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No they didn't. BUT they should be subject to the same laws as the rest of us- AS SHOULD CONGRESS- they are not "above" us. They WORK FOR US.

This is voluntary. Why would they need billions of rounds of ammo for a VOLUNTARY, not compulsory, weapons turn-in? Unless you're taking the next logical step, confiscation? Because yes- they WILL need billions of rounds for that.

That is the best, most concise, common-sense, short-and-to-the-point summary I have yet heard on this entire subject. Bravo!!

With a republican controlled house, I tend to agree. That way, Obama and the dems can blame all future child deaths on the republicans. Dem/Repub, I don't care anymore. Molon Labe.

Am I missing something? Most of those executive orders are toothless, feel-good BS. I mean, sure- if you've ever taken an anti-depressant you might have a problem, but... no bans on anything? No increased restrictions? I'm very suspicious.

No. That's just Boulder. Denver is also dem. The state at large is relatively conservative. Or at least was...

Huh... I guess I've never ordered anything they wouldn't ship. Guess we'll find out next time I try to order HP or SP or BT bullets...

IF that is truly the case at large, we're doomed. We'll either bow to the king or die resisting. (and in the meantime, we simply won't comply. Which will work fine until confiscation begins.) Only time will tell... until all the rallies are over and we see what actually comes out of all the states and the feds, we won't know the battlefield. The really scary thing is- some have hypothesized this is a "trap"... they know alot of people will simply shrug their shoulders and comply, and the others who resist can be used to create a "crisis" that the government can solve. "We must not have civil war in this country", and here comes the military... I don't want to live in those times or in that America. And I don't even have kids like alot of you do. If I did, I'd be even more passionate about it that I already am. NO WAY would a child of mine grow up in a fascist world if *I* had anything to say or do about it.

Who here owns a 3D printer? Seriously? I never "got" what the hubbub was about this "printable" stuff... I mean WHO owns 3D printers?!?!

I seems we are truly entering THOSE times, indeed.

No argument required. Seems most everyone is onboard NOW, that's what matters at this point.

Sorry, would "asshats" be better? "buttpirates" perhaps?? Sorry... "willfully naive" would be appropriate. Point being, NEVER say never. We had some lackadaisical members here when Newtown happened, luckily I think they have finally all seen the light at this point.

Only if the people in NY are bloody idiots.

There's alot of that around here. Jackasses.

Gee, where are all the "relax, all is well, move along" numbnuts on this forum now? After NY?

Excellent. Or should I say, "yaaaaaaahhhhhhh-hoooo!"

I like the cut of your jib on this forum, Handyman. I agree- I'd say NY just took the first real "step" towards forcing that kind of war. However, some think it could be a trap- you know, create a "crisis" or a "war" for the govt to come in and "fix"... except this time, it's on OUR SOIL.

You weren't trying to be funny? By saying "hot damn" [i'll get to buy up all of NY's hi-cap mags since their people have to sell them]?

Yes, and that has been ongoing for awhile now, at least the last 2 elections, but truthfully even before that with George W. That's why I am no longer a republican. I'm a CONSERVATIVE. And a Re-Founder. And a Constitutionalist. But not a republican. I didn't leave my party, my party left me.

I know you're trying to be funny, but this "me and mine" attitude is part of the problem. As Benjamin Franklin said, "we must hang together, or we will most assuredly all hang separately."

I'm so tired of hearing this. (not disagreeing with you, your posts echo mine quite frequently)... there were precincts that recorded NOT ONE vote for Romney in the last election (and also precints that recorded not one vote for Obama). That is about as mathematically possible as winning the lottery. If that doesn't prove voter fraud, I don't know what does. The fix is in. I have lost faith in our election system, which means we are NOT getting the govt we voted for. That's a very dangerous place for elected officials to be. And them's fightin' words. http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/11/23/maker-of-unskewed-polls-creates-obama-voter-fraud-map-see-which-states-he-thinks-shouldve-been-romneys/

Not much surprises me these days, but this did a little. So NY is gone. First casualty of this new "war" currently being waged. Let's see how/if other states follow suit. At the very least, it's civil disobedience time. This is soft tyranny. Soft confiscation/elimination. NY might stand for it, alot of other states won't.

There is another thread about this, I changed my reply to "wrong thread" because I thought I WAS posting in the other one...

wrong thread

I don't know if a bunch of other states will follow suit (if the does indeed pass in NY), but methinks it's time for a little civil disobedience.