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National guard taking Camden

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  • No offense, but more Law Enforcement is not the answer. That's the paradigm in NJ, that the people are like so much helpless cattle to be protected. I find it insulting and degrading.   A well reg

  • But... under what orders can the military take over a town?   Even though Camden needs to be cleaned up... this seriously scares me of military patrolling our streets.

  • The problem isn't Camden. The problem is the CRIMINALS living in Camden. Get rid of Camden, and the criminals will go somewhere else and continue to cause trouble. Re-develop Camden, and they will

If there were riots, it would be the NG's fault.

I spoke to a friend in the NG today. He's a little unsure of how many will be going in. But he's telling me we are looking at 3 man teams that will initially work with local PD, and then break off on their own after they're familiar with the area. They will most likely be armed with M9's, with one man in each three man team armed with an M4 w/ M203 with tear gas. Him and I both feel like if ANYTHING happens, there will be riots. We're hoping that the NG shows up, and the gangbangers decide not to call their bluff.

 

 

I hope you're not divulging information that you're not supposed to be. I can't imagine the folks in charge would want this info out there in the public to the level you're describing.

I hope you're not divulging information that you're not supposed to be. I can't imagine the folks in charge would want this info out there in the public to the level you're describing.

My friend isn't actually a part of this platoon or half platoon that will be in Camden, he's just in the NG. Also, I have to assume that if it shouldn't be public, he wouldn't have told me.

If there were riots, it would be the NG's fault.

Before I say that this is one of the more ignorant things I've seen on this forum (oh wait...), I'll ask: Why? Rules of engagement will probably be something along the lines of... "Do not fire unless fired upon, AND without permission". So please, explain how a riot caused by a National Guardsman defending his own life after given permission, will be the fault of the National Guard.

Because it certainly won't be the fault of the poor oppressed minorities who are being watched by the army....

Exactly. It would "never" be the fault of the rioters.

Exactly. It would "never" be the fault of the rioters.

 

I'm sorry. If your first comment was purely sarcasm, then I completely misread it. I apologize for the confusion.

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He said they are still going through homeland security training.

This must be solely the Army side of the guard because on the air force side of it, I haven't heard a peep.

Just ran across this article in regards to this:

http://www.myfoxphil...for-help-120611

 

 

That's somewhat out-dated info. They been talking about the NG and the city of Camden for years. The last time the State Police were involved, they were not allowed to do what needed to be done (IE: clean-up the town of crime properly). Their hands were tied, as I'd expect anyone's to be who are tasked with coming in.

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