Shane45

OK Ill aim to the right then LOL

Im gonna punch you in the nuts when I see you!!!

Well houston we have a problem. Ray I got no email or PM from you that you would take one.So let me do a head count of checks and units etc etc and get it sorted out...You wanted low mount I take it? The office aint going to know one from another so Ill have to sort it out.

Yes they are!

NO IT IS NOT. Specifically targeting a family causing emotional distress to an individual family is NOT what the 1st amendment is about. And frankly I dont know how they get away with this because it is doing harm to another. Much the same it is not OK to put peole in harms way by yelling fire in a theater......

Justjules, please dont confuse legal obligation with moral obligation. In this crowd it will not be recieved well.

and 1000% more durable than black ox...

Lots of potential, a little light on execution IMO.

Unfortunatly that has not been my experience!!!!!

Well...to not police our own can be equally as damaging. But at this point I am under the impression that Rayco has taken corrective action on these issues?

The Ram is a 2011. I dont think I even broke 10k yet . My last Camaro was a restored hopped up 69. Same color scheme as the new one. But its been gone a while now but I returned to bikes in the mean time. Been jonesing for a nice 70 Chevelle lately though! Anytime. Let me know how you make out!

Hehehe, my daily ride is the slow one in the back. LOL they just happen to be in order from least to most driven!

HA you pretty much described all my associated optics for my 308. For it I have: Acog TA11H-G (working on a proto BU RDS) US Optics 1.5-6 Hensholdt 4-16 PVS14 The only one not on a QD mount is the USO but it will be in the near future.

Ray, so your telling me that someone in the business needs to have the law hand delivered to them by someone not in the business? If I have to teach the class then I dont need the teacher!

sighewa, I know brother Still exploring the question. Its good information and discussion.Interestingly I have found Optics to be a BIG consideration in where the rifle lands, weight wise using my criteria of >10lbs = DMR and <10lbs being multi role. And the limitations of each type of optic is a big consideration as well. I have yet to find the holy grail of optics that can do it all well enough to make it truly well suitedin both roles with little compromise..

Meh.. everyone has a dud. My bet is this is a production unit during the time or right after the Hogan POF split.

Why do you like them? In the case of your POF its required in that system to clear the piston system. But in the case of the GAP its DI so there is no real benefit that I can see to having such a high rail height. Hey I dont like the OBR rail system either because of its built in cant and I dont like the integral front sight in the SR25

I have had a number of GAP rifles but for the life of me I cant warm up to the GAP-10. Im just not a fan of the POF rail system

Roger that, but I think the holy grail, what I call a multi role rifle, is achievable. Although humping the mass is certainly an issue, running the rifle is where I wrestle with the weight. Shooting on the scoot with a heavier rifle induces a lot more bob and weave, at least for me.

Wojo, given your criteria I think it narrows the field a bit but this is based on a notion I have about rifle weight. Its my opinion that over 10lbs your in DMR territory and although you can possibly run it like an m4 it is less than ideal. For that holy grail we persue I believe the farther under 10lbs the better, but it has to be sub 10 kitted up. Bolt anything to that Sig and it will be well over 10. The rifles I think/know can pull it off are: SR25 EMC (your wallet will scream!!!) SCAR17 (Mags can be an issue) Larue PredatOBR (Not a fan of Larue products but know many who are happy with their rifles) JP LRP 07 (configured as a light weight rifle)(I know the least aboutt this rifle of the 4 but have heard it can be had in a very light config)

Wojo, to me the relevent question is simply, do you want a DMR style 308 or something as close to run and gun as you can get?

Well.... it is a subject worthy of debate I think. Is it a good idea to rebuild all those towns that keep getting flooded out because they are built on a flood plain below sea level such as many of the areas destroyed by katrina and spend many more millions upon millions to build barriers to protect them? I understand trying to protect towns that either found theirselves afflicted because no one knew any better when they were built 200 years ago but in the case of beaches I think it is different. I think it would be more like the taxpayers buid levy's and walls and create a utopia and your not allowed to go to the town and the property values top the charts as a result of the taxpayer effort. Here is an article likely far better articulating the concerns and issues. http://www.erosion.com/60million.asp

Ray I didnt miss a msg from you did I?

I disagree with this position. If you privatly own it, then you can privatly fund it! But the sea walls, dredging, replenishment etc etc is tax funded, not privatly funded. So would that make it royalty? When the many pay for the pleasures of the few?

It looks like the aimpoints are 1 week out from delivery.