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Aw, come on guys, we should just listen to those forum members who have been trying to tell us "don't worry about it; stop spreading fear, nothing's going to happen"...

SO- Illinois will be the "test case" for the rest of the country. Makes sense since Obama's lackey Emmanuel is up there. What a joke.

I wrote, but it would be easier for everyone if you could build an actual poll with the forum software... can you?

I admit I wasn't as clear as I intended on the first post, fixed in the last post.

AGAIN-I think we are getting into unknowns here.... which is my point: the leo could have confiscated and arrested based on false knowledge (guns with "muzzle breaks" that he is treating as "flash hiders")... my buddy's Bushmaster has a muzzle break, but I don't trust that that FACT would stop a leo from confiscating it, or arresting him, or a newspaper printing that it is a "flash hider", based on the incorrect knowledge that it is a flash hider, from the leo. For example, if this guy's Bushmaster is the same one my buddy owns, the gun has a muzzle break, and is legal... yet he was still arrested, and the gun confiscated, and the incident reported as, one with a "flash hider"... which would ALL be incorrect. THAT is my point... just like all the false information from the press during the CT shooting.

They can if they are pinned/welded. They are available all over the place. AR with pinned/welded flash hider and pinned stock = legal. OR... is this now where we get into the semantics of flash hider vs muzzle break? My buddy has TWO ARs, both withe pinned/welded flash hiders/muzzle breaks, AND pinned stocks.

I'm still waiting for the updated report that the "flash suppressors" (which are not in and of themselves illegal) were actually pinned, and and those part of the charges will be dropped. You can buy ARs with FSs all day, legally, in Jersey. Good luck getting your guns back, tho.

162 extra 8-hour shifts in a year? That's basically 65 hour work weeks. Is that common for a leo?

Well said.

That's what I was thinking... a resource to provide POSITIVE instances where legal firearms are used by legal gun owners. Seems like good "ammo" against the antis... pun intended.

I said SHOULD. So let's make it so.

I don't know if they ARE, or if the courts would find that they are, but they SHOULD be.

Great resource to show anti-gunners who think arming more people is a crazy idea... http://www.equalforce.net/EqualForce.html

Keep on it, Shawn. It's not fear baiting, it's keeping abreast of every possibility, as in today's political climate, NOTHING would surprise me. Not anymore. I'm not worried about Soros buying Freedom Group, but if that was announced, it wouldn't surprise me. Buy a company and let it die? Why not? Soros certainly has that kind of money if he so chose. Anyway, thanks for the heads up. And keep it up, despite the gremlins here. And put your tin foil hat back on

There's a response on FB: So here are the addresses and phone number of NY Journal "columnist" (one who propagates journalistic abuse) Dwight R. Worley who published all of the HOME ADDRESSES of Law Abiding Conceal Carry Gun Owners of the entire state of NY as well as the rest of the Marxist swine at The Journal: Dwight R Worley 23006 139 Ave Springfield Gardens, NY 11413 But you might want to call him first to let him know you’ll be dropping in: (718) 527-0832 and here are the rest of the red diaper doper babies at The Journal: Journal News President: ---Janet Hasson, 3 Gate House Lane Mamaroneck, NY 10534 (914) 694.5204 Editors: ---Cyndee Royle, 1133 Westchester Ave., Suite N110, White Plains, NY 10604, 914-694-9300 --Nancy Cutler 9 Woodwind Ln, Spring Valley, NY. (845) 354 3485 Parent company of The Journal News Gannett -----CEO Gracia C Martore 728 Springvale Rd Great Falls, VA 22066 (703) 759 5954 The reporter on the story is: --Dwight R Worley 23006 139 Ave Springfield Gardens, NY 11413 (718) 527 0832

Besides being a dictator a-hole, I can now add "delusional" to his long list of character flaws. He's believing his own lies.

+1. I love me some M1 Carbine as well... too bad mine had to go... So I then I bought a Mini-30... because it's SO MUCH DIFFERENT and apparently less lethal than the "Assault rifle" M1 Carbine. Effing idiots.

Eff Bloomberg, effing elitist effing dictator bastard. Effing 1984. Piece of shit.

I've always preferred the GOA's tactics and stances to that of the NRA. If only everyone in the NRA were also a GOA member.

Anne is of course brilliant (altho why she pushed for Romney is beyond me), but she's alot like Uncle Ted: libs not only hate her, they LOVE to hate her... almost makes anything she says as good as "thrown out" as "ridiculous", unfortunately. I prefer me some Michelle Malkin anyway.

Guess it sucks to be you, to be offended so easily by a little avatar. Personally, I've got bigger fish to fry than to let something like that bother me. (and yes- people who know flag etiquette know it means DISTRESS, not disrespect of any kind.) I fly the upside down flag PROUDLY. I feel we ARE in GRAVE distress, as a country after the founding father's design.

I wonder if all the ridiculously heightened anti-GUN (not anti-violence) press since the CT shooting was actually a "feeler", a "test" of sorts... to see how the American people would react to more gun control... if the empty racks and shelves are any indication... not to mention the increase in gun sales since Obama was elected the first time.... gun ownership seems to be RISING these days, if anything... So maybe, they floated it, they got the response, and have now decided to use it as a political weapon against the republicans and the tea party instead of a weapon against the American people. As I said, I'll take that. HOWEVER- I ain't countin' the chickens yet...

So, the dems will PRETEND to REALLY WANT an AWB, and then instead, DON'T actually push it, so they can blame the republicans for death and destruction. Believe it or not, I'll take that. I'm not a republican anymore anyway.

I googled it... it said it was 11:17am Dec. 21 in Kirimati, which is right on the date line. Guess you're not doing your math right. http://www.google.co...=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

yup. IF it goes this way instead of the AWB way we have all been talking about, I predict alot of "Randy Weaver" type incidents. I really believed Obama could not possibly be that stupid. I guess we're gonna' find out.