Combat Auto

It would be justified for citizen's to protect themselves, especially now that cops just take a defensive role most of the times when these violant-lefty-riots ensue.

Vietnam era was much more divided, and it was back in the day when police didn't take any crap from protesters breaking the law and beating the crap out of them. Even construction workers beating the crap out of protesters in NYC. Lefty's spitting on our military in airports as they came back from Nam. Many young people trying to get out of the draft one way or another. Protester's shot dead at Kent-State by national guard. Violence all over the place not to mention a bunch of political assassinations....Now is almost tame in comparison, but agree it is the most divided since Vietnam war.

I hope you are at least an ANJRPC member ($40), they will keep you updated in e-mails. And if you can, donate to their litigation fund. This is it for us, no one else is going to help or stop this if the suit doesn't. I've made some of my biggest donations ever to ANJRPC this year, it is now or never, and rest assured The-Lefty isn't going to stop at 10R.

What are the logistics with this? I have made 2 significant donations to ANJRCP's litigation fund in the last few months, are you saying I can CNJFO to match that? Or is it too late because I sent it right to ANJRPC already? Or am I misinterpreting? Thanks

Yea, the owner is good guy, he tries his best. My XDM blockers worked my PPQ m2s (9 and 45) did not even after the 2 sets he sent me. Have to try them at the range to be sure before using the epoxy of course.

The notion that we have a 180 day grace period where we can retain possession of the 15R mags but not take them to the range seems bizarre and I believe incorrect! Even (IF) one "thinks" you can't take them to the range otherwise for say a USPSA match (and I don't see anything in the bill which says during the 180 days you can't take them to the range), the State has ordered me to do one of several things with my mags, one of the options is to permanently modify them. After I modify the mags with say a mag-blocker (but not permanently yet), and before I seal-them up for "forever", I have to test them at the range under fire for proper feeding and to make sure to see they still only take 10 rounds after putting some rounds down range (Just before the Law was signed, I already tested a 45 mag blocker that failed on both accounts). Hence, to comply with the law after the 180 days, we need to use the grace period for range testing of said compliance. Simple logic.

From Nappen's assessment...Retain possession for 180 day's, doesn't say anything about home, vs car, vs range. To me that is all "possession". "(11) Is there a “grace period” for possessors of large capacity ammunition magazines to take action? A: Yes. A person who legally owns a semi-automatic rifle with a fixed magazine capacity exceeding 10 rounds or a large capacity ammunition magazine as defined under subsection y. of N.J.S. 2C:39-1 which is capable of holding more than 10 rounds of ammunition on the effective date of the new law may retain possession of that rifle or magazine for a period not to exceed 180 days after the effective date of the new law. During this time period, the owner of the semi-automatic rifle or magazine shall:"

Yes (sadly), yes (give $$$), and yes (on civil disobedience). ANJRPC just filed the magazine limit law suite so now is the time to step up (again) and donate (don't complain later, and remember, if 10R dosn't burn your butt, it is just a step on the way to 5, etc.)...I like the idea of sanctuary-2A-towns also. Any ideas how to go about doing this? Just a thought, I think it might be good for those merchants in the industry to take a leadership role in their respective towns.

Yep, I already got one each 10R xdm, ppq45, and p-mag, to hold me over, but thanks for posting. What I can't find are the 10R PPQ-M2-(9mm) versions, everyone is out now for some months already. I am going to apply for a grandfathering wavier for the 9MM-PPQ if I can't get any soon, WTH, worse they can do is deny it.

I picked up a few to try. Worked great in my XDM-Competition45, not so well in my ppq45 - jammed up the mag. It is just another option, but as you note, wouldn't be able to clean or replace springs if epoxied...The AR-pmags are pretty cheep so I'm just buying new...Not buying anything else though until month 6 starts and if there is no "stay".

They did that in NY-City when this happened. IN NJ, don't know, the ratio of cops to gun owners in NYC (they have a lot of cops) might be a bit higher then out here. I can't see them doing it here, too much "work" for them (just guessing).

I don't get all the surprise, we knew this would happen. I generally bash the NRA also for doing little for NJ, but ANJRPC did a great job with their leadership this time. Jezz, they made it as easy as possible and people are still complaining about them. Not sure how we can blame them when we have enough gun-owners to keep this crap from happening if everyone voted against The-Lefty Gov. Well, the law suits were our only chance anyway, although I hoped for a miracle yesterday, the reality, with mob-rule, the political system we have in Lefty-States, the suits are the only possibility. Keep donating to ANJRPC and specify the "mag-limit" and "shall issue" suits for your funds, this is our only chance. Don't despair, The-Lefty would love you to despair yourself right into inaction.

National reciprocity (NR) does almost nothing for those in states who's rights are most under assault. If you are a NJ resident and can't carry now in NJ, you will not be able to carry if NR ever passes. It is a "special interest" proposal that helps the "elites" on both sides, and a very small % of shooters who are not elites. Really a misguided effort by the NRA and waste of political resources when so many (more) important 2A issues are on the table. Even the NRA spokespeople make a lame case for "NR", "So I can take my gun when I want to eat in a restaurant in a lefty state". Sorry, can't feel sorry for you, when so many in places like NJ, CA, etc. will be put in jail or shot for carrying at all outside their home. If they change NR, to National Carry Rights for all (which would intrinsically contain reciprocity), I'd be 100% behind it. And it would be consistent with the "bear" in Keep and bear arms for all citizens. On a "happy" note, I'm very impressed with the NJ-NRA-Affiliate's efforts with the recent NJ Shall-Issue law suite, and the pending mag-limit suite. This is stuff that actually has a chance for helping every NJ shooter, and the only chance we have. The federal-level republican legislation will not come to our aid, even with all 3 parties as republican's, and not enough gun owners in NJ vote out the lefties here (shame on us for the amount of apathy or maybe they just want a sanctuary state over carry rights ;-) - go figure).

I'm sure you've seen this update from the Senate Committee hearing Monday, says "grandfathering" so some hope, although we don't know what that means until the language comes out: S.102 by Sen. Majority Leader Loretta Weinberg (D) is a magazine and gun ban. This legislation would ban magazines with a capacity greater than 10. The committee indicated that there would be amendments on this bill addressing grandfathering, but the language has not been made available. Please follow NRA-ILA alerts for further updates

That is good input, and what the supplier did is interesting...Some of the other methods I've read about are epoxying the blocker to either the spring or bottom locking plate. Can argue if one takes the blocker out a part of the mag comes out and is hence inoperable (without new parts being added). I think a traffic stop on the way to/from the range might be a place were crap can happen. Of course always on best behavior with gun gear in car, and always say "I do not give permission" to inspect the trunk.

Yep, I know this, just starting to prepare for the inevitable. I have several-types of really cheep mag-blockers made from plastic which I purchased. The big question is how far do we have to go to "seal-them-up". As 1LTCap said, ain't nothing permanent.

Exactly...Anyone who has been through earlier capacity reductions care to take a guess -what is the acid-test? A cop trying to pull it apart by hand on the side of the road? Shooting a 9mm at it? Withstanding a hammer attack by the Lefty-Magazine-Safety-Board? The judge being in a good-mood? This is my first ban, just missed the last from 30-15, --- and I can't say I enjoy being treated like a criminal, but I'm sure this is no different then anyone else here.

You'll have 180 days from the signing by the Murph to use your new mags, after that you are a criminal (unless you sell-them, turn them in to cops (so they can use them-LOL!), modify them permanitly to use only 10r, or destroy them). Unless the NRA-Affiliate in NJ comes through and gets approval of a court-injunction (which they are working on now), which may extend how long before you become a criminal. It (may) even lead to overturning the 10r limit. I have no idea what the odds of success are though.

ANJRPC shows on their website, which was posted some time ago, that they plan to file an injunction to put a hold on the 10R limit (similar to what went on in California last year https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2017-06-29/judge-blocks-californias-high-capacity-magazine-ban)...Anyone know what the timing of this would be? Like immediately after the law passed and was signed bu the Murph?

You will enjoy that sig for sure... Rubber grips on the way...Not sure yet on the sights...What bugs me about the ones on the gun now are the dots on the rear, they can actually glare (to my eyes anyway) and make the sight alignment a tad distorted. My thinking is to black them out with flat paint and then shoot the gun again. I may even be getting a light/laser for the gun that 140$ can be applied there instead. Hard to beat a light-laser in the house. What I'd really like to put on the gun is a gold bead or brass-bead up front (and again blacked-out rear), do you know if anyone makes these for the PPQ?

Thanks for the info Ricky! I may just get the 320 for variety, still have about 2 weeks to make my choice. Good luck with your new 320 BTW!

Thanks Buddy...I was going to buy the 320 sig in 9, but have to reconsider based on shooting the PPQ. How does the 320 trigger compare to that on the PPQ?

Here is my report folks: Overall: This is one heck of a semi-poly “commander” size 45. My frame of references, whether I like it or not, are against 1911’s which I shoot about 90% of the time. Let’s get the complaints out of the way first, minor as they are: Not a fan of 3-dot sights. This is mostly shooter’s choice, and usually they work fine for me, but doing quick-head shots at 7 yards (the kind where you just “grab” the front sight and “go”), I found my subconscious was overloaded with “dots” (I usually only have one “dot” on the from sight whether fiber, or white or gold bead). After some time my brain dealt with it and the head-shots where just fine. Although the ergonomics on the gun are fantastic, the grips are not very gripy at all. Maybe OK for a 9mm, maybe, but not a 45. Not sure what Walther was thinking here. I am not surprised, as a visual had me suspecting this but I thought I do 1 shoot as is. Now all the good stuff: Most important: 100% reliable with one caveat, one out of battery due to the gun almost coming out of my hand near the beginning. OK, need to grip this tighter! And it was fine the rest of the shoot: 100 PMC-Ball (this is where I had the single OOB), 50 Golden Saber Hollow Point, 85 HST HP (235 total). My set up was two ½ area ipsic steel plates and one ¼ area ipsic plate in the middle spread across the front of a 25 yard pit. I did my usual routine as I do with my 1911s. The gun shot great, and will shoot even greater with better grips. The trigger is really amazing. The staging takes a little getting use to because the trigger break can’t be more than 3#s –surprise break extraordinary. At 25 yards on the small plate I had about a 90% hit rate because the gun shifted in my hand after 5-6 rounds, and I suspect with better grips I will get that close to 100%. I am not a fan of a real tight grip, especially for precision and longer shots, so having to over tighten to compensate for the kinda slick handle is not a plus…Up close, my absolute favorite drill is El-presidente at 30 feet. The gun shot extremely well. Having a real-tight grip at this distance isn’t a big deal. No need to stage the trigger either, just pull right though, and the amazing trigger really shined here…I did some head-shots at 30’ also on the medium plate head, it was really nice and easy.…I did a bunch of other drills but this gives a flavor of the gun and its performance...Outside the effect because of the slipperiness of the grip, the recoil was amazingly tame for a semi-poly, likely because of the hefty slide and the great balance of the gun. My remedy for the sights is just to black-out the rear dots with some flat-black. Easy fix, I just want to see 1 dot to grab the front sight. My remedy for the slick-grip is either skate tape (works wonder’s on my other semi-poly’s [don’t need it on a steel 1911]), or the thin rubber wrap around grips made by Talon and made for the PPQ 45…. No this is not quite at the performance of a quality 1911, but in the 25 yard pit and in, it is dam close. And unlike my other semi-poly’s which I only shoot once a year, the PPQ will be seeing much more action and likely be in my standard rotation – it is that fun to shoot. This gun is the real deal in performance out of a 1911 commanderish size package. Has anyone of the PPQ owner’s tried the Talon rubber grips? C.A.

I am shooting it this morning, 100 R ball, 50 Golden saber, 50 HST, I'll give an update this afternoon.

Thanks for sharing...Surprised to hear about all the malfunctions, but it happens...What kind of ammo are you shooting?