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Just to veer off a bit, I wonder how many others still can't touch the stuff that caused that first technicolor all night puke. It was Canadian Club for me and I still can't even smell the stuff without my stomach twitching almost 50 years later.

Dewar's 12 year old. It's Scotch whiskey.

How about dividing it along real idealogical grounds? Devils country, Flyers country, and Rangers country? It could be Rangers and all others, but then we'd be stuck with all those Flyers fans, ugh. Now that's meaningful. I have lived in both the southern part, New Egypt, and now in the "hill country", and it is to laugh if you think the southern paart is more logically part of PA. By the by, like the OP, I'm kidding, okay.

Picked up my new Browning Buck Mark Hunter yesterday (can't get to the camera as we're painting and it's in the moved stuff), and noticed an odd thing. According to the Browning web site the 6.5" barrel on it doesn't exist. Anyone out there know what's up with that? Beyond that, I cannot wait for our next range day on Monday. Wifey is already trying to appropriate it as her own.

17 days

Portuguese Water Dog. Sadly,died last year at 15 years old. God,I miss that dog!

The new IDPA rules have been posted on their web site. Only change I'm aware of, since it applies to my pending pistol is that the upper weight limit has been raaised to 43 OZ.

Okay, the date on the permit's upper right I can understand. Thanks The store has had my p2p since they sent the NICS in, Howard so I don't think that's it. (Wish it was though)

I've been looking throught the forum for previous threads that answer my NICS question, and I get the fact that I must wait >30 days to buy a second gun. The one thing I haven't found yet is what day is considered to be the purchase date. In my case, despite my desire to order/buy locally, I could not find either of the two guns I wanted in stock at any dealer. When I went to the nearest dealer, Jim Flynn, he told me that he has a standing order in on each of them, but if I found one available online, to go ahead and buy it for shipping to him on his FFL. That is what I did and gun #1 arrived at his shop two weeks ago so I went down there with my NICS paperwork and am waiting for the call now. So the question is have I bought the gun yet? It was paid for before shipping. Is that the purchase date? Is it the day the NICS was sent in? Is it the day I pay Jim the transfer fee and take posession? Or,is it some mystery date somewhere else in the process?

As you can see you've gotten some good advice on how to handle your families issues with guns. My 2 cents: educate yourself on the 2nd amendment issues thoroughly and on the numerous errors in the assumptions of the antis so you are well versed in both sides of the issue. Organize your thoughts and feelings on why you are a shooter and what you like about it. Then, when/if the question comes up you are prepared to give them intelligent, well spoken viewpoints with no hesitation or anger. Finally, remember that for them, you can be a positive example of what gun owners really are, so that if they do open their minds to your point of view, you help them realize we are not the threat they fear and are normal law abiding citizens just like them. That, I fear, is the only way we win this battle in the long run.

mrejda, nice should be great groups

Ditto the above. I wrote him, something I have never done before in my life, and told him that except for the part about civil war late in the article, he nailed it. Minus that part, I'd love to read that in our NJ newspapers.

This thread has taken a very unexpected turn. It's a very interesting read... Wonder what it means?

Amen

As DSD1026 stated: "echoing what others have said.. the only way you have a legal recourse is if you can PROVE that the neighbor knew the tree was dead and a potential hazard to property and failed to take action.. (and by prove, i mean you have to have something in writing that states you have had the tree looked at and given her notice that the tree was a potential hazard to your house or your property). Simply "knowing that she knew" isnt enough to prove legally.." 100% correct. This happened to my sister. Best thing to do is not be confrontational see if they have any interest in helping you on the deductible and contact your insurance co. Then check out their other trees carefully from your own property and write them as stated above. You're lucky it was your fence and not your house.

So what the heck is seperate from ammo? Does same range bag but different compartments qualify? In the threads I've checked and reading the actual laws, the answer seems to be that they don't have to be in say two seperate bags at all! It's does seem from the above that traveling through several states requires lots of prior legal research. Dummy up sounds like a good way to go.

I have been going to Heritage Guild in Easton, PA to rent 9mm pistols to shoot (why else?) and I'm having a ball doing it. As of today, I have tried a Beretta 92fs, Ruger 9SR9, H&K P30L, FN Fnx9, Glock19, Sig226, Springfield XDm,and TaurusPT92 in 9mm, and in 22 cal a Ruger Mark III, Sig Mosquito, Ruger 22/45, Beretta Neos and S&W (forget the model). I'm no expert so I doubt my experience with the above qualifies me to give much advice, but it sure is fun. The Wierd thing is I have a CZ SP-01 Shadow on order at CZ Custom and a Browning Buckmark that's 9 working days into the 'instant' check and I haven't shot either one of them!

I need to get this off my chest. In Friday's Star Ledger there is an article about a Bloods member who shot and killed a LEO who he was attempting to rob. His plea bargained sentence? Aggravated manslaughter and robbery carrying a sentence of up to 39 years. Now, I know that the courts and prosecutors are swamped and the plea system helps to move the wheels along, but you read this crap in the same paper that is crusading for tougher gun laws and the irony never registers on these media nannys or the politicians. As has been stated here and everywhere, the solution to the gun problem is not tougher laws, it's enforcing the ones on the books now. If you must add new laws, how about no bargaining or sentence reduction for any violent crime involving a firearm? Or even a committee heavily weighted with responsible gun users and pro 2nd amendment experts to craft a well thought out liveable system of limiting access by criminals because right now, the only thing I'm confident of is that our legislators will screw it up worse than it already is. Instead of portraying us as wild eyed cave men, let us show there are acceptible ways of ensuring our rights and increasing safety for all. Leave the law abiding citizen alone and protect him with some judicial teeth. And, while I'm at it, why is the Ledger satisfied with one article that only addresses this tangentially without any sense of outrage, when they recently went three full weeks with a pro gun control article or op-ed piece about every single day? There, I've ranted. Sorry!

Thanks to all. I agree with vladtepes that seeing the actual reference is the best way to be sure, but I had been told the same as howard about seperate ammo and guns where there is no trunk (like a SUV). I did look up the laws too, and it seems to agree with vlad in that I didn't see any mention of locks or seperate compartments, but for some crazy reason it seemed way too lacking in complication and inconvenience to be true. I will look into the Midways DSD1026 they get pretty good reviews.

Been going to the range a couple of times a week lately and decided it's time to buy a decent bag for the guns, ammo, ears, etc. Before I decide on one I figure that in a state like NJ there must be several legal considerations such as ammo and guns in seperate compartments or lock on gun compartment etc. Any things like that I should know?

Well it didn't take long. I got the license and 2 p2p's a week and 2 days ago and have a cz sp-01 on order as or last Friday and bought a Browning Buckmark hunter today. With a little luck I'll get over to Jim Flynn's shop tomorrow and get the FFL out to Cliff's guns in Idaho tomorrow and sometime next week get the work started on the final papers. Then, all I need is for the CZ to take about a month to come in, do the papers again, and we're done. :D Anyone know a good 40cal?

One thing is for sure. Take your time, as hard as that is, and find the guns you are considering and shoot them or at least hold them. I am engaged in that process right now and have shot (at a range that rents) or held (at gun shows and dealers) 10 different guns. While my lack of expertise shooting may not make me the best source for info on them, I can tell you I like the weight of a metal gun vs. polymer, I like a narrow-medium grip vs. wide and I like the ergos on some guns way better than others. Triggers smooth out over time but range guns have a lot of rounds thru them so they are a valid test of that, and if a gun triggers nicely new, it's only going to get better. Some sights seem to fall into place nicer than others and some guns just point better for me. I'm learning a lot and loving it. You will too. Whatever your choice, go after that particular gun. There are a lot of sources out there even for the hardest to find guns. In general, dealers and owners and places like this will eventually steer you onto the one you choose or at least a really close clone. Have fun with the process.

You devil you, I just ordered the SP-01 from CZ customs earlier this evening. Might be a good sign though; maybe it indicates some guns coming out of the factory. How's that for wishful thinking?

Thanks guys. I really love waiting so this ought to be a real pleasure.

Well, I decided to go ahead and order the SP01 Shadow from CZcustom today. Stuart answered all my remaining questions and even though I still haven't actually shot one, I went ahead and pulled the trigger so to speak. They don't actually have them in stock, and their estimated time of arrival sometime in May might be more wishful thinking than anything, but my P2p ought to still be good as I only got it on Monday. Hope the gun is as good as it's reputation. This is my first purchase in NJ so how does it go from here? (I find the sites search tool to be lacking, especially as CZ is less than 3 letters.) If I have the drill right I need to go to the local dealer, Jim Flynn, and get some kind of FFL number and relay it to CZ custom. I'm juiced. It's going to be a long wait no matter how soon it gets done.