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So whats the best option in .22 for something like an LCP thats NJ legal?
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On 10/1/2022 at 12:43 PM, pjd832 said:New Jersey as most of on here should be well aware believes that they are a country in and of itself, and can make up their own rules and disregard federal law as well as constitutional precident…. I have personally been hassled in New Jersey or more than once north central and south by those thinking that regardless of 218 one must have a permission slip from New Jersey.
How has this not resulted in countless lawsuits? Even more importantly, how has this not resulted in gross cop on cop violence?
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1 hour ago, Shocker said:I like RichP’s thinking and along those lines, the interwebz is saying the poissons ratio of silicon is only .2-.3. I think you want something closer to .5 (like natural rubber…or cork) so that any axial compression is matched with a radial expansion.
Locktite construction adhesive. Lol all kidding aside, someone should make a video testing these theories. I don't have much video editing experience but I'll fire the gun.
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15 hours ago, Odysseus said:I can say the accuracy has not been altered to any degree outside my shooting ability to 25yards. Based on 100 rounds.
The plugs will not fall out - they are quite difficult to remove. This would have to be confirmed periodically in case of any shrinkage.
The rounds have been left in a hot chamber for 5 minutes with no signs of melting or deforming.
Expansion has been consistent (via eyeball not caliper) on all of the water-jug & wet magazine shots. Need to order some gelatin blocks.
From a legal perspective I'm trying to limit the potential for over-penetration and unintended injuries to the innocent. NJ compliant choices are limited in the 10mm platform.
This makes me think of when I bought 500rds of that polymer coated target ammo and that nonsense shot about 3" left of every other ammo.
I dont think a bit of epoxy, polymer, etc would stop a bullet enough for pressures to warrant a "kaboom". I bet if you filled the tip of a gun with a 1/4" of jbweld the bullet would blast right though it. I'll leave it for someone else to try though.
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9 hours ago, Regular Guy said:So this "friend", who is a federal officer and can carry in any state under H.R. 218, came and applied just to tie up the Woodstown State Police officers time for fun? So they have another application to process, background check to do, references to contact, etc... for no good reason and will take that much longer to get to us who live in this area? Your "friend" can ingest a satchel of Richards and then go fornicate himself.
This makes no sense to me either. Every active Leo that I know carry in whatever state they want.
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On 9/29/2022 at 11:36 AM, JRT said:what exactly do you find unacceptable? anyone should be able to carry a gun onto a military base or into a superior court building? to a giants game section 222, row 6 at metlife?
Some guy who has an “official” clean criminal and mental history check, fancies himself a good shot after hitting 42 of 50 rounds on a Q target - has a second amendment right to strap on a gun and go anywhere he wants, anytime he wants?
There are reasonable limits to everything in a civilized society.
Shall not be....
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3 hours ago, marlintag said:This is both good and terrible news at the same time! I am glad that Middlesex is starting the issuance process but, Middlesex is one of the most populated areas in NJ and I know the court has thousands of applications. AT THE CURRENT RATE THIER MOVING IT COULD TAKE YEARS FOR MANY OF US TO GET OUR PTC.I am happy for those 10 people but, it's their issuance rate is very concerning to me. At least it confirms my conversation with Anna regarding pick up at the courthouse instead of the PD.....
I saw these this morning. So they really have no obligation of time?
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5 minutes ago, JackDaWack said:Why would you want to fill the tip with something that would alter the ballistics of the bullet in a way that is not predictable?
Sure you could fill the tip with a polymer, will it still expand though? At least manufactured ammo will have adequate testing.
Critical defense/duty, was not filled to make it "non hollow point", it was done to INCREASe expansion upon passing through heavy materials that would clogg the tip and prevent expansion... and here were are talking about doing just that on purpose?
Maybe fill them with polyurethane foam. Lol
51 minutes ago, samiam said:I guess a stronger case could be made to do this for a caliber that doesn't have Hornady Critical Defense or equivalent ammo available. For example, filling the tips of Winchester Silvertip HP .22 LR. Still, if you were somehow caught with it, I strongly suspect that the legality argument would be need to wait until after the possessor was arrested and indicted. I also wonder a bit about how far a rabidly anti-2A prosecutor might try to push the definiition of "dum dum bullet" as cited in 2C:39-3(f). Now, Hornady, along with other firearms manufacturers and their associations would no doubt contribute to the defense of any charge involving commercial ammo of that sort, but for home-made stuff you might be largely left to your own resources.
The real issue may not be getting caught with them, but what if you actually had to use them. I would think regardless of what ammunition you use, the coroner may be your worst enemy.
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Good topic to branch off from yesterday talking about .22 and how hollow points are a much better option for stopping power. What if you jbweld (or other epoxy) fill them?
1 minute ago, samiam said:Why go to all that trouble when you can buy commercial ammo that is essentially what you would be making: hollow-points with the point filled in with a soft polastic material? If it's just to prove a point, I understand, but it could get expensive by the time youtr theory is judges legally sound (assuming that even happens).
For some calibers, yeah seems like a waste.
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10 minutes ago, RadioGunner said:I’m not sure what you’re asking but yes it does suck that we can’t carry 22 hollow point
Sorry I wrote that terribly, it's been a long day. What I was basically eluding to was that .22 round nose isn't going to have much of the stopping power of hollow points so it sucks particularly for .22 edc people.
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41 minutes ago, RadioGunner said:
As much as it sucks that NJ bans conventional hollow points, critical defense and critical duty are better anyway. Critical defense will be in my short barreled EDC and duty in a longer full size.Correct me if I'm wrong, and not to turn this into a "why would/wouldn't you carry .22" but those are the real people who are beat considering the hollow point .22s do the best on ballistics test, aren't they?
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36 minutes ago, Lucky Lefty said:According to FB page Middlesex County CCW, a gentleman claims he spoke to a "Veronica" and she said the judge has "signed a few" and is having trouble getting to the permits amongst busy court schedule.
One gentleman from Middlesex chimed in and said his permit has been at the court since July 19 and it's been crickets.
After skimming through the page, I did not find anyone claiming to have received their permit yet.
Me neither.
15 minutes ago, marlintag said:I have been considering retaining an attorney to assist here in Middlesex. There just not issuing permits, a lawsuit may have to be filed to get things moving.
Wish I had the money for that.
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1 hour ago, Combat Auto said:Some of their attorneys (like Napan) are also on retainer to ANJRPC...I am not sure if they are being retained by LawShield to fight the carry issues we are dealing with or any crazy gun laws we deal with in NJ. Alternative l am (sure) they are retained by ANJRPC to fight the carry issues.
As others stated, LawShield cover SD events and equipment issues. I do not think they have a mission to correct bad carry laws explicit to NJ. As such, Napen wears two hates one for LS and one for ANJRPC. Of course there are synergies here which he can leverage.
ANJRPC is the best proponent we have here, not the NRA, and not LS, imo. Although I am a member of all 3, all my add--on donations go to ANJRPC - they are vital to our survival long-term as gun owners in NJ.
Still I joined LS a few weeks ago (in essence they are on "retainer" to their members for SD/equipment charges), I reasoned, for 130$ a year I think it is foolish not to.
1 hour ago, LeaveNJ said:Their attorneys are fighting on our behalf for all of the carry garbage that is going on right now. They are the ones challenging this stuff in court. I have US Law Shied in the event that I ever need a defense attorney if I’m ever charged in a self defense situation. I don’t expect that they take my calls and help me through the CCW permit process. Even if I never have to use them, I consider the monthly cost a contribution to the cause. These folks don’t work for free. If you want free advice, go to one of their seminars. Twelve bucks a month is a small price to pay for self defense insurance. Set your expectations accordingly.
I agree with the cost, that's why I joined.
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21 minutes ago, Mr.Stu said:US Lawshield covers legal representation if you are charged with a weapon related crime. They are not an attorney on retainer for anything else.
If you want a lawyer on retainer, retain a lawyer.
Agreed, but it seemed as though they were interested in helping with this process should trouble arise, evidence confirming this was posted in this thread.
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4 minutes ago, CapGuns&SnapsKid said:LAWSHIELD is worthless.. I called them to see about withdrawing and using my lawyer privileges. They put me on the phone the next day with an Evan Nappen lawyer and he flat out kept saying read the fine print we only advise and he didn't even advise me just said if you see the writing on the wall then withdraw...and we charge way more than 3k (that was the price I threw out there) for a denial hearing or even coming to the hearing before getting the PTC. whats the point for US lawshield again!? pffft
Jesus. I always thought it was too good to be true, but I've heard good things about them. Sorry you had this experience. I figure if it's a high enough profile case they'd be doing it for free anyway. I am a member and hopefully I never need to experience this.
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6 minutes ago, Mr.Stu said:Did you read the story? The prosecutor already knew about the post because it was the cause of a complaint and investigation when it happened.
I don't think anybody is going through Facebook logs to see if anybody is a repeat visitor to FB jail.
Yeah I read it. It said they're looking for a lawyer. Isn't that the whole point of lawshield?
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8 minutes ago, Mr.Stu said:I guess he doesn't have lawshield? I wonder if they can see my restriction history. One time I did 30 days for saying I hoped Joe Rogan skull punched Cenk Uhgar after Cenk challenged him to a fight. I'd hate to be a mma or boxing fan on FB. I'm even careful commenting on hockey now.
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1 minute ago, MikeL417 said:I been slowly purging my facebook ever since Uncle Joe got into office for these very reasons. That is some bullshit!
Honestly it's all archived anyway. Theres probably a lot more to this story. Regardless though it's SOMETHING out of Middlesex County.
Just now, Cheflife15 said:I'm just gunna delete mine until after it's done.
That looks even worse. I'm not panicking. Worst case scenario Law Shield has some work to do.
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Did anyone see this happy horseshit?
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Just now, father-of-three said:Sadly, New Jersey has no intention of compromise. They are going to try to keep things as close to their original gun control laws as possible, and they will likely be successful.
LeGaL gUn OwNeRs ArEnT tHe PrObLeM wE jUsT nEeD cOmMoN sEnSe GuN lAwS.
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There is no way this isn't a conspiracy between Murphy, the AG, Callahan, and judges. We need to get out in front of this clown if he thinks he's going to put a bid in for president.
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"If it seems like a soft-target it is and will continue to be." May as well be what the bill reads.
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12 minutes ago, TDIguy said:Bill A4502 content posted -
So basically any soft-target area where you would most likely need it. Nice.
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Ammunition and Notice
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Thank you. I watched a bunch of reviews and yeah that's true especially out of a tiny gun like an lcp2. I don't intend on carrying it often, but it is a nice alternative when dressing light. I'll look into the federal punch.