Howard

Y YUP and we know that does stand up in court!

I have a Glock G22 and 9mm conversion barrel and went with the 1911 .45 cal as the next gun - so you know what I would suggest

Make sure SHE takes them back NOT YOU!

It depends on your town. Some want you to wait till they expire, some want you to come in the day they expire and others will extend them before that. I was lucky in that my town just extended them the day I got them for the legal max of 180 days.

Old Dog, you have made some valid points. Here is my suggestion for the biometrics. Mine will hold 32 prints, so what I did was register both my thumbs and index fingers, that leaves me with 8 ways to program each finger. What I mean by that is first I programmed it with the finger nice and centered on the reader. Then I did it with the finger jambed in all the way to the top. Then I did it to the right side, then to the left side, and then just barely inserted. So, I have each finger recorded 5 different ways, could do three more for each. The bottom line is I don't need to worry how I insert that finger because no matter how I do it the safe will read it correctly. Is it 100% totally fool proof -well no nothing is. But I am sure it will open faster than my trying to turn a tradition safe dial left-right-left in the near dark. I guess the choice is do you want the gun locked up or not, if the answer is you want it locked up then a biometric is probably the best way to go. We could talk all day if locked up or locked up is the right way to go, so let's not get into that here.

I am so sorry to hear that you lost your wallet which contained BOTH your FID and your drivers license. I don't think it will cost you much to get a replacement drivers license. If by chance the movers find your wallet well I guess both documents would still have the same address on them

Wow this is a positive thing, this is the second deal they had today that they are not limiting you to only 250 rounds. Maybe things are starting to improve.

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shooting/Ammunition/Handgun-Ammunition%7C/pc/104792580/c/104691780/sc/104372280/Sellier-Bellot174-9mm-115-gr-FMJ-Ammunition-150-Per-50/1199040.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2Fshooting-ammunition-handgun-ammunition%2F_%2FN-1100189%2B4294757573%2FNe-4294757573%3FWTz_st%3DGuidedNav%26WTz_stype%3DGNU&rid=11&WT.mc_id=cj3946285&WT.tsrc=AFF No apparent limit, don't need any but it let me pick 20 boxes.

Well as an advertiser I know I sure would hate if those that are really involved and maybe the best potential customers do not see my ads.

EXACTLY! If you don't want a gun just sitting in a drawer you have to lock it up. If you lock it up you will get to it much faster in the dark of night with a biometric than with an old fashioned left-right-left tumbler type safe. Sure batteries can fail, just replace or recharge them on a regular basis - sort of like cleaning your weapon. Mine has keypad as backup, and when all else fails a mechanical key. I think I am good to go.

Yup, it amazes me that the libs don't get that once they start taking away your second amendment rights they are on a slippery slope to losing their cherished 1st and 5th amendment rights. Its the 2nd amendment that protects all the others -- they just fail to understand that.

That is not too terrible. I just rather pay what is typically $18 - $20 shipping for a case of 1,000. But these days I guess we gotta do whatever just to find stuff. Hope it actually shows up. I ordered some from them last week and got confirmation, then on monday got an email that said now it is backordered with expected delivery of 4/30/13.

Sure its BS. Its just like what happened in the last election when lots of votes were counted for the 0bungler when people voted for the other guy. How can you believe anything without a paper trail.

Remember you always need to look at the positive side of things. If our stupid government reduces us to 10 round mini-mags at least we will now have a market to sell our 15 round mags into

Still there, but I hate to buy only five boxes as when you factor in shipping it drives up the cost.

If you epoxy it so it cannot be opened then isn't it permanently altered? Seems more permanent than the currently allowed 15 round mags with the removable base that you can add a plus 2 bottom to and make hold 17 very easily.

At least the Rino finished almost last in the straw pole at CPAC!

FID and license is require for ammo that can be used in a handgun only, not required for ammo that is only used in long guns per NJ law.

I have found that about 1/2 the online places require it for NJ addresses, while the other half don't.

The problem in NJ is NICS don't go through the FEDS like almost everywhere else - they go through the NJ State Police!

It is amazing how fast the stuff goes online. I bought some last week online from Cabelas and thought I was lucky. Got up this morning to find and email that what they said I had and paid for is now back ordered and I will have to wait till April 30th for it to come in. This really sucks. Many of the sites are now limiting sales to only 5 boxes (250 rounds) and when you tack shipping on such a small order it gets expensive fast Sure picked a bad time to start getting into shooting!

. Are those buttons on the other fingers that will let you open it that way too? I would try rescanning, I had one on my front door that acted up and reregistering the fingers solved that problem. Have you contacted them for support?

Don't tell that to anybody that has a pacemaker! BTW - the safe has a key for backup.

Good one, thanks!

Oh well I tried to share the wealth, I was able to pick up 1,000 of the new stuff.