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No, no other vehicle was involved.

I'm kind of ahead of you on this one. Was at court last night and the prosecutor said that since there was an injury (me) and insurance was involved, there was nothing he could do for me. I'd like to talk to a lawyer to at least find out what my options are.

Greetings, I was in a motorcycle accident on Nov 25th, the day after Thanksgiving. Was on Clinton Road in West Milford. In the accident, I wound up w/ 3 broken ribs, collar bone and wrist. A couple of weeks after the accident, I received a summons by mail. The town is charging me w/ careless driving. I went to W. Milford court last night and the prosecutor said that since I was injured and the insurance was now involved, the charge can not be plead down. I plead not guilty and am now on the hunt for a lawyer. I'd rather not say anymore in relation to the actual event, but suffice it to say, I think I'm being screwed heavily. Can anyone recommend a lawyer to consult with? Thanks, Ken P.S. - It really really sucks not being able to shoot

+1 I've got an AR10 A4 (fullsize standard 20" barrel w/ A2 stock) that's non free floated. Off of a bench shooting South African surplus M80, it will hold 1.5 - 2 MOA at 100 yards for 10 rounds....not great, but far from bad. One major reason I went w/ Armalite was the offering of factory 15rnd mags. Using GenII mags, I've never had a malf in 700 or so rounds. Not that much, but 7.62x51 ain't cheap. Armalite periodically has sales on their mags for roughly $30 or so. I have 11. I understand Armalites carbines use the equivalent of a midlength gas tube vs. DPMS's carbine length gas tube. I understand the Armalite has somewhat less recoil as a result. Also, if you ever want uber accuracy, Noveske's uppers are based on the Armalite AR10 platform.

Interesting. I see more and more PD's switching to some flavor of .45. My buddy is an LEO in Edgewater. They switched from the 357Sig in a Glock 32 to the Glock 21 a couple of years ago. I have an M&P45 that I picked up used. Can't say I shot that great with it. Need more practice with it. Mikeyboy, did your M&P have the blued or raw steel firing pin? I broke the FP in my M&P40, but it had the old blued striker. I now have the latest Gen striker, which looks like a raw steel finish. I understand it's rated for something like 90,000 dry fires. I hope I start seeing .45 overruns like I do on .40 ammo.

I've got a smattering of a variety pistols. Currently, in .40, I own a Gen 4 G23, M&P40F and a CZ75SA. I've owned and sold a Beretta 96 Centurian and a Gen3 G22. I've shot a variety of P series Sigs as well. The G4 G23 and M&P are my current fav's. Recoil, while a bit more stout than 9mm, is doable and w/ practice, controllable as well. I would say for a new manufacture .40, either Glock or M&P. If you're willing to go used, consider P series Sigs as well. I currently have a purchaser's permit and I'm somewhere between a Gen4 G19, G21, G22, G35 or another M&P w/ thumb safety. I will say this though. IMHO, the M&P is not the best out of the box pistol I've ever had. If you're willing to polish the trigger related internals and add some flavor of aftermarket or Pro sear ( I have the Apex sear), the gun gets, or rather the trigger gets really nice. Also, for me, I had to do some sanding on the grip to get a better handhold on the grip. In my mind, the leading attribute of the M&P is the controllability in shooting quickly. At just under a "rapid fire" pace (since the Bullet Hole doesn't allow rapid fire), the M&P blows just about everything else out of the water in front sight tracking and controllability. I find the Glock to be more accurate though. The Glock, aside from night sights, doesn't need anything. Having said that, I put in a smooth face trigger and also polished the internals. I've owned and sold a couple of XD's. Wouldn't get another one. I see some folks say that .40 is more expensive, and if you shop at your local gun store, it is. However, look at places like SG Ammo. They typically have contract overruns on .40 in FMJ and top tier defensive ammo that are cheaper than what you can get 9mm for.

I currently have... .22lr 6 (2 pistol, 4 rifle) 9mm 9 pistols + 1 conversion barrel .40 3 pistols .45 3 pistols .223/5.56 3 rifles/carbines .308/7.62 1 rifle The idea of getting into other calibers definitely interests me. The thought of financing them makes me cringe. Handgun, I'd consider 357/38, 45LC, 10mm, 5.7 and 357 Sig. Rifle, the 6.5 Grendal really interests me, followed my .260 Rem/6.5 Creedmore as a distant 2nd. 30-06, .300 Whisper and a lever action in 357/44mag sound interesting too. Still have to get a shotgun.

I use.... Police Products 540 Ravine Court Wycoff, NJ 201-447-2900 Ask for Greg, nice guy. It's a little hole in the wall place, but he sometimes gets a bunch of police trade ins. His business is selling gun cleaning solutions for PD's. $40 includes NICS

Very very nice choice. I have one on the way and should be picking it up next week. I held one at Bullet Hole and really liked the fit. I've been through Glocks, XD's and M&P's. Still have the Glocks and M&P's, but have very high hopes for the Walther. I've read nothing but great reviews on the PPQ. Can't wait to put some rounds through. Again, congrats on a great choice of plastic. BTW, I think it's a fantastic looking pistol.

Occupy RTSP ?

I'm in, and I could possibly get my buddy.

Maybe I missed it, but is this range members only, or open to the public as well?

Do what you want but, this post is from 5 years ago. I've bought 15rnd mags from G&R at $27/mag. I thought their service was excellent. I would buy from then again in a heartbeat.

I bought my 15rnd mags from G&R. Grant was incredibly helpful in getting me that shipment pronto. Excellent service!!!

Which FFl and how much did they charge, did you guys use to bring the pistol in?

Greetings all, I'd like to get the crowds thoughts on this sample of SIG pistoliciousness!!! It is German made w/ the higher quality bits. I have a '96 P226 that I like, and more importantly, the wife loves . Also being that I have 2 PP's to burn and I'm kind of Glock'ed and M&P'ed, and well PLASTIC'ed out, I really digging the idea of this pistol. Don't get wrong, I love my G19's and the M&P I have is really growing on me, but, well, I could kind of justify to the wife that it would be a perfect compliment to "her" P226, and it would be for "her" :derisive: In seriousness, my buddy is a SIG'aholic and his P229 .40 from '96 or so, is really nice. I've had the opportunity to handle and shoot the thing a bit recently and the trigger is really smooth. He put Hogue G10 grips on it w/ Meprolights and the thing is a dart shooter. My cousin has a P229 9mm that I've shot a couple of times and it feels like I'm shooting my P226. Really nice handling pistol. As a comparison, I've shot a P228 a few times and if felt snappier than a P229 9mm. Thoughts????

Some questions for you... How is a grip typically too large you? In other words, is the grip too big lengthwise, girthwise, length to trigger, other? For myself, I find the main criteria of at least being able to reach the trigger being flush on the pad on my trigger finger, the first component to shooting a pistol accurately. I have med-lrg hands and grip feel is important as well. Something to consider also, you mention you are thinking of a single stack as an option. While true, the typical grip circumference may be thinner, recoil typically while be felt more. I believe it's because the recoil has a smaller area to dissipate across vs. the typically wider grip of a double stack mag. Aside from all that.... Choices I would recommend a look at... HKP7(M8) - The gun is a little odd since you have to compress the front strap of the grip and hold it there to fire. This is the manual safety system of the pistol. It is a single stack 8 shot 9mm. There have a slew of the older P7 and P7 PSP models that have come in as used from the German police forces. These are available used in the $550 and up area. It is an exceptionally accurate pistol w/ a consistent trigger pull. Sig P225/P6 - Also an 8 shot 9mm developed around the same time in the 70's for German police trials as the HK P7 and Walther P5. I had one based on stellar reviews and wound up selling it as I found the grip comfortable but to too small to be stable on. It's basically a single stack version of the venerable Sig P228, which holds 13rnds in a double stack mag. The 225 is the American flavor w/ thumb activated mag release. The P6 is the German police version w/ heal mounted mag release. P225's are probably in the $550 and up for new, while the P6's I've seen sold as surplus in the $300'ish and up zone. Walther P5 - The next generation of the Walther P38/P1. Single stack 9mm that is very refined and accurate. Like the P6 & P7, also a single stack 9mm. Glock Gen4 G19 or G26 - I have 4 pre Gen4 Glocks and a Gen4 G23 (same physical size as the G19). Like others have said, the grip is 2mm smaller from back strap to front strap/trigger face. It doesn't sound like much, but it does make a huge difference. I'd seriously give a hard look at this one. Browning High Power - Of all the pistols l've listed, take a look at this one. As others have mentioned, the grip is just about the smallest you could make on a double stack and it is very comfortable. I had one that I bought new and then sold for a 1911. To be fair, the pistol had the worst trigger I've felt on a pistol and I got hammer bite as I've got a meaty area in the web of my hand. If your hand is small, the hammer bite shouldn't be a factor. If you, or your husband is handy, I understand there are drop in parts from Cylinder & Slide which really help the trigger pull. CZ P-01/PCR - You mentioned you really liked your husbands. Perhaps a more compact model of the same? I find the CZ's very likeable pistols as well. Walther PPQ - Sort of Glock 19 sized w/ an excellent trigger and accuracy w/ multiple backstraps. Sig P229/P228 w/ E2 grip - Excellent accuracy and reliablity. The E2 grip really slims it down. I have an older P226 (fullsize 9mm) that I put the E2 grip on and it made a big difference. HK P2000/USP Compact - These pistols offer excellent accuracy and reliability. The P2000 has multiple backstraps. HK's are known for being relatively expensive w/ expensive mags. They are also known for being exceptionally tough and accurate. Off the top of my head, I can't think of any more examples of small 9mm pistols before going into the realm of single stack 9mm's designed for carry. In this class, recoil will be more pronounced and sight radius reduced. I don't have a pistol in this class, but I'd look at the Walther PPS or some flavor of Kahr.

Interesting thread.... I have a Gen4 G23, Gen2 G19, Gen3 G19 (bought in early 2010), Gen3 G26 and Gen2 G17. I have about 825 rounds or so on the G4 G23 w/ zero issues. Right now, I would be hesitant to get a Gen4 G19 w/out the understanding that there may be issues w/ possible parts replacement. I've replaced the trigger bar w/ a G17 Gen3 unit w/ new tab for the trigger spring and polished the internals, along w/ Mep's night sights. I LOVE the slightly smaller grip frame, new texture and the "feel" of the pistol. By that I mean, it feels more precise in all its actions...trigger pull, slide movement, shooting it, etc. I wish the G4 G19's were up to snuff as I would already have one. Seriously contemplating a Gen4 G22 and G21 for the next additions to the Glock family. BTW, my favorite and oldest of my collection is the Gen2 G19. Mine had the slide replaced since I blew out the breach area from thousands of dry fire repetitions w/out snap caps. It also has the Gen3 G17 smooth faced trigger and polished internals and has Trijicon NS's. Actually, all my Glocks now have the Gen3 G17 trigger bar w/ polished internals. I also, just barely shave down the trigger safety to be more flush w/ the trigger face when pulled. Someone mentioned that the only differences between the Gen4 and previous are the new grip frame and dual recoil spring. Not true. The G4's have a different barrel, slide, ejector, extractor, trigger bar, mag release and take down spring (there may be more parts, just can't think of them).... in addition to the aforementioned. I do not know if a Gen4 upper will work on a pre Gen4 lower. Someone mentioned the mushy trigger. All personal taste I guess, but I LOVE the triggers on my Glocks. Once learned, they are fantastic. Do they have the finesse of finely tuned 1911 trigger? No, but nothing else does either. They have excellent reset, a distinct and predictable break and can be made to feel better w/ the G17 smooth faced trigger. Not to say they are the best trigger available in a pistol, but again, once learned, they are very effective. I've tried the earlier version of the Lone Wolf 3.5 connector, as well as the Glock 4.5 connector (formerly 3.5 connector) and went back to the stock connector in all instances. Someone mentioned the bad ergo's. Purely subjective. I like the ergos. I also like the relatively blocky feel of the grip as it allows me excellent purchase to pull the grip into my palm in a very repeatable way. Conversely, I do not like the rounded grip of the M&P as I feel I have a hard time getting a consistent grip on it.

I can understand about the M&P being an "almost". I have an M&P40 w/ M&P9 barrel and mags. I've installed the Apex sear and polished the internals and relieved the area under the trigger guard (this made a bigger difference than I would have thought in handling). I've also got an M&P45 that I picked up used recently and did the polish and Apex sear install. I view the M&P as a platform that begs for customization, more'so than a Glock. Out of the box, I don't find the M&P that great. It's good, but not great. The trigger is nothing to write home about and the ergo's are an "almost" for me. If you're willing to twiddle w/ the pistol, it can be evolved into a very capable platform though. The following is purely subjective, but in my view, aside from changing out the crappy stock sights, the Glock doesn't need anything else done to it, whereas for me, the M&P does. I hear the Gen4 crowd getting riled up here, but that's another story. I have no doubt any Gen4 issues will be resolved by Glock in the very near future. The TWO things I think the M&P does outstanding, at least my M&P, is put rounds down range rapidly and accurately and come to line of sight effortlessly. I think it competes very well with and possibly edges out some competing Glock models in fast combat shooting. I think it also depends on the models compared. I will say this though, since starting to do my daily dry fires w/ the M&P, my Glock performance has dropped a smidge. To me, Glocks are a platform that you have to be very faithful to in order to be "on" with. Having said all this, I still shoot for accuracy better w/ a Glock.

Well said!

I have a USP45F. I had an opportunity to shoot 5 rounds through a USP9C one time at the Bullet Hole. It's rare I pick up a non-familiar pistol and shoot really well with it. This was one of those pistols. If I ever come across one when I have the cash handy, this would very high on my list.

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Well said. I own 3 16" AR15's and a 20" Armalite AR10. I have no direct experience on what actual bullet effects are past 200 yards, and even then, it's all about holes in paper. I've read some threads on M4carbine.net that went into .308/7.62 vs. 223/5.56. There are accounts of lethal hits being made at 800 yards from an M4. Would I rather be hitting w/ a .308 at 800 yards? Yes, I do believe the .308 has more "effect" at distance. How to quantify that "effect" is the hard thing. Is it enough to put a hole in something at that distance or greater? If that's the case, then yes, the 5.56 will suffice. Some of the new wizz bang 5.56 loads are very interesting, but cost wise, you're getting into .308 territory. Having said that, the AR15's excellent ergonomic platform, coupled w/ the light recoiling 5.56/.223 does provide for a great user interface for shooting quickly and accurately. This is sort of like the .45 / 9mm argument. Are you of the opinion that the heavier recoiling greater mass bullet is the way to go, or the lighter weight lower recoiling bullet, with the idea of possibly more hits on target is preferred? Is the focus having the greater mass of the .308 load at that distance? I don't know. Again, I haven't been there to assess. I will say that I believe that greater mass of the .308 load allows for more forgiveness in effectiveness, especially at distance. Another piece of the puzzle is, what is the effective range of the 5.56/.223? I've read convincing arguments, from those that have been there, that the max effective range is anywhere from 400-600 yards. Yes, the .223/5.56 can accurately hit past that, but it's effectiveness, however that's defined, doesn't seem ideal at longer than 500-600 yards. BTW, from a 16" barrel, the Black Hills Mk 262 Mod 1 round gets to just over 800 yards before it goes transonic. I believe from a 20" barrel, you are right around 900 yards. It seems that on a lot of threads that I've read from the more known and respected names on M4carbine.net, and maybe I'm wrong, but I get the feeling that most prefer the 5.56. I really don't like thinking that I'm speaking for those folks, but, and again, these are MY observations, the idea of rapid follow up shots, light weight, more ammo for a given weight, out to 800 yards or so, supercedes the higher impact power of the .308. I have a lot of respect for those folks, but for me, I'd PREFER a 14.5" - 16" for the closer in stuff and a .308 at anything past 300 or so yards. I could live with 2 5.56's in a 14.5-16" version and a 18-20" better barreled version for the longer stuff, or just one really accurate 16" setup.

Glad I could help. If you are in need of a Glock / M&P sight pusher, let me know. I'm in Bergen County as well.

My buddy and I just went through this. The Sig sight pusher is not compatable w/ Glocks and the Glock sight pusher is not compatable w/ Sigs. I have seen Universal sight pushers, but have no direct experience w/ them. If it matters, the M&P sight pusher is compatable w/ the Glock 9/40 frames.