Dan

Gotcha, i'm not quite there... yet

Makes sense! I'll be adding one of these to my tool chest.

It depends if the criminal justice system accepts "collecting" as a "lawful purpose" for owning it. Like many of the firearm laws in NJ, it opens the door for prosecution if they so choose to pursue.

Interesting. I've yet to encounter a new brass case not at the proper length. What brand brass are you using?

My operation consists of full length sizing every round, then measuring with a caliper to determine if trimming is needed. Would this product make the measuring part easier/quicker? It seems the added bonus is being able to determine the condition of your rifle's headspace by using this on fired brass before re-sizing. Am I getting that right?

Jimmy, Just wondering why do you trim new cases? I just made a batch of ammo with new brass, I measured a bunch of samples and they were well within tolerances. Do you get new brass that isn't?

There is a big difference. You can choose not to own or drive a car, and choose not to have a business. With the healthcare bill, you are forced to buy it just because you are alive.

I use those for pistol, as you need heavy duty protection at the indoor ranges. For rifle I use the little disposable foamy ones. Which reminds me I need to order more, thanks!

Its fine, just have a "lawful purpose", i.e. transporting it home for your collection. Still a crap shoot like everything in NJ, you could still get arrested, have to prove you are innocent... Basically you can own it for your collection as that is a lawful purpose. e. Certain weapons. Any person who knowingly has in his possession any gravity knife, switchblade knife, dagger, dirk, stiletto, billy, blackjack, metal knuckle, sandclub, slingshot, cestus or similar leather band studded with metal filings or razor blades imbedded in wood, ballistic knife, without any explainable lawful purpose, is guilty of a crime of the fourth degree.

The forward ejecting stuff is very reliable. Its like on the FS2K. If you fire straight up or at elevation, the newly ejected shells will simply push the others up, until they start falling out one by one for each shot... or you tilt the rifle downwards and they all come out at the same time. There's no room for them to jam into each other inside the ejection port. The main purpose of this setup is for ambidextrous use in the field. With other bullpups, if you are in a situation where you need to use your off-hand, you have to use a technique using your hand to block the shell ejections from hitting you in the face or keep your head way back.

If you're on a very tight budget: But seriously I have these and I like them http://www.cabelas.com/product/Caldwell-E-Max-Low-Profile-Muffs/708649.uts?Ntk=AllProducts&searchPath=%2Fcatalog%2Fsearch.cmd%3Fform_state%3DsearchForm%26N%3D0%26fsch%3Dtrue%26Ntk%3DAllProducts%26Ntt%3Dcaldwell%2Bear%26x%3D0%26y%3D0%26WTz_l%3DHeader%253BSearch-All%2BProducts&Ntt=caldwell+ear&WTz_l=Header%3BSearch-All+Products

Thanks for the feedback everyone. I reloaded 50 rounds, by deburring inside in one pass, then outside in another. It was much easier on the hand than flipping the tool back and forth per round. I'm going to try it a few more times and see if I still get annoyed enough to go for the machine. As for trimming, I haven't felt the need to go power on that as of yet. Do you guys measure every case, separating ones that need trimming from those that don't, or do you just throw every shell on the trimmer (preset to the proper length of course).

Yup, Varget 1lb was $20 , 1K CCI LR was $32. Definate savings over mail order after paying S&H and hazmat. The powder was even $1 cheaper per lb compared to the best inet price I could find.

You should post something along the lines of a business plan on converting Saigas to Fed & NJ compliant variations for a per-gun fee. The shops can have you convert then, then sell them for a reasonable profit. Sounds like a win win to me as I bet there are a ton of people out there that just don't want to take the plunge at the "hand on" experience part.. and skip right owning one. I know there are companies out there that do this, but it seems they are always out of stock, overpriced, or not NJ compliant.

I just took my first trip to Salomon's this evening. Bought 4 lbs of Varget and some primers. Sure beats paying hazmat fees, and I like supporting local shops that arent astronomically overpriced. The store (if you can call it that) is not impressive. Lets just say they don't believe in Pledge and Windex. They do have many reloading components in stock which is a HUGE plus being it seems most NJ shops are allergic to powder. They are my new powder and primer go-to place. Maybe even bullets and brass, as I will check the next time I need some.

Great, problem identified. Now I'd like to see the solution document. Oh wait, there isn't one.....

I use a vibratory tumbler with corn media and liquid polish. I tumbled with the old primers still in there. I then lube, size/deprime, and towel wipe them of the lube by laying them out on a terry towel and using another one to wipe them back and forth. I use hornaday one shot spray lube, just a light amount, so it wipes off pretty well this way. I enjoy all aspects of loading except deburring. I do a turn on the inside and outside, and I keep flipping the tool to do this for each round. Really starts to cramp up my hand. I supposed I could do the insides first, then another pass for the outside. Perhaps I will try this before buying the machine.

Great writeup, especially considering I was recently looking for this information due to somehow being brainwashed into considering a saiga conversion project! I wonder from who's posts..... +1

I'm reloading .308. I size, measure, trim if needed with my Forster trimmer, primer pocket clean then deburr inside and out. The primer pocket cleaning and deburring I do by hand now, and it gets old really quickly for me. Thats where I'm seeing this machine really speeding up those processes. Noise is not an issue for me.

I just got a $100 giftcard to cabelas. Now what to buy... I'm new to reloading, so thats my concentration right now. So far in my experience, the case prep part has been the most tedious aspect. What do you guys think of this case prep machine? I'm thinking of ordering it. Lyman case prep machine

Yea, reenergized the same tired old bunch of anti-gunners that were waiting for a tragedy to try to capitalize on.

Yup, especially important when regarding battle accuracy and sight settings. MPBR determines the point at which you need to start compensating for bullet drop on your sights or optic. http://en.wikipedia....or_military_use

1/4" , awesome stuff. Imagine hiding from someone with a .308 out to get you behind anything just 1/4" thick. Would not do it unless I was 100% sure it was AR500 steel , lol.

It is obvious that Christie made a deal with him.... Pull away from the pro-rights crowd, and I will get your sentence commuted, otherwise you back me into a corner and I will have no choice but to let you sit in prison. Probably how Christie justified his actions to the anti-gun/rights political crowd.

7.62x39 maximum point blank range is around 225 yards, .308 is around 260 yards. Some will depend on the rifle, especially barrel length as that affects velocity. Ballistics for 7.62x39 , and .308. If your main goal is to punch holes in paper at 200 yards with battle accuracy, 7.26x39 is more than enough. If you want to go 300 yards+ or are looking for precision accuracy things start looking much better for the .308.