ryan_j

He's not "making up" a law. He's interpreting it. And really, despite Obama saying it wasn't a tax, it was a fee collected by the IRS that the Government would then spend. What is that? It's a tax.

AR 15, they're trying to be cute. http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2014/Bills/AR/15_I1.HTM

Could be different this time. They could use it to moot Drake and Pantano. Nevermind. I see this is the citizens protection act. Yep, very dead. I don't even think CC will sign it.

It's never about stopping mass shootings. For the Sandy Hookers, it's about revenge. Guns killed their kids. Gotta ban the guns because it will make them feel better that the evil guns that killed their kid are gone. For the politicians it's about multiple things. For one it's about pandering to a liberal base that just doesn't like or has a fear of guns. For the people, they are either just afraid of guns in general. It's something icky and unknown to them.

Let them. It will get struck down in very short order. You do know that everyone is afraid of being found in contempt of the Supreme Court, right? They will send monitors and hell will rain down upon them. If nobody obeys the Court, you think they want that? It causes them to lose credibility. Even pig headed Sweeney knows this. But I don't really see that happening. What I do see happening is that they'll comply like they did in Illinois and California. Illinois is issuing permits this week, and California is now waiving the in person appearance to accept applications. They put a drop box and some Sheriffs are taking applications by mail. But with a court ruling, Sweeney, Weinberg and even Christie will have cover and will be able to say that they couldn't do anything because of the court. Just like Christie did with gay marriage. What I do see happening is that they may just remove the superior court from the equation and have it approved by local PD or NJSP, like FID and PtPs, because the superior court will have much more workload as a result of all the permit approvals. They may make the process just like RPO.

I agree but it's better than not being able to get one. At most it will cost me the instructor fee and a box of ammo. I'm fine with that. Change the law? That would be great. But do you see Sweeney making it easier to get a CCW?

I think it's done through private instructors. Gun for Hire does the whole package for security guards.

You will be eating your words come next year is my prediction.

No, any judge on the 9th circuit can request the hearing. They will then hold a vote and if a majority votes for it, they'll have it.

Yeah it's not that hard. I've done it and did not miss a shot. It didn't count for anything though.

No. He did not say it was a tax. He said it "could survive" as a tax.

Apart from justifiable need, you need: Completed app form in triplicate 3 references fingerprints Photos $20 app fee The training requirement I believe is an NRA course, test in the state's firearms laws and a range qualification. The range qualification I have been told is the same as law enforcement. http://www.state.nj.us/lps/dcj/pdfs/dcj-firearms.pdf Page 35

A little at a time. I used to hate guns until I actually fired one.

That's correct. I actually don't agree with the opposition to the SC ruling on Obamacare. But the decision only said that it COULD survive as a tax. How the fine became a tax isn't really the court's fault, especially when Obama said repeatedly that it was not.

Things are changing rapidly in California now. A few other counties are now accepting applications with "self defense" as the good cause. San Diego is now accepting applications by mail to deal with the workload. They even have a drop box to drop off the apps. They are slammed. I think it's relatively safe to say there's no turning back. Congrats to our brothers and sisters in California. Maybe I should start practicing the qualification course for when NJ gets shall issue.

Remove the judges from the equation and pass a shall issue law. Hell, pass constitutional carry. We're our own state, remember?

Scalia has been taking Kagan hunting with him. So there's hope. http://nypost.com/2013/09/20/unlikely-hunting-buds-elena-kagan-antonin-scalia/

Could be, but what if local zoning got together and did something really creative they could ban gun shops or just make it really ridiculous to own one. Things like proximity to school, window displays etc.

They absolutely did have a population requirement, at least 10,000. There was a bank robbery up here, they guy just walked in, handed a note and walked out with cash. Didn't even show a weapon. Most crimes are DV or petty crimes like shoplifting. Sparta is a heavily populated town, as is Hopatcong. The rest of Sussex County is sparsely populated, except for places like Newton, but Newton has some crime.

Much of Sussex County is left out as well. Crime is almost nonexistent up here.

Even if it's a form letter, it has his name and signature on it. So either he supported 2A/CCW in the past and is now lying about it, or he is incredibly careless with putting his name and signature on something he doesn't support.

IMO, once the California case is final (Peruta) there will be too strong of a split to just ignore the issue. You'll have half the country living under one interpretation of the 2A and another half living under another. The Court simply doesn't do constitutional law this way.

Morris, Sussex, warren and I think hunterdon counties need to be their own state.

Well, after Friday, a judge on the 9th circuit could request an en banc hearing. They have until the 6th to do so. From a reliable source that is unlikely to happen but it is not "official" until that deadline has passed.

South jersey please secede already and take this clown with you!