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To scary dropping that kind of coin on a co thats gone out of business twice now. And I thought you said American! The power plant pushing that bike down the road is from Austria! At least tthe frame is made here, just not by Buell. I think Ill stick with the bikes predominantly made by the manufacturer And I really never like to be the first to by an entirely new model. Ill stick with my pasta power for now

BTW if you ever decide you dont dig the thumb hole, you can get different skins for it. http://www.victorcompanyusa.com/viperskins.html They also make the accustack which is nice. Since you have a 1.5 its nice for when you have to pull your bolt for cleaning.

Meh, his rant never realy bothered me. Seen it a bazzillion times in little shops with big backlogs... it happens. Prior to that diatribe when Terra was there CS was, dare I say it, very very good. To me the deat toll is when customers with problems get toldits somehow their fault. They skirted on the ragged edge of this from what Ive seen. But in the end the question becomes why risk it with a role of the dice on CS?

Of which ride do you speak?

I think this summer is going to be a steller riding season!

Its an additional crime for guns too, so maybe thats too much trouble as well

My daily driver, the Ram is 310 The Camaro is a tick over 400 The Duck is 160 The M109 is a tic over 120

Peasants need rifles too

Does your shotty have a pic rail on it? If we have any left around the shop you could go with the low mount.

"Addition - to self defense use... I would suggest frangabile ammo vs hollowpoints in my opinion." Based on what do you make such a recomendation?

drifter, thats like saying the dealership is responsibe for selling the car to someone that ran someone over with it. I have no problem if a business makes a concious decision to sell or not sell an item. But politely state the choice. Dont represent fiction as fact or demean someone for choosing to not be a sheep.

Drifter, there is NO LAW against the sale/purchase and use of hollowpoint ammunition at the range. If the guy THAT WORKS IN THE INDUSTRY didnt know that AND took a tude, he is well deserving of the negative review. Its people like this that greatly perpetuate the myth and muddy the waters for everyone. Think about how many customers may have been told that and now believe it to be true.

A word on iron sites. They vary. However, it really doesnt make much of a difference. This mount and optic is set up for true cowitness. That means that the optic is intended to be centered with the irons. But it could be a tiny bit high or low depending on which irons you have. But in the end that variance dont really make much of a difference because your either focusing on the dot or the irons, not really both. FWIW I like the true co-wit for the T1 series but I prefer lower 1/3rd for the M3/M4 series. YMMV.

Yes they will be black.

Where's your check? And no I will not put a zombie logo on the side!

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That is too high. 6lbs = 72 inch pounds. spec calls for 65 inch pounds.

I prefer pissing in someone's cheerios thank you very much . It has been my experience that an AICS (obviously) cant make a crappy barrel shoot, but on a decent barreled action they can shrink up groups over an unbedded stock. So I was hoping for a little before and after to see if it worked out that way for the op. I have also seen it go the other way but this has been traced back to improper installation.(think torque values). I have also seen some play with the torque values front to back and achieve some interesting results with improving accuracy. I like the feel of a McMillan A5 better but not enough to sway me from the excellent AI mag system. The only two things I didnt like about the AICS is that it has a very distinct (annoying) ring to it when fired. And I founfd it very heavy. I never put em side by side on a scale but my AICS with a 20" barreled action felt a lot heavier than my AIAW with a 26" barrel. Go figure..

How did it shoot in the factory stock?

They do not. And this makes it a rather expensive proposition. So lets say your at about $2100 for the rifle, then you need a compliant brake. So add another 165 because your not putting jumk on a 2k rifle. Now you need it modified. Add say...$150. And the transfer and nics so say $41. So your in for almost $2500.

Spotty customer service is a valid concern. Especially after their star customer support person, Terra, was no more

1) 1 year warranty - SERIOUSLY? I'm not buying this gun on that alone. I can get a longer warranty on a freakin washer/dryer combo Same warrenty as a Knights Armament or my $6K DTA SRS. What matters is how the handle it after warr but the way people are these days, I can understand this approach. 2) $200 for cerakote - talk about stickin it to the consumer. You're assembling the gun right there and have facilities to do it for less than half that price I dont know where your getting it done but any reputable coater doing ceracote is usually around 350/400. So 200 to me is a very fair deal IMO. 3) $1780 without sights. Add sights and you're up around $2000...may as well buy a SCAR Your going to the manufacturer!!!!! How would it look for him if he undercut his dealer network. He by default has to be the highest price. Talk to Tony at TJ's Sporting arms. If Im not mistaken he is a non stocking Robarm dealer that can likely order you one. I paid no where near retail for mine with sites etc etc. I would take an XCR over a franken AR any day. I would (and did) take a SCAR over the XCR. I would take a KAC SR15 over the XCR too. So its not piston snobery "Thanks to those who offered feedback. For those considering, think twice" I dont mean to take you to task here but you are warning others about a rifle you have no experience with and championing ones you also have no experience with. This puzzles me.

You need an FFL that is willing to bring one in and that can either do the work or will at least pin the stock and let you take the upper to someone that can do that side of it.

Bump to try and make sure everyone got the information....