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Holy cow! How did you even watch it? it's 15 minutes long and you posted less than a minute after me!

Pretty cool look at how it used to be done. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwg1F7hdRqw&feature=youtube_gdata_player

No problem, glad to help. Now, the LCP. ***This is my opinion and not meant to start "Caliber War 2013"*** Let me start by saying that I am not a fan of the .380 ACP round for personal defense. It has a propensity for under-penetration. I mitigate this somewhat by using FMJ/ball ammo. I was looking for a small pistol to carry for a specific purpose and I was able to pick this up for under $200. I don't carry this as a primary (I did today as an experiment and truth be told, I had a service caliber pistol nearby all day as well). I bought it to be a tertiary BUG and it fits that role ok. I found today that it fits another role as well - "Lazy day around the house in comfy shorts carry". The sights are nothing more than nubs, and while I qualify with it from 25 yards in so I can carry it, it isn't easy and I don't shoot my best scores with it. The trigger is mediocre at best with a ridiculously long press before releasing the sear to break the shot and it has acountry mile of trigger reset. I know the limitations of this round in this platform and have based how I carry and intend to use it accordingly. This is not a gun to go looking for trouble with, but it is better than harsh language if I need it because I can't get to the other two guns on my body while at work. I had an opportunity to shoot the S&W Bodyguard, unfortunately it was after I bought the LCP. I prefer the S&W all day long. It has a thumb safety makes pocket carry safer, trigger is better, and it has real sights. If you are looking for a small, lightweight, sub-caliber pistol to fit a niche role I suggest the S&W Bodyguard over the LCP.

So, I was home alone today and this thread had me thinking. I grabbed a pair of athletic shorts, my LCP, an extra mag, and a DeSantis Nemesis holster for a cargo pocket: I tucked everything under the band for my underwear and the shorts together and against a tucked in Under Armor shirt at the 12:00 position, similar to an appendix carry: (Note: The mag is in the pouch backwards for a right hand shooter/left band reload. I realized after I took the photos and then made the correction) And covered it with a t shirt: And wore it all day around the house. The t shirt covered it very well and the setup was surprisingly relatively comfortable. After sitting or standing it had to be adjusted, but otherwise stayed put. It wasn't super secure, I wouldn't want to run, do yard work, or roll with anyone, but for doing some household chores, walking the dog, doing some stuff on the computers his worked. I also tried it with a Kahr PM9 and a G27 in standard DeSantis Nemesis holsters. It was a No-Go with these pistols. They are simply too heavy to be held up like this for very long and too thick to conceal well. They fell out of the waist band within a couple of steps. Now I am not changing my normal carry method, and this is not completely ideal, but, for a day when I am not feeling 100% and don't want to get dressed, this is a viable option but I still suggest a traditional carry method for most days.

"Anyone concerned?" - Nope

From you own Wiki reference: I know you are referencing Obama's usage of "civilian" recently while speaking about targets in drone attacks. I say Cops and Firemen stopped being civilians when they became specifically targeted by militant, anarchist, and terrorist groups (domestic and international) in the early 70's. Cops became combatants, targeted because of the uniform, the Job, what they stood for and what they swore to protect and uphold - Not Civilians. I know plenty of Soldiers, Marines, Sailors, and Airmen - active duty, reserves, and retired - who consider Police to be anything but civilians. I will leave the "Militarization of Police" stuff alone. Yeah, I get it, we are all JBT with machine guns, tanks, and millions of stockpiled rounds (3 for every person in America) and body bags (1 for every man woman and child in the US). PS: I already got my issued equipment of rounds and bags for the pacification of my block. Get ready it's coming. If you are nice I will give you a warning before we start.

Let me check for you again From Merriam-Webster.com: Main Entry: ci·vil·ian Pronunciation: \sə-ˈvil-yən also -ˈvi-yən\ Function: noun Date: 14th century 1 : a specialist in Roman or modern civil law 2 a : one not on active duty in the armed services or not on a police or firefighting force b : outsider 1 — civilian adjective http://i.word.com/idictionary/Civilian

I was sprayed in the Police Academy and had to complete the same tasks you did. Run, fight, handcuff, talk on a radio, weapon retention against 2 aggressors, etc... It was not pleasant but it wasn't the worst thing we had to do. It stung for sure but it most certainly didn't make me blind, want to give up, or take me out of the fight. Since my initial training in it 10 years ago I have sprayed quite a few people. It worked as you described on exactly zero of them. However, when you spray someone during an arrest they don't sit still and let you spray them. You never have a great shot at their eyes as they are moving and fighting. Everyone involved gets some and you definitely nail your partners. So it is not as effective as it could be. Still, if anything the only common thing amongst all the people I have sprayed - they all fought harder after the pepper hit them maybe not as efficiently, but with much more ferocity. Nobody likes it, but it is not debilitating, maybe slightly demoralizing.

I have been pepper sprayed dozens of times at work. I can tell you flat out, it doesn't work as a deterrent in and of itself. It 'may' give you the edge you need to win a fight or the pause you need to get away bit if you are relying on it to make a bad guy drop to ground in agony or to "think again" you are in for heartache.

Coolest Holster Ever! A Pox on OTG for not making more of them!! http://www.tacticalfanboy.com/2013/06/06/boba-fett-kydex-holster-otg-concepts/ ETA: He is also apparently a Crye Fanboy as well! http://www.qconcepts.org/keyword/airframe%20helmet#!i=2203750399&k=T4R23xR

I teach my folks to rack the slide at least three times before disassembly. Live rounds pouring out of the gun as you run the slide multiple times is a good indicator to even the most "Speshul" of my shooters that they missed a step - forgot to remove the mag. Then the slide gets locked back and the chamber is physically and visually inspected before the slide goes home and the trigger is pressed.

I think NJ State Police uses 9mm. I know Middlesex County Corrrections does as well.

I generally ask that question when folks ask me about my Glock 22 so I can give them better advice. "Why do you need a Glock?" "Home defense." "Oh, OK. Get an AR. Much better tool for the job." Or "Why do you need a Glock?" "Starting to shoot in competitions." "Cool, look at the Glock 34/35 models. They are great for comp shooting." Also, in my experience how the "why do you need..." question is interpreted by the person I am talking to is predicated on their preconceived notion of why I am asking. For exame, those that expect a Cop to be a prick or think that their inquiry will strike a nerve will interpret the "why do you need...?" question as being arrogant regardless of how sincere the Officer is responding.

A uniformed Cop in one store stops it in that store. Being arrested by the cashier because he is actually an undercover has the potential to slow or stop it in every store in the area because every counter man could be a Cop.

Maybe it was a 22 or 23 or a 31 or 32 and he had no frame of reference for your question. It's like going up to a stranger with a '55 Mercury and asking him "Hey, how do you like your Bel Air?" He is going to look at you like you have 2 heads. (I did this yesterday at an ice cream store with my son. I really thought the guy had a '53 Bel Air and I have a soft spot for them as that was my first car and wanted to show it to my son.) Also sounds like he was a boot (shiny gear and on a grub run). They drill into your head at the Academy to be wary of anyone fixated on your gizmo as that is a strong cue of a possible gun grab attempt. He was probably too new to have the experience to apply that lesson appropriately. So he became uncomfortable/defensive.

Typically tihe guns that are obscure are obscure for a reason - They don't work. Certain makes are out there in great numbers because they consistently meet all the needs of the end users - reliable, accurate, good ergonomics, easy to maintain, & affordable. I would avoid Taurus. They may "look" amazing but they do not have a great track record for reliability over a high round count.

Familiarity with firearms breeds contempt for the accepted rules of firearms safety. Every time he broke the rules in the past and didn't get hurt, he reinforced the behavior that led him to shoot himself as a safe practice in his mind. In essence he had an I am "too good" for the rules, do what I say but not what I do, that will never happen to me mentality and it bit him in the as... er.... hand as it were.

Familiarity breeds contempt.

I have to agree. Since Cohen took the reigns at Sig their product has steadily declined, generally in proportion to their sillier products (Diamondplated Slides and all the special editions ) and blatant rip-offs (their Micro RDS). Does anyone need reminding of the debacle that was the Sig250? I have seen new Sigs right out on the box unable to fire 2 rounds in a row on multiple occasions. I also know of numerous agencies that were "Sig Departments" for the last 20 years drop them after T&E-ing their recent products. These were big PDs and not an insignificant sample of their products. Other agencies culled Sigs from their testing in the first round. Like Acaixguard I train with a lot of companies that in turn train many shooters all over the country. These well known and well vetted instructors have no agenda and don't care what you shoot as long as it works. When their experiences and observations after watching hundreds of thousands of rounds go downrange through the guns of hundreds of shooters mimic my admittedly statistically small observations and experiences along with that of fellow shooters that I trust, well, in my job that's called a clue. Their standard products (226/229/239/220) maybe still holding their own but they are not the Sig they used to be.

2011-ish if I remember right. They may still make some products here. I haven't bought anything from them since they got bought out.

Latest Serpa Failure: Left handed shooter. Caught it on his seatbelt getting out of a car. You know how violent an interaction that could be right?

They were: But Eagle was bought out by one of those big conglomerates (ATK) a couple of years ago. The original guys opened a new company called "First Spear". Quality gear but you are going to pay for it.

I carry Glocks. I like Glocks. I recommend Glocks to friends, family, new shooters, and experienced shooters alike. I feel that they are simple, reliable, affordable, and accurate. They are easy to upgrade, easy to find lights and holsters, and can be worked on to evolve as your shooting evolves. While they are not "Perfect" as their slogan implies, they are good enough for what I want them to do. I just got my Brother-in-law to buy his first pistol, a Glock 35. That being said, I do not recommend Gen4 Glocks to anyone. Sure, I have heard plenty of "my 4th Gen ran flawless". Great, good for you. Your sample of one or two has been without issue. I am glad you are not having any problems. However, do you define "issues" and "flawless" the same as I do? What to you may be no big deal and not an issue on the square range may be a deal breaker for me as a carry/duty gun. Define flawless and how you came to that conclusion? How many rounds through it? 100, 500, 1k, 10k? What was your firing schedule? 300 a day? 300 over 6 range sessions? Indoor or outdoor range? What was the Wx like? What other guns do you consider to be "flawless"? What is your experience as far as training, being an armorer, carrying a pistol, troubleshooting, real world use? (These are rhetorical questions, not aimed at any one person. Please don't take offense. These are the questions that I try to answer for myself when listening to others experience/recommendations.) I have personally witnessed enough issues with accuracy, feeding, and ejection with 4th Gen models and have heard of enough issues from people who I know personally in the industry and whom I trust by reputation and background to steer clear. Some of these guys see 300-400 individual shooters with all of their different setups/gear/firearms and launch hundreds of thousands of rounds a year. Some were directly involved in testing them for a large agency, others train some high-end units. Their statistical sample is much greater than one and when they make a recommendation I listen. So it is Gen 3 for me for quite some time.

When is the last time you saw any gun get a lukewarm reception let alone a bad review in a gun rag. Gun magazines are in the $$ making business. If they are honest and point out all the flaws in a companies product they will quickly lose their support and business. Pretty soon you have a gun magazine that is losing money or going out of business. I put zero faith in gun mag reviews. I rely in first hand experience or the word of those I trust with the experience and background to make objective and subjective observations whenever possible.