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Second Amendment Preservation and Protection Act (SAPPA)

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Just now, Zeke said:

We need RBG to retire, she’s older than @GRIZ

Nah, I'm older.  

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Just now, GRIZ said:

Nah, I'm older.  

Are you sure?......

1 minute ago, Zeke said:

Are you sure?......

Yeah, but I think more clearly than her.

2 minutes ago, GRIZ said:

Yeah, but I think more clearly than her.

Lol

2 minutes ago, Zeke said:

Lol

I didn't fall asleep during the State of the Union message and I was watching it at home by myself.

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Nick Purpura's case, or shall I say his filing for his case to be Re-Heard for cert, was granted....and now is DISTRIBUTED for Conference for January 5th 2018.....this doesn't mean it was granted Cert. it just means they will ( look at his case "again") to see if they should great Cert. This ""COULD"" be big news...Stay turned.... If possible we need to support Purpura, Not sure how, but if anyone has Ideas, lets hear them. letters to the SCOTUS asking them grant Cert? IDK but he needs HELP...maybe somehow we can get the 23 A.G. from the state like want HR38 to pass to file a amicus brief...( Jay Factor ) Case Numbers: (16-3173) Docket #17-280"

 

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Copied from Facebook.

 

 

"Everyone ! Everyone ! Spread The WORD..

 

Nick Purpura's case, or shall I say his filing for his case to be Re-Heard for cert, was granted....and now is DISTRIBUTED for Conference for January 5th 2018.....this doesn't mean it was granted Cert. it just means they will ( look at his case "again") to see if they should great Cert. This ""COULD"" be big news...Stay turned.... If possible we need to support Purpura, Not sure how, but if anyone has Ideas, lets hear them. letters to the SCOTUS asking them grant Cert? IDK but he needs HELP...maybe somehow we can get the 23 A.G. from the state like want HR38 to pass to file a amicus brief...( Jay Factor ) Case Numbers: (16-3173) Docket #17-280"

 

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I wouldn't expect a different result.

 

funny, i was just looking at their website earlier today and saw nothing about that. maybe i missed it but the whole website looked like its been inactive for a while. Ok, so something to look forward to.  

1 hour ago, DeerSlayer said:

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"Everyone ! Everyone ! Spread The WORD..

 

Nick Purpura's case, or shall I say his filing for his case to be Re-Heard for cert, was granted....and now is DISTRIBUTED for Conference for January 5th 2018.....this doesn't mean it was granted Cert. it just means they will ( look at his case "again") to see if they should great Cert. This ""COULD"" be big news...Stay turned.... If possible we need to support Purpura, Not sure how, but if anyone has Ideas, lets hear them. letters to the SCOTUS asking them grant Cert? IDK but he needs HELP...maybe somehow we can get the 23 A.G. from the state like want HR38 to pass to file a amicus brief...( Jay Factor ) Case Numbers: (16-3173) Docket #17-280"

 

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Personally I would love to see a comeuppance for the state by way of a SCOTUS ruling. But, does SCOTUS even entertain letters/appeals from people? No offense intended, but I don't feel comfortable with the highest court in the land bowing to public pressure. The reason, and I think it's a good one, is that the pendulum swings both ways. Case in point, when the Senate changed the rules under Reid to pass Obama care. Now every time there's a critical vote that the R's really want, that specter rears it's ugly head. There are severe consequences to changing long standing tradition. I want my 2nd amendment rights restored here, but I want my Supreme Court to be completely impartial and originalist. Again, that sort of thing can backfire in a heartbeat.

2 hours ago, capt14k said:

 


I wouldn't expect a different result.

http://thefogbow.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=934543


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Capt14K,

I've been somewhat skeptical of SAPPA's action and legal writings since I first became aware of them, but I do believe their goal is to help the RKBA cause in NJ, so I don't go out of my way to disparage their efforts.

That bulletin board you linked above seems to be very anti-Trump/anti-RKBA in general, so I'm not surprised that they're taking any and every opportunity to take shots at the SAPPA action.

Maybe Purpura is a crackpot, maybe he isn't, but since his efforts seem to be aimed at increasing gun rights in NJ, perhaps you could stop trying to diminish him.

Capt14K,

 

I've been somewhat skeptical of SAPPA's action and legal writings since I first became aware of them, but I do believe their goal is to help the RKBA cause in NJ, so I don't go out of my way to disparage their efforts.

 

That bulletin board you linked above seems to be very anti-Trump/anti-RKBA in general, so I'm not surprised that they're taking any and every opportunity to take shots at the SAPPA action.

 

Maybe Purpura is a crackpot, maybe he isn't, but since his efforts seem to be aimed at increasing gun rights in NJ, perhaps you could stop trying to diminish him.

Actually I didn't read the bulletin board just the last post that mentioned what was happening with the SCOTUS link. No clue as to what the site is, it was the first Google search result.

 

Fred2 posted the direct SCOTUS link so I removed the link I had.

 

With that being said I have lost all faith in this action. I supported it at first. Now I think it is either a money grab or insanity. Either way it is DOA.

 

 

 

I have to support the SAPPA guys.

If this gets heard, it could blow NJ's laws out of the water.

I have to support the SAPPA guys.
If this gets heard, it could blow NJ's laws out of the water.
I understand the feeling. My advice is don't waste your money. He just reapplied and they will simply deny again. If they don't deny I will donate myself. This will be the 5th or 6th time Peruta has filed with SCOTUS. He also filed as a birther.

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Forgive me but I'm new to this Peruta case.  But I Googled him (link below) and this reads that he was never denied carry and is basing his case on "what if" this happens and "what if" that happens.  Am I behind or has he since been denied?  Has he since been detained or arrested for a silly NJ gun law?  I hope so.  Because you can't have a case on "what if".  Can someone clear this up for me?  Has he experienced more than "what if"?

https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/ca3/16-3173/16-3173-2017-04-19.html

  

1 hour ago, capt14k said:

...This will be the 5th or 6th time Peruta has filed with SCOTUS. He also filed as a birther...

Can't stop picking at it, can you?  BTW, his name is Nick PURPURA, not Peruta.

If there wasn’t something there, even if small, then why would they grant permission to re-hear arguments for cert? They already denied it, so why would they agree to relook?

Can't stop picking at it, can you?  BTW, his name is Nick PURPURA, not Peruta.

 

My mistake Peruta was the one in California that had standing but was denied Cert due to Kennedy not retiring.  

 

 

Yes that forum was left wing, but they have a very detailed history of his history with SCOTUS. Have you read through any of it?

 

 

 

If there wasn’t something there, even if small, then why would they grant permission to re-hear arguments for cert? They already denied it, so why would they agree to relook?

 

It's just part of the process. They aren't hearing any new arguments. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  • 3 weeks later...

any update on this,  Jan 5th to rehear the case for cert?

 

  Thanks

any update on this,  Jan 5th to rehear the case for cert?
 
  Thanks
I didn't see it on the official .gov docket for today, but on the summary of the case it was listed for today. It was listed as being on the docket today on a third party site and not listed on another 3rd party site. Regardless nothing has changed with SCOTUS that makes me think the outcome will be any different.

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From reading all the legal stuff SAPPA has posted I feel that this case is more of a civil rights case as much as it is specific to the 2A.     Replace the word gun with water fountain or bus seating.    

On ‎1‎/‎5‎/‎2018 at 4:53 PM, revenger said:

any update on this,  Jan 5th to rehear the case for cert?

 

  Thanks

I believe the docket updates are on Mondays.

they give a reason why not? i'm not surprised to be honest.

No reason.  Just on the denied list.

they give a reason why not? i'm not surprised to be honest.
Because they denied it once already and nothing changed between the denials?

I assume this horse is officially dead? Maybe now we can expend funds on a lawsuit that actually has a shot at being heard by SCOTUS and being decided in our favor.

I will admit I found this suit interesting at first but it seems to me Mr Purpura is a serial frivolous litigant.

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