High Exposure

Not Defending TR! I Repeat, I am Not Defending TR! We often do a few drills up close with a rifle to demo mechanical offset and observe student's trigger control, usually starting at 5 yards and working back to 25 yards, 5 yards at a time, then back in again showing approproate holdovers for each range. We also switch from big to small critical areas - think 8" circle for chest, 1"x3" box for brain - to make the shooter think about what they are doing and when they need to be precise and slow down a bit and when they can be faster and little sloppy. I love how he brags about it too "You won't get that anywhere else, I'll tell you what!" TR is Tactical Band Camp for the wannabes/Neverland crowd.

In and of itself it is not. Then again, neither is your finger. But if you stick it in your pocket and yell "stick 'em up, I have a gun" it is armed robbery.

Incorrect. People may still be alarmed, however when they called to alert the authorites, the situation would have been known to them, making thier response less arrest-ey. If they had violated the terms of the permit, they may have gotten a fine at most instead of handcuffs. There would also have likely been streets blocked off for filming under controlled conditions where neighbors would have been notified ahead of time. You know like how everyone else who makes a movie and doesn't get arrested does it. If they followed the rules and used some common sense, instead of alarmed residents and arrested actors, the film makers may have gotten a finished movie. Imagine that.

Yes there are plenty of 55gr rounds out there that are adequate - especially out of longer barrels. I have some Fed TRU 55gr soft nose that is great. The heavier rounds came about when the 14.5"- 11.5" guns came into play for the majority of the infantry. There is no freeing and with lighter and handier guns came decreased effective range/terminal effects. The extra weight of the projectile lets the shorter guns be almost as effective as the longer guns at similar ranges. Keep in mind though, even though they may be same weight, rounds designed to take out groundhogs and prairie does may not be the best bet against 2 legged predators. There are plenty of .223/5.56 rounds out there designed to be effective against humans and still limit penetration through domestic construction materials. From 55gr through 77gr. The only reason I responded to Rob that the ammo linked was 55gr was because he asked if they were the 62gr we were discussing.

That link is to 55gr. Also, I am unsure what exact round was tested in the ATF study. Dunno. They say varmint round so they are likely 55gr or under. A round that light would not be my first choice for a SD round.

Ha! Not buying you anything. Yes we can still be friends. Good luck getting gear that works for ya Zeke!

Yes, I know what the hantavirus is. I also know what the Junta is. What I don't know is what does any of that - .40, earth tones, virus - has to do with waterproofing a cotton jacket?

Zeke, sorry man. I am not tracking.... 10mm? Pink? Junta Virus? I'm assuming they are typos but I can't figure out what you mean....

Yes.

Yup! I have a few cases tucked away in the basement that I got when the price was right a few years back.

You don't need to spend $300. Marmot PreCip Jacket: https://marmot.com/products/details/precip-jacket-new With a little Google-Fu you can find this jacket for around $70. ETA: here ha go - $69 at REI: https://www.rei.com/product/859278/marmot-precip-rain-jacket-mens?cm_mmc=cse_PLA_GOOG-_-8592780122&CAWELAID=120217890000861745&lsft=cm_mmc:cse_PLA_GOOG It is a simple waterproof shell. Lightweight and packs small. I carried this jacket with me everywhere in the mountains - even on sunny days because weathermen lie.

Get Ameriglo sights. Best tritium pistol sights out there.

Not absurd at all. Cotton is literally called the "death fabric" by outdoor survival experts. Avoid it like the plague. I spent a lot of time climbing in high mountains. Spending days many miles from a car or a house during all seasons and weather. Cotton is a no go - primarily because it holds moisture. Most guiding services won't let you on any trip/excursion over 10,000 feet if you have cotton gear. It takes forever to dry, offers very limited insulating properties when dry, and none when wet. Since it doesn't dry quickly, it chafes horribly. Cotton can retain twice its weight in water. You don't need to be at altitude or hiking in winter to feel the I'll effects of cotton. A wet cotton t-shirt may feel great on a hot day, but if the temp drops to under 70ish with a breeze you could be in trouble as your body temp drops. The one place cotton shines is if you are in an environment where flame is a possibility. A cotton base layer will keep synthetics from melting to your skin

I'm with Newtonian. The best dressed corpses in the outdoors are all sporting cotton. Do yourself a favor, if you are planning to spend any time outdoors or are buying clothes for TEOTWAWKI, buy synthetic. Cotton kills.

Yes. We use that if we can't find the Federal TRU in stock. It is practically the same round.

Check with PK90 here on the forum. Estrella Ordnance: http://www.njgunforums.com/forum/index.php/forum/81-estrella-ordnance/ He had a few in stock last I checked.

The JP or the Trojan? Is that an endorsement for the JP?

Yes, the action spring is in spec.

Having a gas issue (undergassed - not locking back on an empty mag) that I traced back to the gas block. I have tried different BCGs, new gas tube, and checked and cleaned the gas port, all to no avail. The barrel has a pinned muzzle break that I would rather not cut off and replace, so I am thinking about cutting off the current gas block and replacing it with a two piece gas block - specifically the JPGS-9: https://www.jprifles.com/buy.php?item=JPGS-9 Anyone have experience with this block? Anyone have another recommendation? The block will have to be low profile to fit under a Troy Alpha rail and will be installed on a 16" barrel with a midlength gas system. This is going on a "fun" gun - not a social or work gun. Thanks!

I just had another thought why a long gun may be better than a handgun. If the sling lives on the long gun you have a way to hold the weapon and still use two hands to accomplish a necessary task - open a window, deployt a fire extinguisher, secure an intruder - while maintaining control of the firearm. With a handgun, unless you slept with a holster already on, or take time to put on a belt with holster attached, you will have to place the firearm down someplace relinquishing control of the weapon. No one is saying to walk around your home with an M4 slung across your chest, or to stash an M4 in every nook and cranny at your house. Sometimes you have a choice what to use, sometimes you're forced to use the tools at hand - be it a curtain rod, a bat, a frying pan, a kitchen knife, a pistol, or a long gun. But the autor's assertation that a pistol is the 1 choice as a primary weapon is ludicrous, uninformed, and irresponsible. I have a pistol next to the bed. In the closet next to that there is an AR in condition 3, with armor for the whole family. If have time, that closet is where I am headed, if not I will solve any immediate problems as necessary and either run away or fight to the AR. This. There are tons of different kinds of ammo out there for an AR. Don't pick a round designed to penetrate steel helmets at 500 yards to defend your home. One - it will zip through unarmored bad guys leaving a wound like an ice pick, two - it will zip through walls fairly easily retaining mass and velocity. Save the M855 for range duty and buy a round designed for your purposes to load in mags dedicated to HD. I use 64gr Federal TRU soft nose. After being present at a few live demonstrations put on by various ammo manufacturers, I am confident it is a good choice for my applications.

Yup... The dots don't matter. They are a reference point, they are not for aiming. It's the edges of the sights that need to be precise.

I feel like every self/home defense thread should start and end with this sentence. Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk Defend yourself with whatever you are most comfortable using after appropriately educating yourself and receiving some relevant training. Now I agree as well. That being said, Scorpio, have you patterned or chrono'd your Judge with your ammo of choice at distances similar to those in your home? If so have you compared them to the same .410 round when from a shotgun.There is a significant difference in velocity and pattern and between .410 buck from a 18" barrel with a choke designed for shot, and rifled 3", 4", or 6.5" barrel from a revolver. If so, I am interested in hearing your results.

A few thoughts: First: Who the hell is Ralph Mroz and why should I lessen to him over Pat Rogers, Kyle Lamb, Mike Lamb, or any of the other professional, been there/done that trainers out there teaching modern TTPs? If a handgun is the best tool for clearing structures, why don't the high speed units out there - CAG, SEAL 6, FBI HRT, etc - do it? Second: I would like to meet the SWAT team commander that took rifles away from his people and does all entries with handguns so I can tell him that he is an asshat and should retire before he gets his guys killed. Oh wait, he said that happened in the mid 90's..... Way to be relevant We haven't learned much about fighting with a carbine in the last 20 years or so. Hey Ralph, define "At speed and tactically". WTF does that mean? Running through the house balls to the wall shooting at bad guys? What trained person would dynamically clear their own home to check for an intruder? It's slow and steady while you gather the family, until/unless the bullets start flying, then it's more about shooting than moving. Third: With proper training you can clear a porta-potty or a phone booth with a long gun. With proper training you can open a door, talk on a phone, secure a prisoner, escort a family memeber, carry a child with a long gun (Maybe not a pump shotgun as you need two hands to operate it for more than one shot) Fourth: Handguns historically suck at stopping a determined attacker. Handgun rounds also retain more mass at higher speeds after passing through interior and exterior walls with more potential for injury. His whole point is based in ease of movement - an opinion that appears to be based on his experience as a self admitted untrained individual in the presence of other untrained individuals - and does not take effectiveness* of the platform or proper training TTPs into consideration at all. *Effectiveness being terminal ballistics in addition to easier to shoot/get hits. Along with firing a less effective round, a handgun is significantly harder to get good hits with when compared to a rifle or a shotgun. Especially in a dynamic situation like a dynamic clear or HD situation. If all of your training is blue-gun training it's easy to see how that conclusion could be drawn. Unfortunately it is much more complicated than that. Is it easier to move with a handgun than a long gun? Absolutely! That doesn't necessarily make it the best option. There is a lot more to a gunfight than what weapon is easiest to move with. My verdict:

Cool! That looked a lot like the videos they would use in the show "Top Shot when they introduced the different firearms the contestants would use.

Sometimes you can't engage the safety (an in-spec AR with the hammer forward) or there just isn't a safety at all, say a Glock. What if there are multiple targets, which one is designated down range? How do you engage targets that are on a different plane than the "downrange" target? "Downrange" is a necessary administrative construct to make square-range firearms training safe. It is about as far removed from the real world as you can get and is the primary limiting factor for the effectiveness of "range" training in my opinion. Letting go of the downrange concept when off the range and out in the world is a good portion of building a combat mindset and separates a gunfighter from shooter. That's really what firearms safety rule four: "Be aware of your target, it's background, the foreground, and everything around it" is all about.