Screwball

Consent to mental health and the application is for the actual pistol permit. You need that before I’d worry about the purchase. Saying that to not waste your or your friend’s time. A handgun must go through a FFL in NJ. That FFL will handle the actual transfer/NICS. Your friend can either mail it (UPS or FedEx), have a local FFL send it (cheaper, since they can send USPS), or take it to the FFL. If he ships direct, tell him to make a copy of his driver’s license, and include so your FFL can record it in their book.

Hey... day after I took the position, Canada legalized weed. [emoji107] I already know how much worse it is going to be with every moron coming back over with some. I would have loved to have gone south, but there was no changing it. If they considered the issue (healthcare is a big reason for me to take/not take the job) and gave me something closer to El Paso... even if it cut the distance in half... I would have.

Customs and Border Protection. Parent agency that Border Patrol is within. I took the CBP job instead of Border Patrol. Similar, but more of Customs over patrolling the border. Border Patrol gave me 8 stations to choice two (was told I’d get one of the two). Problem was they were in the middle of nowhere. If I wasn’t a diabetic, would have went down there. But for the NM one I kind of liked (Lordsburg), it is about 2.5 hours to El Paso... so a single doctor appointment would have been 5+ hours. Other two I considered were Eagle Pass and Carrizo Springs (both Texas)... which were around an hour from San Antonio. But the doctors for it (endocrinologists) are crappy... highest rated was three out of five stars, and was out of Houston. Houlton is about an hour from Bangor, and multiple good doctors to choose from. Snow sucks, but I’m just stuck there for 3 years... if I want the 25% pay increase. FLETC is in April, so I do have a few other applications out if I get something better (actually would like the non-L/E position with ATF that I applied for). If not, it’s still a very good job that gets me out of NJ.

Big bus... [emoji41] Me? Guess would be going into 17th... when I get into CBP. Want to get my Masters out of the way when I’m up in Maine. Girlfriend’s six year old daughter... smart asses. [emoji23] She’s in kindergarten.

Waiting on the school bus... so was a little bored.

Found phone calls are better. No issues with my SRII, the two times it went back (hammer locking up the gun and chipped forend on the first, cracked wrist on the second).

https://www.njsp.org/firearms/pdf/sts-033.pdf https://www.njsp.org/info/pdf/firearms/sp-066.pdf In regards to the investigation, read the second form. It states that it is done to verify the information you give on the application. Now, read the first form, and carefully look over questions 21 through 26. Nobody here can answer these for you, but be clear with the use of “or” in that question. Any questions, probably worth a call to the NJSP Firearms Unit for clarification... but you can also ask the doctor treating you, since he is more familiar with your history. “Have you ever been attended, treated or observed by any doctor or psychiatrist or at any hospital or mental institution on an inpatient or outpatient basis for any mental or psychiatric condition? If yes, give the name and location of the doctor, psychiatrist, hospital or institution and the date(s) of such occurrence.” Is social anxiety a mental/psychiatric condition? If so, you have to put yes on the application, and give the doctor treating you. Not doing so, you are committing a third degree crime, as mentioned below where your signature goes. A yes answer doesn’t mean you aren’t getting the FID, but it will be investigated to confirm you aren’t a danger to yourself or others. Sorry if that isn’t the answer you want, but asking us whether or not you’ll get the FID is not something we can really answer. If you are denied, and get things squared away to reapply, you will have to note you were denied on question 27, with dates. Also, question 26 is a question that covers your entire life. Even if in a year you stop seeing your doctor and everything is going great, you still must answer yes and give his info. Again, falsifying an application is a crime... and if you list it as a no when it should have been yes... you definitely are not getting a FID.

Not implying you, but I also see A LOT of people in the gun community argue that... but when they look for guns, they will buy a gun online that is $20 less than a local gun shop. Never mind shipping, and then the transfer that the dealer usually just charges NICS for a sale out of his inventory. So, people want them to support the community when it effects them positively, yet not give them a dime for sales, and complain about transfer fees. Have I picked up stuff online, and transferred locally? Of course... however, usually only things I could not get locally. Are there s***y FFLs in NJ, exploiting the community? Yes. However, they are actually a minority. If anyone wants to carry transfers out like that, apply for your FFL, go through the hoops, and offer what you feel is right. I’m sure by the time you get your license in hand (time and finances invested), you’ll view it very differently. Sorry, but since all this legislation has come up, I’ve noticed a side of NJ gun owners that I didn’t really observe prior (not just on here). And for as much as it seems terrible to say, the mail in ballot I sent in will be my last support of the gun community in this state.

MA? Don’t follow it, as I’m not there or intending to move there.

Who offers a NH class? I got mine before I took the FL/AZ class... in which we were told to apply for the NH to get Pennsylvania (back when it worked). There is not a class requirement for the NH permit. It’s a form and check... that’s it. You can always get the permit... as it works with states with agreements with NH. But isn’t needed... you can carry as long as you aren’t prohibited from possessing firearms.

The Rugers? I’ve seen them a quite a few dealers in NJ. I do know some of those other caliber M1 Carbines (9mm, if I remember correctly), were deemed as “assault weapons.” Biggest identical situation I heard was that MA AG who redefined what was included as identical... making all ARs covered, and not just things like Colt’s marked “AR-15.” Was after that Florida nightclub shooting.

What’s between you and him is just that... between you and him. Just my own position on the subject, if I was a potential buyer. Wouldn’t want him or you to feel like you are doing something wrong... it’s just how NJ set the laws up. Either way, I just got the call that I’m going to FLETC end of November. Couldn’t even go for a pistol permit if I tried. [emoji41]

They are fine, as are AK clones. I have a WASR sitting in my safe right now... legally transferred through a NJ FFL who had some others in stock.

For stuff like that, I never would tie someone up like that. Back when I got my S&W 1006, I purchased it from the seller, and it sat at SS until the permits came back. I also had one of the moderators on BerettaForum, who I consider a friend, that I purchased two handguns from (Beretta PX4 and SIG P228). He lives outside of Orlando. I paid, and he held the pistols until the permits came back. Is that a normal situation? No (someone I actually trust), but kind of a hard situation to deal with if you are waiting on permits. Usually better to not look until you waited a month after submitting.

Still gives the point that handguns can’t go USPS with C&R...

On the ATF C&R page... Specifically about sending a firearm for ATF examination... but wouldn’t say it if you could otherwise. In case anyone is looking at this in the future with questions.

The USPS regulations specifically state FFL dealer, manufacturer, or importer... nothing about collectors. Most people view it as a no go for shipping handguns, which I agree.

Never said it did... a FFL-03 cannot sell to a non-licensee from another state.

Yep... tried to make it clear by just saying to a FFL, and not a non-licensee. In less restrictive states, a FFL-03 can sell a handgun to a non-licensee within the same state they reside in. You have to give some ATF flyer about kids and handguns (can order from them), and if they buy multiple handguns within a week, send in a report. But as a collector, buying/selling a lot is kind of questionable.

Nope, but a negative doesn’t prove anything... Closest thing we had was that member who had their guns held by police, and they will not give 15 rounders back to them. Too much confusion, because legislators don’t care for our rights. Who give a damn if a magazine is confiscated prior to the deadline? Obviously not Murphy. Think you misunderstood me... L/E can still buy 15 rounders. Why? Don’t know... I didn’t write the law. Why do L/E get exempt from the NICS for private transfers? And how did FFL-03s get a similar exemption (granted between two 03s, and C&R firearms)? I think if one of us wrote the law, it would be vastly different.

You can sell them... but not to NJ residents (well, L/E can). The legislation allows for currently owned (from the signing of the law) 11-15 rounders to be owned until the deadline. But you cannot acquire more since that law was signed. If so, a lot of FFLs in NJ wouldn’t have been sending back or converting their 15 rounders.

That is the $1,000,000 question... Some feel that the transportation law is valid, thus it is illegal to do so. Others feel that the magazine isn’t illegal until December. The law is vague in the implication for a reason.

Yes/no... Federally, it is handled as any other FFL transfer. Signed out of the seller’s book, signed into the FFL-03’s book. However, it is the selling FFL’s decision on handling as such or requiring a NICS/declining the sale. If they say no, it is not like I could wave my license (well, copy of license), and force them to do it. Yes... but again, seller’s discretion. But you can buy from a non-licensee, as well. Just need to put DL number in the book. If a FFL-03 sells a handgun outside of state, must go to an FFL, and not to a non-licensee. In regards to coming back to NJ, make sure the gun/magazines are legal, and follow the transportation laws.

Not to someone within NJ...

I wouldn’t buy anything like that (Garand... not something on my regular list... just s***s and giggle purchases) if I can’t get it shipped to me or pickup myself (PA... didn’t go to the past Oaks show, but likely the one near Christmas if I’m still around)... I’ll just wait until I move/change address on my FFL-03, then have stuff sent directly. I can’t wait until I can have a C&R eligible AR sent straight to my house. Don’t think I’m getting a M1 Carbine, as I’m siding with a Fulton Armory reproduction (new receiver... likely the regular stock and a M1A1 stock for kicks). In regards to this topic, I am very interested in how it pans out with the current law. For the few people stuck here, maybe they can make something good come out of it.