Combat Auto

This was just discussed on FOX O'Rielly...Big Bill creamed the Liberal-Powers. Powers was trying to blame it on a "Gun-Culture". O'Rielly bashed her and was very graphic with sarcasm saying "yea, the gun just walked up by itself and went off". O'Rielly correctly identified the issue as a "Culture of violence" with our young people. He talked about our drug culture, the absence of an authoritarian figure in the home (an example a "dad" in the house), the gang culture, and yes the rap culture, and the violent video games...To this I would add the godless culture. For folks that don’t believe the value system of young American’s are a big part of the violence, and where this value system is coming from, you may want to think again. Young people are very impressionable, and when you fill the void of a missing authoritarian figure with the other crap outlined above, you may get some very disturbed young men. (This is much different than an adult with established decent values partaking in some/all of the above). Does this happen to every kid in these “circumstances”? Of course not, but en-mass, the impact is not positive.

Some tidbits on keeping your bore/barrel in good health - He owns a barrel company - and has over 80,000 rounds on his pistol barrel he NEVER used a brush on (as he states): Wil Schuemann’ s approach to cleaning/not cleaning the bore is sound and still holds up today. We typically see a higher percentage of barrels ruined by over or improper cleaning than from typical wear. Barrels normally burn out, not wear out with the 416rr material we use in all of our barrels. Many of the cleaning lore was based on the older materials used in barrel manufacturing that are no longer used today by most high end barrel makers. If you use any chemicals on your barrel, it is very important that you rinse and reapply oil to ensure that the chemicals are neutralized since if they remain in the bore they can etch the barrel and attack the sulfur in the 416RR. Using a metal or brass bush can also damage the bore by scratching the surface which will give any chemicals used aftewards a pore to hid in and be more difficult to remove properly. Pushing any brush through the bore (metal or nylon) can cause damage if you insert it at an angle. The middle of the brush is metal and can dig into the surface. As the current owner of Schuemann Barrels I don’t tell shooters not to clean their barrels but to be careful and do it only as needed. I personally push oiled paper towels wads with oil on them through the bore with a plastic rod until they appear clean and leave the oil inside. As for the chamber I do the same process with a wad of oiled paper towels from the chamber and rotate it around until clean. I always wipe the outside of the barrel with a paper towel with oil until clean also. If you have to use a brush I recommend using an Otis system or bore snake. On the bore snake I normally cut some of the brushes down with a pair of sharp cutters. My long range guns only see the Otis system or bore snake as needed which is not very often. Pulling the brush or wad from the chamber end with the line or snake will keep you from applying a directional force that will cause scarring of the barrel. My AET barrel in my single stack has over 80,000 rounds and still cover leafs at 35 yards, it has never seen a brush. Error on the side on limited cleaning unless you see a reduction in accuracy and of course that will depend on your loads, bullet selection and powder used. Be smart and consider any advice that you receive prior to cleaning. Common sense applies.

C'mon man! you know you have to replace springs - they are like oil in your car... You guns may outlast you, just don't overclean them. (eg like go like a madman srubbing the bore with a hard brush evertime you shoot a box of amo).

Is this for the house, if so get the full size - alot easer to shoot...(Ditto if it is for range)...

I was a kick-ass, home-owner, anual gutter clieaner up to about 5 years ago...Decided on the helmet...I have never cleaned my gutters since..They work well, except in a really heavy doenpoor the water gushes over all points on the gutter - ain't so bad

In any walk of life, there are non-thinking "professionals" who follow process blindly without though, judgememt, or concern of consequences...This can be especillly true of people in orthority...I met many such people in the Navy many years ago, but it applies ubiquitously. Power currupts and all that (or at least makes you arrogant if you don't check yourself). -Of course when this applies to a profession of folks who carry a badge, a gun, and are the sworn agents of the State - you can see the problems develop... I for one do not want any SWATS kicking in my door in the middle of the night, shooting my dogs, or handcuffing me...With that said, the vast majority of police operations are smooth operations...But because of the larger issue of a growing government, which leads to more curruption, waste, unethical behavior, along with the fact that police are the agents of this ever growing beast, it is very appropriate that we have this conversation. And whatever you guys decide, please keep posting videos of Brooke Baldwin as part of the process - she is a real looker!

Star Treck?

Hey Buddy, What are you Piccino in Scarface? Are the Columbians comming after you? ;-)...Good to be prepared though.

LOL - that is great...I think we should defenetly do a poll on this :-).

Yes, along with: Favorate 1911. Best combat pistol. I have 2 permits left what should I buy ;-). Etc.

First -off Vlad G, I modify my comment somewhat, because there are three Vlad's in this post so I got you mixed up - my bad... My modification: People wouldn't think you are talking about yourself with that statement about white conservatives.... Nevertheless, your statement is still rediculous...And I (do) agree with, or at least respect most of what you post on NJGF... Here is why your statement is rediculous: You are accusing white/conservative/gun-owners of being biased against everyone else...Which of course on the face of it - stands alone as rediculous...In fact you are doing exactly what you are accusing said whites of doing by making such a generality like that.... I've met you on the range and know you are a good man, if you look deep in your heart, I know you would admit that you made a statement like that out of emotion, and would be willing to retract it. (We are all human). For the record, it is also a sterio-type to assume white kids (at least whan I was growing up) didn't face all the challanges you enemerated for the other groups...Not to bore you with the details, but I grew up in a very though neighborood. I watch my brothers best friend get his nose broken with a baseball bat as two other thugs held each arm. I was 12 years old. Violance, and drugs were ever present. Some made it out some didn't. Many of the teenagers died of overdoses. My family was very poor. We lived on the outer borders of starvation. I went to school with holes in my pance because my Farther couldn't offord close for us too often. BUT, and this is a big but. My parants tought me the work ethic and the education ethic...That was enogh, and the key differentiator btwn those who made it economilly and those that didn't from the old neighborhood...So your steriotyping of white conservatives (or liberals for that matter) is quite rediculous.

PS I took a vacation day from my job - no foodstamp reciepiant here! :-)

Wow Guys...I just got back from shooting 250 rounds of 45 acp at 3 steel targets: 6" spinner, full size IDPA, and 1/2 size (they call it that but it is only a 1/4 of the surface area of the full) IDPA.... Mostly at 75'....I even expanded out to 90 feet today for the first time ever with a pistol for me and had a 90% hit rate...I shot very well combat style (not perfect of coure but who is perfect with a pistol?)....It is quite a physical, mental, and even "Zen-al" work-out...More importantly, what an emotional release and stress reducer! Get out there Guys, that is what a Gun Forume is all about - I think ;-)? When you come back to reading these posts you will take it all with a grain of salt :-).

Your the one who made an Odd statement about conservative-white people - see your post above - so I am as perplexed as you.

Wow, amazing underline emotions surfaced by posting two representitive videos spanning 50 years in two distict musical genras...Great discussion. Who'd a thought. But Specifically: Not sure what white people you are talking about who think others are sub human....People might interpret you are speaking of yourself if I look back at some of your posts. I totally agree about the dividing part. Until American's stop being hyphinated-Americans, we will continue to struggle..Unfortunatly, our leaders are masters of dividing us, economically, racially, etc....Well that is why we have elections, let's hope the next time folks realize the liberals have arrived at "a bridge too far".

I think you would agree that music is a form of art? - Yes? Given this, not sure why you are having such a tough time conecting music to sociatal values...You took art appreciation in school - first thing they talk about is how art is a reflection of society.....And yes, the "hendrix era" was full of sex drugs etc. - And reflected in the music. ---This is a no brainer. So my OP was why is so much hate and violance reflected in some of the music today?

I've noticed when discussing several items with you over the last few weeks, you are full of opinions, but empty on facts, supporting eveidence, or refereneces....This is usually why it is a wast of time debating such things on the "internet"; I offered you an opening to support your position and you havn't included anythink but an opinion, tainted with bias against "right-wing-comintators". Your the one who brought up libralism and defended it as (Not) a cause of the societies problems....I posted well accepted references of Librealism and socialism, and the nexus of these two isms is indeed government programs, redishdribution of wealth, and government contol. Do they vary in degress, perhapes, but they are both on the same vector, leading in the same direction. Economics 101: See, the bigger the government gets, the less resources are available for economic growth, jobs, etc...The bigger the goverent gets, the more you will have inefeciencies in the economy...The bigger the government gets, the more curruption (IRS scandle), and waste (see Food stamp post) you will have...Libralism can't survive without big government, it's needed to support the big-spending libral programs. Now that is my lecture (as you sarcastically said).

Modern American liberalism combines social liberalism with support for social justice and a mixed economy. American liberal causes include voting rights for African Americans, abortion rights for women, gay rights and government programs such as education and health care.[1] It has its roots in Theodore Roosevelt's New Nationalism, Woodrow Wilson's New Freedom, Franklin D. Roosevelt's New Deal, Harry S. Truman's Fair Deal, John F. Kennedy's New Frontier, and Lyndon B. Johnson's Great Society. Conservatives oppose liberals on most issues; the relationship between liberal and progressive is debated.[2][3][4][5][6][7] Keynesian economic theory has played a central role in the economic philosophy of modern American liberals.[8] The argument has been that national prosperity requires government management of the macroeconomy, to keep unemployment low, inflation in check, and growth high.[8] ============ so·cial·ism/ˈsoʊʃəˌlɪzəm/ Show Spelled [soh-shuh-liz-uhm] Show IPA noun 1. a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole. 2. procedure or practice in accordance with this theory. 3. (in Marxist theory) the stage following capitalism in the transition of a society to communism, characterized by the imperfect implementation of collectivist principles. So, See above, Libralism includes many things about rights of various groups, some I agree with some I do not...But Libralism also includes (see above) government management of the economy, and that is where it ovelaps with Socializm...So although they are not exactly the same, Libralizm encompases Socialism in essence (perhapes socialism-lite). There are plenty of variations of the Libralism definition out there. What is yours SGT-T?

And on Socializm/libralism i would sum it up this way (not my quote): The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money. Just ask anyone who has survived socializm by fleeing a forien country and now lives here. I know many such people. No point in wasting time with any details on this, nobody's mind changes based on NJGF discussions ;-). This thread was more along the lines of how pop-musical generas and sociatal values reflect each other...

Wow...You filled in all the dot's; were I didn't say a word - just posted two samples of music over 50 years...Hum, perhapes your right about JZ ;-).

OK fair enough good data pt - I take it you feel you are a typical sample of "Joe-the-plumber" type of guy ;-)... So perhapes the question we should be asking is: What has driven the tasts over the last 50 years, where we went from The Oldies but goodies genra to gagnster-Rap - hard core-genra?...I think you would agree, there was no market for the latter back in the 60s...Or the 70s..or 80ss...WTH do people find joy/benifit in ganster-rap? Is it just part of our WWF type of Society? (WWF-world wresteling federation) Or some deeper drive, perhapes outlet, or who knows hate?.

^^^Maybe, maybe not, that is a seperate discussion. This Thread: I would say that music is a reflection of society - and this reflection is apparent in the 2 representitive examples I posted...Amazingly apparent I would say...

Not really..Roni Spector's music was typical of that ganra at that time. Not to say that the 60s weren't politically messed up - they sure were...But I still hold to the notion that there has been a big societal change (as reflected in these two typical samples spanning a 1/2 of centry (amazing!))...It is up to each individual to decide if it is better or worse.

Bravo!

Words I associate with the fist video are: Warm, happy, uplifting, hopeful. Words I associante with the second video are: Filth, hate, chip on a sholder, violance. Needless to say, I don't see anything positive about this change, or the implied reflection on our culture.