Shane45

Remember I warned you guys about MSAR almost 2 years ago.............

1)AGREE 2)AGREE 3)AGREE 4)AGREE and glocks have a NPA like doo doo for some of us

I admit to skiming this thread but its a topic ive discussed a million times. My take. The 1911 was designed at a time when labor was cheap and technology was expensive. Machining the parts made out of the right materials was the expensive part. The group of old men that assembled them for 25 years was the cheap part. Today technology is the cheap part and labor is the expensive part, and MANY manufactureres try and get by with either cheap forign labor or skipping the labor under the guise of more precise technology. But in my opinion the 1911 simply wasnt designed to be built that way. And so in my opinion there is a bottom line for what a quality, properly functioning 1911 can be built for. A quality built 1911can be sufficiently tight AND reliable if it is built right. But that is the key. I understand the concept of economy of scale. But just how much can that account for the price of a pistol? I get a pretty signiificant discount on things and I still spend in the neighborhood of 1200 bucks for the parts to build a 1911. Then I put about 200 hours into it. Yes a portion of those hours are spent on cosmetics such as removing tooling marks etc etc but even if you half it, thats a lot of labor! So how does a 1911 for 500 bucks calculate? So the tons of manufacturers out there not building to a minimum standard or hedging their bets on ones that seem to run right vs the ones that need to be returned to be fixed give 1911's a bad name. But the squirt and jerk pistols are not without issue either! In fact if I compare my 2010 IDPA season, I witnessed more sigs and glocks go down than 1911's. Im talking about a failure that takes them out of the match. Broken locking bars. Sigs spitting out their extractors etc etc. Yes this is probably a sample data to small to really give full weight to, but it makes a point.

Ahhh that link makes sense. Forgot about that thread but my brains mush today. Replacing my HW heater till 3am and then was up at 6:45 to go to the range today.

Nino, do me a favor. Take one full mag and cycle all the rounds through the action and tell me if it ejects all live rounds reliably....

Here's mine. But she can also shoot 338LM

BLF, not tracking a link to a battle rifle thread in a precision rifle thread????

The only advantage I can think of for dropping the weight of the slide is speeding up the cycling for light loads for competitions like steel matches where they are running low power loads and light springs.

http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=62889

Both. I did, Ill see if I can dig it up again...

One of the things that swayed me to the SCAR was an entire, very detailed failure analysis done by a freind of mine that does this type of analysis for a living. The other was another guy I know who dumped 5k rounds through his without cleaning it...ever. Carbon oosed out of every orrafice!

The battle proven part does mean something to me because simply if they perform well there, then I can expect the same. Same thing for rifle systems that hold up well in hard use classes. Personally I dont chase new, I chase what I view as worthy improvement or inovation. And although new, I like a lot of the inovations of the new Beretta. But as usual I wont bepaying the early adopter tax. I will wait and see how it holds up and tap my inside scources for the scoop. Odds are if I buy it, I have inside info from behind the fence on how well it did As for the ACR, I like the look, but I really dislike the handling.

Same how? the ACR hasn come anywhere remotely close to the testing the SCAR has been through, isnt adopted for service anywhere, and has no battle proven history behind it. If you cant justify the SCAR because this is NJ, then it doesnt make sense to me you could justify a reworked ACR???

Ray Id take an M&P over a Glock ANY DAY!!! Its not even a matter of liking one brand better than the other. Its simply the natural point of aim of a glock for me is about 6 feet over the target due to the grip angle. The S&W points much more naturaly, for me anyway.

So far Im in for teh DTA SRS in 308 and 338LM and an HK USP Compact. Likely going to pick up a M&P compact in 357 sig too. I know, I know what the hell is the 1911 guy doing picking up crunch and tickers?!?! The answer, I can run the HK like a 1911 and the M&P is for the wife to shoot.

Looks like a good size order is going down for SCARS of each type. I hear production is going to be entirely consumed by mil contracts for a while.... https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=25398bbee12496a7a88b87b3123b2d3e&tab=core&_cview=0

David, Naaa, I can always get another, my FN connections run pretty deep. KDP, or your doing demos with a class 3 dealer :D

A happy switch makes it the most fun

I didnt find ammo to be appreciably more expensive. On avg 21 bucks for 60 rounds of 5.56, 19ish for 50 5.7. I have fired the P90. I think its an excellent tool for a very narrow scope of use. On to the civy PS90, I think its a great little weapon. Its awesome as a truck/pack rifle. Its 26.5 inches, truly ambi and just plain usefull and very fun. But you know a however was coming right? Having to live with 10 round mags in NJ as opposed to 50 in free america, kills much of the appeal so I sold it. Here is my boy firing it.

Slide to frame fit isnt all that important....particulerly in a combat oriented handgun. If you are a bullzeye shooter looking for 10/10ths accuracy then I can understand the pursuit.

I have the constitutional right to not get shot in the head by some jackass too. After much consideration trying to find a balance between public safety and 2A freedoms and concern over abuse of such a requirement, the conclusion I believe works for all is a class requirement that the pass or fail is based on attendance. But I do believe there should be a training requirement. I will gladely sit through a class so that people like the one in the article have to as well. It is these people that will cost us our rights! Disclaimer. This opinion is my own and does not reflect the official position of NJ2AS on the subject.

It was a neat novelty. But being stuck behind enemy lines killed much of the fun. If I lived somewhere it was allowed to fold and I could SBR it Id probably still have it. That and if their customer service didnt suck a big fat one!

I HAVE GOT TO GET ME ONE OF THOSE CLEAR LOWER RECIEVERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Unfortunatly that is as I understand it, otherwise my safe would be overflowing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I like the vid idea better