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I was slowly paying for a gun via payment option on online. I had just made the final payment and he is ready to ship and asking for FFL info. the problem is between when the payment plan started and when it ended I decided it would be fun to stop renting and buy a house. The house closing besides taking forever (stupid USAA + VA loan) went off without an issue and now i have my house. I have updated my DL but never put the sticker on the back of my DL. I mistakenly told the dealer my new town and now i know he is going to question why i have x town on my DL and FID (they still match) when i said y town. Should I put a hold and wait (laugh) 6 more months or just find another FFL and dont say anything about the new address?

I have a friend that has been trying to get a FID for almost 2 years. Yes that is correct almost two years they are coming up on maybe 19 months now and everytime they ask the "chief" is always getting ready to retire or its in the "back channels" now. Is there anything that can be done about his? Can they just reapply at the NJSP and be done with this town. I thought Long Branch was bad with 90 days and their chief calling you up and asking what guns you were buying and why you were buying them but at least i got them. Its pretty sad that I got my FL CCW in 30 days yet stuff like this goes on .

hmm, so what impact would this have on my gun? I have a platinum chrome desert eagle mark XIX. It was bought in .44 config however i have the barrel to convert it to .50 cal. The ability to swap the barrels was the reason i went for the mark XIX instead of the cheaper mark VII. If this law passes would it render my DE illegal due to having the ability to become a .50 cal or would it just make it illegal to have the .50 cal barrel equipped in NJ?

So its 3:30 in the morning and got a Calculus III test today, instead of sleeping or going over last min stuff I'm randomly looking at websites online. Why? Because good old NJ doesn't just pull its jury duty pool from voting records they also troll the DMV records. For years i have never bothered to register to vote as I was hoping I would avoid this crap all together, but alas NJ isn't like most states (ha, isn't it the truth) and again pulls from DMV records. Anyway so i have jury duty today and I already know I'm not going to be selected but going to use this to buy me more time. I plan on telling the judge I'm a strong believer of jury nullification and I will make sure my fellow jurors are informed of it. That should get me off faster than anything. Also before anyone comments on the not registered to vote. Save it, one vote doesn't matter Can you bring a laptop while waiting to be questioned? I could use the time to setup the decoy OS on my fully encrypted hdd while waiting to be questioned.

Posting back on here because i do not know why but everyone thinks im trolling or this is some kind of joke. Anway he got his bill with the code 296.90 I found this online but we are confused how this is going to affect him if it does at all. " 2012 ICD-9-CM Diagnosis Code 296.90 Unspecified episodic mood disorder Mood disorder not otherwise specified (MD-NOS) is designated by the DSM-IV as the diagnostic code (296.90) for mood disorders that are impairing but do not fit in with any of the officially specified diagnoses. According to the DSM-IV, MD-NOS encompasses "any mood disorder that does not meet the criteria for a specific disorder." An adolescent or an adult can be affected by a MD-NOS. An example of a MD-NOS can include being in minor depression frequently in various intervals such as once every month or once in three days.[1] This is essentially a blanket term for any mood disorder that is not covered under its own term in the DSM-IV." so let me guess because this is NJ and they decided to hit him with this "blanket diagnos" its over for him? Would it explain the visit with the feds? yes that really did happen. i have the agent name and number which i wont post on here for obvious reasons.

Just a warning to those out there...careful what you say. Just when he thought it was over he gets a knock on the door early morning by 2 people. And get ready for this. .. .. ... .. They were Special Agents from the FBI that wished to go over what had happened in the school. You really gotta love this "see something say something " crap. Well i learned an important lesson from what happened to him. Don't say anything to anyone or don't say anything out in public. All this over a "misunderstanding" wow. Anyway careful out there guys.

Once again thanks all for the advice here. I talked to him over the weekend to see what he plans to do and he will be contacting lawyers and including the ACLU (i have my doubts about that) and see what he can do in terms of suing them. I think what got him pissed the most was when he was being discharged was the screener that was going over the discharge information said that he should probably write a letter to his school and apologize for this. Is this the normal libtard way of thinking? They basicly kidnap the guy and force him into a hospital and he should be the one that apologizes for him not being found dangerous. They probably told him that in case he was going to sue then in some crazy way he would be admitting fault and have no grounds. I don't know i don't have a liberal retards brain and i don't understand or follow their way of thought.

I got a little bit more information from him just to clarify on what had happened. When the police had shown up they refused to provide him with much if any information. The "crisis" workers shown up and talked to him, he answered their questions and at no point in time was any threats made or any comments about hurting anyone including himself. The "crisis" workers couldn't make the call themselves and went back to their car and called in the hospital and it was determined over the phone while they were in the car that he should be bought in. They came back and said "because everything that has happened today the doctor feels its best for you to come in"...i find it strange that they said that "happened today" nothing had happened at all except them contacting him. He tried to talk his away out of it, however the crisis workers wouldn't hear it. He knew it was a lost battle and the cops were just waiting for him to try something so instead of putting up a scene he just went in the cop car without being retrained in anyway..no cuffs no physical resistance. Here is the killer part...when being released he was asked to sign a medical release back to the school...when asked why what information they would be telling the school the person replied "so we can let them know you aren't a dangerous person".

what possible reason would i need to troll? Because of my low post count? Kind of busy and while i would like to post more with work and school + other stuff i do I don't have much time to post on forums. Anyway i asked him if I could scan a fraction of proof of the document showing the discharge only sorry but he would rather any other information not be posted so everything else has been removed. EDIT: Thanks for the help for on this guys ..i have passed along some of the suggestions about seeking legal suit and he might be looking into doing so.

He was taken to a local hospital to their local "crisis" area. ..was never cuffed during the process. During his time there he said he spoke to 3 different people and then was set home. The first one was the basic medical screening, the 2nd was the "screener" and the 3rd was the doc. The doc and screener both told him it seemed to be a mistake and on the discharge paperwork was checked "not a danger to himself, others blah blah" EDIT: Also he had never lost his FID was just worried about losing it and he was telling me the cops tried several tactics to get a chance to look in his house, however thankfully I've educated him on several flexyourrights videos and declining police searches or even allowing them to talk to you in your house. There was nothing really written on the paperwork for the discharge other than the above not a danger.

Ah thanks for the fast response and i had meant 26 not 25 for the second one. and yes it was good he wasnt in too long...still its a sad shape country is becoming with this crap.

So my friend is all upset that his chances of getting anymore PPs are gone or even possibly having his FID revoked. last week at the university i was discussing a few things with him and asked when the next time we would stop by the range for some target pratice. His reply was that Physiscs was giving him a bit of trouble and he was already worried about passing the class even though the semseter had just started and was a bit depressed over the course load so didnt know when he would get to the range. Anyway, some idiot over heard our discussion and informed some higherup at the school that someone at the school that had guns was depressed. The next day he had a visit by a cop and someone from the hosptial. He tried to tell them say everything was alright but they pulled that "NJ has 72 hours screening" and took him in.after speaking to the psychologist he was released the same day." I think he said with all the waiting he was out in maybe 6 hours or less..if that matters at all. Does he have to answer yes to question 23 or 25? Or can he answer no since although he was taken there he was never techinally admitted or "observed". I'm not sure the wording of those two questions is not exaclty 100% clear. Thanks

Any other state no, but lets not forget this is USSR NJ here where you have to beg for your rights and already have to have refs in order to get a pp or fid

I'm not sure how many saw that recent article about how "psychologists" and such said if you dont have a facebook or twitter profile you are "suspicious" and could be a "psychopath". It got me wondering how long before NJ is going to start requiring you to have a facebook profile and they have to have access to it before they will issue your pp or FID and if you dont have it that means you'll be fighting the appeal in court. I don't have facebook and I never well, i consider it to be a cancer in sociality and nothing good comes from it for the most part. The reason i have for some concern is such gems from the article are like this "The German magazine Der Taggspiege went so far as to point out that accused theater shooter James Holmes and Norwegian mass murder Anders Behring Breivik have common ground in their lack of Facebook profiles." My favorite part was this "The tech news site slashdot summed up Der Taggspiegel's story about social networking as 'not having a Facebook account could be the first sign that you are a mass murderer" i dont have facebook so i must be a mass murder i just dont know it yet. With all the libtards running this state I see this coming our way very soon.

I would never allow them in. I would agree to meet outside my door and i would tell the officer sorry but your kind is not welcome inside without a valid warrent. I have nothing to hide but at the same time i dont go invlting trouble either. I dont consent to searches or invasion of any form of privacy from police. Hell, once my Defcon one app is complete I may put it on android market. its going to be great app to use against police who believe they can "seize" your phone whenver they want. in one click of a button it will randomize a password, and if it isnt unlocked in x hours it will erase the entire phone. But thankfully my town doesnt do this, they maybe extremely slow but none of this house visiting crap. I dont care if it was 10 below and he was asking to come in, not gonig to happen.

I denied my identity because the caller refused to identify. I also denied it because as i stated it was a direct call to my cellphone bypassing my last line of defense. With so many scams and identity theft these days I will deny who i am all the time until the person calling says who they are. I have so much call screening because I'm a jr database developer and pc repair tech and id rather not waste my time with people playing games. I also modify gaming consoles and the like and so i need that extra protection just in case. With google voice being my last line of defense it does what no cellphone company can do today, I can block any number i want with it. Case in point if this officer had called my google voice number i could have blocked him after the call and the next time he called he would get "this number is not in service or has been disconnected" Whats great is i can see when a block caller tried to call me

Ok first never said it was a "tin foil hat" thing.... As for if it was an on officer and not a friend playing a joke on me... I would have caught the friends voice...and number wasn't in the address book...my phones instant reverse trace shown the number to be from the neighboring town and belonging to verizon wireless so from what i gather the officer used his own cellphone to make the call. And there was indeed three of them waiting by my car when i got there. They wanted to know if my car was "alright" due to the constant alarm going off. What does my address have to do with my phone number? The google voice number does indeed call my cellphone so its a valid way to contact me, however they didn't call the google voice number. When someone calls my google voice and i answer it since i have call screening on when I answer it Ill get "Incoming call from x, press 1 to accept press 2 to send to voicemail with the option of intercepting the call at any time" When the cop called it was to the direct line as i stated in the OP. It just seems rather strange that he knew a number that isn't on much if any paperwork. EDIT: As for the above comment ....I never said the car wasn't mine and no they couldn't impound a car that had 100% right to be on college grounds just because the alarm was going off, if they would done that it would open themselves up to a lawsuit. ALSO for the 5th time the Tag and information is correct...the TAGS are registered with the google voice number which cloaks my cellphone..the guy didnt call the number my tags had listed they called the number under my FID info

Does the NJ system allow for any officer to pull your tags and see your FID status? I know most will probably say no, however i had a weird experience at my college the other day. I was coming out of my class and a few minutes after my phone rings and the call went like something like this Officer: is this (first and last name) Me: No its not,,,whos calling ? (most people i know would never address by full name like that, which is why i denied being the person) Officer: So you're not...(name again)? Me: Nope, again who is calling? Officer: Is this (phone number)? Me: No, you must have miss dialed (it was the right number, but the officer wasnt saying who he was) Officer: Ok well there is a few officers by your car you may want to go check it out which then i hung up. The problem was stupid too...i left my radar detector on and there was a cop trying to catch speeders in the parking area and so my radar detector kept going off which was triggering my car alarm. Now, here is what i dont understand. My Car registration and my boat registration are linked to my google voice number (which happens to foward to the same cell #) My college information and all contact information is also linked to my google voice number. The only piece of information that links to my real number is my FID paperwork. The officer or whoever it was that was calling somehow knew my cell number which bypassed the google voice firewall. I also have call screening on my google voice so i know it was a direct hit to my cellphone and not routed via google voice.

If you don't have any guns waiting to be picked up then couldn't hurt to be defensive. I just wanted my permits and to move on since I had a Mark XIX custom finish DE waiting for me and i didn't want to risk waiting even more months. I should add the questions they asked my refs were even worse "has he ever lost his temper, does he have any speeding tickets that you know about, has he ever harmed anyone. do you see any problem with him having these guns and of course my favorite "do you know what he does with the guns" As for my record its spot clean..no criminal record and no speeding tickets..only tickets i have are seat belt and when the cop wants to be a dick about my Air Force dog tags hanging from my mirror, which is obstruction of view i believe.

Yes i know i probably should have just told him I wasn't going to answer those stupid questions, however being how i knew there was nothing that should have stopped me i had paid for my .44 DE ahead of time before getting the permits and just wanted to pick up my custom finish DE. Had I not have been waiting i probably would have pushed it even further. Also I had to get a letter notarized saying i had gave permission to having a background search done on me including but not limited to any criminal history. This state gets stupider and stupider every chance it gets....cant wait until I move back to America.

So after almost 9 months for a simple change of address and 2 permits i got a strange call. I checked my voice mail and got this message "hello this is captain XXXX from the Long Branch police department..I'm calling about your fire arm permits if you could call me back at ext." I have gotten handgun permits before and almost never talked to the captain before. I called him back and he started drilling me asking what type of guns i was getting ...said .44 DE and Sig 226. What are my plans for these guns. Because you know I'm going to flat out say "I'm planning a big a** spree of crime this weekend and need them asap". Followed by have I had any training before, told him about my CCWs in America not the commie republic of NJ. Where i goto shoot and what active memberships and clubs do i belong to. After i answered all that he go "well you got a glowing recommendation from your references so I'm going to go ahead and issue these permits next week. I just loved his condescending tone and how he was doing me this great justice allowing me to buy a few more guns. I called my references and they said they were asked all kinds of crazy questions about me and thought the form was just enough. Is this the new norm for NJ now? I see my neighboring town Red Bank does something almost like it. My other friends have gave up trying to buy guns in NJ...i feel bad for them because they let the state win. I will not give in to this state and its "your a criminal unless we say otherwise" attitude