forced to decide: flee of direct his attention to your grandfather who was now a threat.