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  2. Posted

    1 minute ago, YankeeSC said:

    This is not unique to NJ.  One could make the same argument about deliberately sending illegal immigrants to Martha's Vineyard (which was a brilliant move btw).  Politics is a big chess game, and the right better be playing it 'case the left sure is.

    Did you know that if your vehicle has been sitting but you keep it registered so as to avoid all the issues that come with that, and you don't go through inspection, when you finally do you only get a sticker for time remaining? If you wait until the time completely expires you get a new two year sticker? For example my inspection was due 2/21. Yesterday I decided that I would put old girl back on the road and I got a sticker for 2/23. Yes, that's 4 months away. Not only that but they tried to chastise me for not getting it inspected. If I had waited until 2/23, I would have been given a sticker for 2/25. Not trying to derail the conversation but NJ really is f'd when it comes to nearly everything government related. 

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  6. Posted

    51 minutes ago, Combat Auto said:

    Utterly mind-boggling...I am glad Dan gave Monmouth gun owners a heads up and some advise, but I'd like to hear more about what the ANJRPC Strikeforce is doing to fight this in court. Yep, gun owners will need to lawyer up in some counties, but I'd like to see the full force of ANJRPC on this NOW!

     

    I think what the one guy commented is best. Do not agree to any restrictions. Vocalize your intent to sue. 

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  7. Posted

    8 hours ago, SJ Guns said:

    Law for police, retired police, and the rest of us are different laws.  Police and retired police have the course of fire defined.   A permit to carry a handgun does not have a defined course of fire.   Most instructors are using some modified version of the other two but all that is really required is:

    1. demonstrating "familiarity with safe handling and use" of a handgun
    2. submission of your qualification scores.

    There is no specific score required.  Again, most instructors (maybe all) are requiring 80% since that's what is required for police and retired police.

    Google NJAC 13:45-2.4(b) for the actual law. Everyone is using option #2 under this law.

    And, yes, we will need to do the whole process over every 2 years.  Fingerprints, references, qualification, new application, etc.

    It's almost like fingerprints change or something. So freaking stupid. 

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  8. Posted

    Wasn't 99% of this covered by Thomas? I don't understand how NY is getting away with what they are and I feel the same about any future infringements from NJ. These are the people who say they "support the second amendment" but easily excuse all infringements as "common sense measures". I absolutely despise those words. There is nothing common sense about any of the (gun) laws in this state. 

  12. Posted

    4 hours ago, nooch450 said:

    Honestly your only hurting the defendant vs the overreaching state.... Imagine some BS gun charge like someone caught with a loose hollow point in their car.... As a juror YOU could protect a defendant's constitutional rights from state overreach with your vote. But now the poor defendant will have to face a bundle of anti gun, uber liberals....

     

    Yes jury duty is a pain in the ass and every time I've been selected fortunately I haven't had to go however I would have, and I would have upheld the US constitution.

    Yes, who's making my mortgage payment though? Think the bank will feel bad for me?

     

    5 hours ago, IhateNJ said:

    LOL seriously you need lawshield to tell you how to get out of jury duty? Jury duty is the most basic and easy thing to avoid and I got perm removed from the jury duty pool with one simple statement  Just tell them you will use Jury nullification and nullify. Watch how fast they dismiss you and you'll probably never be selected again. I was selected once about 10+ years ago. I told them I dont have time for this crap and the second im selected the DA will get a loss as I will  nullify just out of spite for wasting my time.  I was told I was dismissed and didn;t have to show up and have never seen another jury duty slip again. 

     

    Before anyone spouts that its your "civic duty" blah blah yea just like its their duty to uphold and support the constitution and here we are now still begging to carry (all that money spent and the permit is only good for a laughable 2 years) and they are still playing games with the permits and restrictions.  As far as im concerned its only fair to do on to them as they do on to us 

    No, again my concern is that if I use the medical excuse and then have to go in front of a judge for my carry permit, can't they use that against me? Example: Can't do jury duty becuase of such and such ailment, but you want to carry a gun? You see what I'm saying?

  13. Posted

    42 minutes ago, LeaveNJ said:

    Your civic duty is to your fellow citizens, not the court.  Your beef is with the state legislators, not the citizens.  Those who dodge jury duty don’t deserve a jury.  

    I'm not dodging it. I quite literally can't afford to take a day off. Plus, I've done it twice in 10 years. I get one of these almost every year, it's just terrible timing right now. 

     

    I think quite a few of you are misunderstanding my concerns. 

  14. Posted

    1 hour ago, g17owner said:

    Is his assistant Dorothy?

    no idea. 

     

    1 hour ago, ALAN553 said:

    No way should being diabetic preclude you from absolutely anything!!!!! There is no question on the application that you would have to answer to that or anything else for that matter, heart disease, autoimmune disease, cancer….that is not mental health.

     

    One of the questions on every gun permit application is do you suffer from a physical illness. I always answer yes, and that it doesn't affect my ability to use a firearm, because it doesn't. I'm more worried that me using it as an excuse for jury duty opens the door for it to be used against me. The thing is, its not a great excuse. Me taking a week off of work and not being able to pay my newly acquired mortgage is the actual reason i don't want to go. 

     

    14 minutes ago, RadioGunner said:

    It probably was mine. 

    You should seek legal advice on that. Unless you've lost eyesight or a limb I don't see it being an issue. 

    Yeah, i'm waiting for a call back. 

  15. Posted

    Here's a good one for you guys/gals, I just handed in my paperwork on the 8th and yesterday I was sent a summons for jury duty. I can not afford the time off to sit around on my laptop for potentially a week or more. (The selection process is virtual.) I tried explaining this and the judge denied it wanting a form to verify financial hardship. They did say I could be excused as a type 1 diabetic, but I would need a note from the endocrinologist. Finally! A benefit of having this disease. I could easily get that, but my worry is that using this excuse could put my carry permit in jeopardy. I called lawshield and am waiting for a call back. This type of timing would only happen to me. For those interested its Middlesex county and the assignment judge is Michael A. Toto. I'll report back with what lawshield advises me to do. 

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  17. Posted

    2 minutes ago, marlintag said:

    That was my point in my previous posts regarding this very issue. The courts can sit on PD approved applications for months, years who knows! The whole "car carry" restriction based on what I know is more isolated to a few instances whereas in our case it's a widespread issue. Please notify strikeforce if you haven't already done so.

    I signed up for Law Shield and Anjrpc today just for this reason. I was going to anyway, but seeing as though there seem to be bizarre stories coming out, I'd rather have someone to call in the even that my application is affected. 

  18. Posted

    54 minutes ago, Variant said:

    I am going to start the process for applying now. I just called my local police department to ask for a case number to use to scheduling the fingerprinting, he says that the case number is given out after I submit the full application. Isn’t that reversed? 

    I did my prints first but my PD is very organized and noted they received them when I dropped off my paperwork. I followed the steps that were on Recoils website:

     

    Fingerprinting – All applicants must be fingerprinted for initial and renewal applications. Applicants can visit www.IDENTOGO.com to schedule an appointment. When scheduling, the applicant must provide the investigating agencies ORI# (contact your local PD for a number), a fingerprint service code (2F164B), and a contributors case number (Use the applicants last name, month, day, and year of application. Example: John Doe applied on Jan 8, 2022. Contributor Case Number: Doe010822.) Fingerprint results must be received within ninety (90) days of application.

  19. Posted

    5 minutes ago, Variant said:

    Where does Nappen teach that do you have a duty to retreat in your home (which is the exact polar opposite of a castle doctrine which New Jersey has)? 

    Maybe he doesn't anymore but I was at a seminar years ago and he said if you have a backdoor and it's accessable you better retreat out of it. Maybe I heard it out of context. Idk. 

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  20. Posted

    1 minute ago, JRT said:

    I just spoke to a Det. Sgt. from a Cape May County Municipal PD who has processed 10-15 in his town.  He told me, "WHAT HE HEARD" (not gospel) was that for Atl. & CMC, the judges don't want to look at them and approve them - so what they are doing is having a clerk make a pile and once they hit 60 days or 90 or whatever it is, they are going to approve by default, not review and approve.  He speculated that this might somehow give the judge an "out" if something goes down with the permit holder - i.e.  Judge can say  "I didn't review and approve it, It was automatically approved statutorily pursuant to N.J.S.A. 2C:58-4c."

    This is what he said - I am not stating this as fact !

    If someone can prove that it seems like a removable offense. They don't want to do their job? 

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  21. Posted

    9 hours ago, 10X said:

    Taken at home with my phone, using a suitable neutral wall as background.  Uploaded to Walgreens photo center, using their 4x4 collage template on a 4”x4” print 

    Total cost 53 cents. 
     

    Each photo in the collage prints out at about 1.8” square, so leave enough blank space around your head to allow trimming to 1.5” square.  Untrimmed, the photos might pass for 2x2”, but I think the consensus has been they really should be 1.5 sq. 

    I had to renew my Utah and took a "selfie" against a white cinderblock wall. They accepted it and now my Utah permit looks like a prison photo. Lol

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  22. Posted

    6 hours ago, 124gr9mm said:

    If you've lived in NJ you've never carried one. How do you reconcile that with what you posted above?  You've NEVER carried one but your clear implication is that you must carry at all times.

    I've carried in other states but not 100% of the time I was there. 

    I know gun guys, leos, former service members who don't carry all the time either.

    I go to bars, restaurants, school events, and other places where I can't carry. I could choose to NOT go to those places and live in fear because I can't bring sun with me, but I choose to go out. 

     

    I know people who have carried in NY/NJ without a permit. Some people really don't mind taking the risk becuase they'd rather carry than be carried. I've personally carried at my business and on my property for quite some time. I was threatened with a firearm and since that day I've stretched my rights without breaking any major laws. 

     

    6 hours ago, samiam said:

    Just to play devil's advocate, didn't you potentially make the case for carrying "sometimes" with your observations about certain situations where carrying would have made you feel a hell of a lot better?. Are you not already evaluating degress of risk vs. reward in other aspects of your daily behavior? I do that constantly.  As I mentioned in a previous post, I know of no way to carry while swimming or surfing, I doubt if any permit holder will carry while showering after a work-out at the local gym (I very much doubt he or she will even be carrying while working out there). I'm sure there are many other examples of situations where carrying would be impossible or improbable. BTW, I don't wear my seat belt when I turn my car around in our driveway, and I frequently don't immediately put it on when I am starting to move my car in a retail parking lot after leaving a store. Why? Because the speed is very low, other moving vehicles may not be present, and as a result the risk of serious injury in the unlikely event of a collision is also low. It is also easier for me to swivel my head around to see to back out without the shoulder belt secured.

    I don't surf and I don't go to the gym. The amount of time I will spend in "gun free zones" isn't much to begin with. Again maybe when I'm doing something at my kids school, but my buddy is a cop there and he is always armed. I have cars without seatbelts and it is what it is, you're missing the point, if you have them why wouldn't you utilize them? Yeah I get it, varying degrees of risk and all... 

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  23. Posted

    4 hours ago, 124gr9mm said:

    No, I'm pragmatic in my approach to it.

    I've lived most of my adult life in NJ where I was not able to carry a pistol.  That meant that if I wanted to go anywhere outside my home I could not carry a pistol with me.  I didn't cower in fear because I didn't have a pistol on me.  I lived my life.

    Being able to carry a pistol doesn't change my life at all.  If I get a permit I'll carry when i feel it's necessary.

    For now I'll have to accept that there are limitations to where/when/how I'll be able to carry.  Those limitations will be constantly challenged in court (and many likely overturned) but until then I'll follow the law.

    Wringing my hands and complaining about where I CAN'T carry at this point seems absurd to me.

    I don't cower in fear either but I've been in some situations where having a firearm would have made me feel a hell of a lot better. Especially at work counting money or selling stuff on craigslist and whatever. I don't understand why anyone would carry a gun "sometimes" or "when I feel like it". The whole point is to carry it at all times. I mean, to each their own and you're free to do whatever you want, but that's like saying you'll wear your seatbelt sometimes. 

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  25. Posted

    3 hours ago, samiam said:

    I am not clear on one aspect of Gizinski's prohibition of carrying while driving or riding in a vehicle. Does that include sitting in the driver's or passenger's seat when the vehicle is parked? Because if it does include that state (and I didn't read anything in her order that would indicate otherwise) then you couldn't unholster the gun and put it a locked container without first exiting the vehicle. Under many circumstances, that could make it a major challenge to accomplish without being observed (downtown, retail district, on an early evening during the height of holiday shopping season?). I think that is the kind of scenario being comtemplated here. Also, Lostboy has posted elsewhere about how to carry in compliance when riding a motorcycle. How would you disarm yourself and secure the weapon in that case? IMO there are very legitimate concerns.

    I am interpreting it to mean exactly this. Sitting in the car would constitute carrying inside a motorvehicle. I'm not really so concerned with breaking a law as much as I am giving them probable cause to search and seize for no other reason than someone saw something. I don't know the law word for word, but neither do police officers. My point is, why even give them an excuse? The less people that know you're carrying the better. 

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