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  1. I agree. As tomk62 said it's better to have something like an ID, mail, lease, deed, etc. Also it's illegal anyway to take a handgun from a legal residence that one might have those things for directly to a friend or relatives house if not moving there.
  2. Thanks this is exactly what I was asking. So any place with a legal right to be there even if I don't own the property? I'm just theorizing different situations like if I could bring the handgun to a friend or relatives house to stay for a week. I would definitely avoid doing that I just wanted to know the legality.
  3. I just copied and pasted the law right from the FAQs on this forum. That sentence is not implying that you can have a loaded long gun if you have an FID. It's just written poorly like a non-sequitur. It is saying exactly what you are saying...that it is always illegal to have a loaded long gun (or any loaded gun) in a vehicle. But in terms of residence or place of storage, for handguns specifically, what defines a residence? Ie where can a person legally keep a handgun and have it be considered an exemption.
  4. Here's the law: -------- It is unlawful to knowingly have in your possession a: 1. Handgun, including any antique handgun, without first obtaining a Permit to Carry. No distinction is drawn between carrying openly or concealed. 2. Rifle or shotgun without first obtaining a FID card. It is Illegal to carry a loaded shotgun or rifle in any vehicle e. Nothing in subsections b., c. and d. of N.J.S.2C:39-5 shall be construed to prevent a person keeping or carrying about his place of business, residence, premises or other land owned or possessed by him, any firearm, or from carrying the same, in the manner specified in subsection g. of this section, from any place of purchase to his residence or place of business, between his dwelling and his place of business, between one place of business or residence and another when moving, or between his dwelling or place of business and place where such firearms are repaired, for the purpose of repair. For the purposes of this section, a place of business shall be deemed to be a fixed location. ---- I'm paying particular attention to: "residence, premises or other land owned or possessed by him" and "dwelling". What's the legal meaning of these terms? Can I define my grandma's house as a residence if I've been there before? What if my grandma moves to a new house and I've never been there before but I could stay there if I wanted to? What if I stay in a hotel? Is dwelling the same as residence? Sorry but I've been reading about the Aitken story and this is making me cuckoo. We need shall issue permit to carry so badly it would make this BS disappear quickly.
  5. It's not a problem anymore but the idea of the police contacting my employer is risky and honestly mostly likely a way to discourage gun ownership. Got it. And like a previous poster said, just list any address even if it wasn't permanent (ie on a drivers license)? I plan on using 1 family member (Explicity allowed on PD website) and 1 gun-friendly friend so it should be ok. Thanks everyone
  6. Ok good. The employer reference in the old system is what kept me from applying a few years back. oh shoot I'm done for
  7. Got it, that makes sense. Fortunately my record is clean unless they check for high school detentions or something. The main thing I was worried about was the address thing that Tunaman answered.
  8. Hi guys. I really want to go and begin the process to get an FID and pistol permit especially with whats going on nowadays, but I have some concerns. Particularly, that if I accidentally make an error on the FARS I could be charged. Does it ever happen to people who make mistakes on the FARS application? I would answer everything truthfully of course but we all know how anti-firearms owner NJ is and I'm paranoid that they'll look for some minor mistake and pounce. Also I'm wondering about the address question on FARS. They want every address lived in the for the past 10 years. Does this only include permanent addresses or stuff like living at a college/grad school? And what about apartments for a year or so that I didn't change my address to? One more thing…if I were to get a permit would this show up on employment background checks? Because that is one way to get a future job application tossed out. Thanks
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