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1 hour ago, bhunted said:How? Unless you have Hexmags, all modified mags like pmags are epoxied shut.
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk ProI think C-Products lanced the magazine bodies to limit the capacity to 15 rounds and so they could be taken apart for cleaning.
Also, I have a couple of firearms with magazines that the magazine spring attaches to a spring base, and the spring and spring base are held in by the magazine base plate.
Wondering if you just epoxied the Magblock limiter to the spring base if that would work and you would still be able to clean the magazine.
http://www.magazineblocks.com/magento/products/magblock-kits.html
I agree that all of this is unconstitutional, and it will all eventually be overturned by the courts, but courts make glaciers look like sprinters by comparison and I'd rather not spend my golden years in prison waiting for it to happen.
In the meantime, there is plenty of safe space to the west of the Delaware River.
I'm not selling anything.
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2 hours ago, Mrs. Peel said:I'm sure there's plenty in Sussex/Warren/Hunterdon and Southern NJ, too.
If you could somehow remove the part of the state about 10 miles to each side of the NJ Turnpike, it would be Texas without the barbecue.
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ATF web page on Receiver Blanks.
https://www.atf.gov/qa-category/receiver-blanks
If he actually believes it and is not just doing what his boss told him to do, he needs to dust off his law school textbooks.
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Thinking about it -- bb guns and black powder are not considered firearms under Federal law, and online sellers don't sell >15 round (now >10) mags to NJ. The receiver blank business can't be a very high profit margin business and how many could they possibly have sold in New Jersey anyway?
Not worth the legal cost to fight.
Easier and cheaper to just say they won't send orders to New Jersey.
Still think it's a solution to a problem that doesn't exist here.
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2 minutes ago, 1LtCAP said:I KINDA HATE to go here.....but the dude's an indian. gun laws in india suck. worse than here. he probably thinks that they make india a safer place, and is going to try and use his position to make it so. again...i hate to go there, but...........
Gurbir Grewal is a Sikh.
And Siks are always supposed to be armed.
Quotehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirpan
Kirpan
Kirpan 
A Kirpan (top) and its sheathType Sword Place of origin Punjab Part of a series on Sikhism 
Sikhism portal
The kirpan is a sword or knife carried by Sikhs.[1][2] Also, it is a religious commandment given by Guru Gobind Rai, later known as Guru Gobind Singh - Singh meaning leon- in 1699, he demanded that Sikhs must wear the five articles of faith (the 5k's) at all times, the kirpan being one of five Ks.[3][4]
The Punjabi word kirpan has two roots: kirpa, meaning "mercy", "grace", "compassion" or "kindness"; and aanaa, meaning "honor", "grace" or "dignity".
Sikhs are expected to embody the qualities of a Sant Sipahi or "saint-soldier" with the courage to defend the rights of all who are wrongfully oppressed or persecuted irrespective of their colour, caste, or creed.[citation needed]
Kirpans are curved and have a single cutting edge that may be either blunt or sharp.[2] They are often between 3.0 inches (7.6 cm) and 9.0 inches (23 cm) long,[2] and must be made of steel or iron.[5]
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12 minutes ago, capt14k said:
They also exist to make your own Glock
Sent from my iPad using TapatalkYup. 1911s, too, IIRC!
But as a law abiding NJ citizen, there were other things that I thought I had more use for than another paperweight.
Remember the presser in Asbury Park in April announcing (with great fanfare) the release of NJ firearm crime data that anyone could find on the internet in about a minute?
Everyone except Murphy and the little girl look like they are confused why they are there.
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11 minutes ago, PK90 said:I did know that 80% receivers existed.
I just don't remember seeing or hearing any ads for them here in the People's Republic.
(Maybe they are advertised in some of that junk mail that shows up in my mailbox as an unwanted "benefit" of my NRA membership? It goes directly into the recycling bin unread so I really don't know.)
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2 hours ago, JackDaWack said:So the new AG is either entirely incompetent or just a anti Constitutional gunngrabber, or most likely both.
I don't think he is that stupid.
My guess is that Moms-Against-Guns told Murphy to DO SOMETHING and so Murphy told Grewal to DO SOMETHING and so he did.
He wrote a letter.
I have never seen or heard an ad for 80% receivers. Has anyone? It's something that I never even thought I might want or need. (Until today.)
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10 hours ago, SmittyMHS said:I wonder just how many "ghost guns" have been used in crimes here. I'm betting not many.
I'm betting zero, or a number very close to zero.
But II also suspect that the number of 80% receivers used as paperweights here is more than zero.
If you're a liberal politician, you must have recurring nightmares about the Storming of the Bastille. This stuff is meaningless but may help them sleep at night.
I might consider adding a few to my box o' evil mags going to live in a "safe space" in America (away from NJ). If it gives them nightmares, it must be something that's good to have.
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3 hours ago, M4BGRINGO said:Yes, check out this doozy in DE. I thought that state was still ok with the 2nd Amendment. Looks like Democraps everywhere are taught that guns are evil no matter who owns them.........
Delaware assault weapons ban fails to get past Senate committee ->
https://whyy.org/articles/delaware-assault-weapons-ban-fails-to-get-past-senate-committee/
(That bill sounds more like a rant than an actual law, too.)
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On 6/9/2018 at 3:41 PM, voyager9 said:If I had any firearms it would appear mags for them could be roughly $45 each new. Ouch.
In the case of any firearm that you might or might not own, are Magblocks available? I was kinda surprised to see that they are available for everything that I might or might not own.
http://www.magazineblocks.com/magento/products/magblock-kits/pistols.html
The downsides of the Magblock seem to be that the magazine would be impossible to take apart and clean once the floorplate is epoxied into place, and the magazine limiter could interfere with the operation of the follower. (The upside is that they cost $5.50-$6 or so.)
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On 5/21/2018 at 8:34 PM, SJG said:Still not sure what this looks like when installed.
QuoteN.J.S.2C:39-1
z. "Pistol grip" means a well-defined handle, similar to that found on a handgun, that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon, and which permits the shotgun to be held and fired with one hand.
I'm no lawyer but I did need to did stay in a Holiday Inn more than once -- and it seems to me that for something to be a pistol grip you'd need to be able to grip it like a pistol.
Or grip it at all without dropping the rifle.
Then again, who knows? The meanings of words change. I know that when I was in grade school if I had answered the "What is marriage" question with the current definition, the nuns would have called my parents and expelled me.
Below is what a Strike Industries product looks like on the rifle S&W is selling in California. (The cheap, $9 one.) I did check in on the NY board and more recent posts there report fin grips being sold by LGSs without problems.
But still no major AR manufacturers seem to be selling NY compliant models.
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16 hours ago, Barms said:Start thinking about ways you will make your mags be ten rounds and appear permanent. Great side gig for cash whomever perfects it.
Quote$150 for 10 - 10 round pmags is way cheaper than $5,000 for free mags and a lawyer. Sometimes saving a few bucks isn't worth it.
There are tons of 10-round pistol mags around from the 1994-2004 Clinton AWB years. 80% of the country doesn't want the things, even if they came with the gun when it was brand new.
eBay and GB are probably good sources for cheap 10-round pistol mags.
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1 hour ago, USRifle30Cal said:How easy is it then to search the FFLs books and 4473's, based on date to find out what was transfered???? Very easy
So while they might say no online database I say BS.
I think the system was designed to make it fairly easy to trace transactions from the manufacturer's SN back to a retail purchaser, but not to go the other way -- not for wholesale screening to generate a list of owners of, say, Evil Black Rifles.
NICS was launched by the FBI on November 30, 1998, so there are less than 20 years of records in the Federal system. Quality firearms should be expected to last more than 20 years. More than 100 years, really. They should last longer than the first buyer himself should last with a little maintenance. And gun oil and springs are pretty cheap. So probably only a fraction of the records of initial purchases of all the firearms in the US have been captured by NICS.
According to the FBI, there were 11,004 firearm homicides in 2016, and probably only a small fraction where the firearm was left at the scene but the perp himself had absconded from the scene. But there must be millions of Evil Black Rifles in the US. So, yes, Big Brother (or Big Sister) could trace (almost) all Evil Black Rifles back to the original address of the retail purchaser -- but it wouldn't be easy, would cost a lot of money, and the list wouldn't be completely accurate.
Magazines? No registrations, no paper trail and there must be hundreds of millions of standard capacity magazines all over the US.
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2 hours ago, USRifle30Cal said:I would think a storage unit rented by you paid by you in your name is a terrible place to squirrel things away....
If the storage unit is located in New Jersey agree that this would not seem to be a great place. However, New Jersey law doesn't apply to Pennsylvania or to Delaware.
It there any Federal or NJ state database of long gun purchases?
I didn't think that there was. I've purchased three long guns on one single occasion on one NICS background check.
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On 5/30/2018 at 0:15 PM, 1LtCAP said:http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=1450472&highlight=Kirschenmann
QuoteMore on the Bakersfield farmer and CalGuns member arrested and charged with 12 felonies.
Based on the police report, this is what happened:
1. On April 10, 2018, Sean Provost--Special Agent with the California DOJ's Bureau of Firearms--was told by his supervisor, Special Agent Fred Frausto that on December 7, 2017, Scott submitted an electronic application via CRIS to register an assault pistol and provided multiple photos of the same. It was a fully assembled firearm with a bullet button. On the CRIS form, Scott said he did not build the firearm. Scott said it had an 8 inch barrel and shot a 300 win mag round. (The model of the lower was an SD15-ITG, which appears to be a standard AR-15 lower, so how it shoots a 300 WINMAG is a mystery.)
2. Frausto and Provost then looked at the DROS record for that serial number, which showed the pistol having been purchased in 2013 as a fully assembled and functioning firearm.
3. In November 2017, Scott went to the Bakersfield Get A Gun with the lower only, which was transferred on the DROS form as a "frame only." Get A Gun's owner confirmed to Frausto that the transfer had indeed been of the frame only.
4. The same April day, Special Agent Greg DeLa Cerda and Provost drove to Scott's house and obtained a description for it in order to obtain a search warrant, which included the ability to search any safes and seize the assault pistol, and other assault weapons, large capacity mags associated with assault weapons, and any receipts indicating sales of firearm parts associated with the assault weapons.
5. The following day, Brian McNamara, Kern County Superior Court Judge, issued the search warrant.
6. Six DOJ BOF officers went to conduct the search the residence. They were wearing body cams. They included Provost, Frausto, another Supervisor Isaias Rivera, and 3 other special agents. Scott answered the door and Provost told him that they were there to investigate the Sun Devil AR pistol he had previously attempted to register, and that he wanted to inspect it. Scott said he wouldn't do anything without his attorney present. Scott asked about the specifics of the gun; Provost said it was a Sun Devil lower chambered in 300 Winmag or 300 BO.
7. Scott states that he was recently divorced and that the weapon was purchased by him and his wife mutually and that he did a pawn return on the weapon (whatever that means) and then attempted to register it "after the one year thing" (whatever that means.) Provost asked to enter the residence but was denied. He told him that they had a search warrant and Scott complied. He agreed to help the agents locate the firearms on the premises.
8. Scott was shown the search warrant and explained his wife purchased the firearm prior to their recent divorce. Afterwards, he began registering firearms in his name.
9. He opened a case for the Sun Devil. SAS Frausto advised that in order to render the firearm safe, he had to depress the rear take down of the firearm and separate the lower and upper receivers in order to remove the magazine. Upon doing so, the firearm was rendered safe, but now met the criteria of an·assault weapon in that it had a standard magazine release button that then allowed the user to simply insert a magazine into the magazine well and remove by depressing the release mechanism. At this time, SAS Frausto closed the firearm and returned it into its original configuration, minus the magazine. As such, this firearm now met the criteria of an assault weapon in that it was a semiautomatic pistol that does not have a fixed magazine, but has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip. SAS Frausto advised a that the firearm would be seized pending review by the district attorney's office in order to determine if charges are warranted for this specific firearm.
10. They then found another assault pistol with no bullet button with a 40 round mag. It was a Noveske N4 lower, listed as being chambered in 300 win mag. Is it really possible to chamber 300 win mag in an AR-15 lower? I assume not because of the size of the round, but they listed that for both the Sun Devil lower and Noveske lower. Maybe they mean 300 BO?
11. They then went through and found a number of non-featureless ARs without bullet buttons. They had telescoping stocks, standard mag releases, pistol grips. No mention is made on whether they had the dreaded flash hiders. 8 such ARs were identified. Two of these were commie caliber rifles, with fully and partially loaded 10 and 20 round mags attached. One of these commie ARs had a slidefire stock. Some of the other rifles were chambered in 223/556 with 20, 30, and 60 round mags attached.
12. They then found 10-inch AR pistol. They initially believed it was an SBR and he was in fact booked for an SBR. But Provost later realized that because the stock was made by Shockwave Technology and designed as a pistol stabilizer, this was not an SBR. However, since it had a standard mag release, it was still an assault pistol.
13. Frausto noticed on one of the rifles carbon buildup suggestive of a silencer. Sure enough, they founda a Surefire Socom 762-RC and M4-200, and ATF paperwork for both.
14. They met with Scott, Mirandized him, and asked him if he'd be willing to speak with them. He said he'll listen to their questions. Frausto asked him if he knew they were illegal, and Scott did not respond. Frausto asked him if the desk and chair in the safe room (he had a walk in safe) was where he worked on his firearms, which Scott confirmed, and joked he was "working down the line" to make his rifles compliant. They gave him DOJ property receipts, confiscated the above rifles, and arrested him.15. They later checked all the firearms against the registration system, and none were RAWs.
16. The 230 rounds of whatever it was was simply the ammo loaded in the mags in the confiscated firearms. Scott had a ton more guns and ammo that they didn't take during this search (whether they took it later, I have no clue.)
17. DOJ recommended manufacturing charges, but the local DA didn't bring them. The standard and high-capacity magazines did not appear to be a concern at all in the police report.
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1 hour ago, SIGMan Freud said:The problem is, it's not a closed system. The local PD knows when I buy a pistol, but they don't know when I sell it.
It's not closed as far as entry. Your local PD couldn't know if you inherited a firearm and they couldn't know what you might have brought here if you moved here from another state.
I have my doubts that any NJ state database could be accurate.
People move, die and even sell guns occasionally.
They're not -- IMO -- going house-to-house searching for >10 round magazines, but it will make it a whole lot harder for your lawyer to defend you against whatever lead them to find the >10 round magazine.
How mush does a safe deposit box rent for in PA? $100/year?
Cheaper than a lawyer.
We're in the same boat as California and New York. Over 20% of the US population now. (It's getting to be a pretty big boat.)
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Just now, capt14k said:
You can technically own full auto in N.J. as well. Same process as CCW.
Sent from my iPad using TapatalkExactly!
(I enjoy the guides that say the full-auto and CCW are legal in NJ! Technically true. However, the state doesn't follow its own laws and regulations. But unlike us mere citizen taxpayers, nobody can send the state to prison.)
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2 hours ago, gleninjersey said:Full auto used to be 100% legal not too long ago (1986).
Full auto IS 100% legal in many (if not most) US states in 2018!
The NFA (National Firearms Act of 1934) levied a $200 tax (which was a lot of money at the time) on the manufacture or sale of machine guns and sawed-off shotguns.
So $200, requires a background check, etc. and like anything that might be fun in New Jersey, don't even think about it here.
Legal in PA, that state just across the river and visible from the NJ Capitol building in Trenton.
What the Reagan era bill (Firearm Owners' Protection Act of 1986 - FOPA) did was prohibit the sale of NEWLY MANUFACTURED fully-automatic firearms to the public (thereby making legally owned ones with paperwork an excellent investment).
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1 hour ago, sota said:So for those with > 10 rnd mag equipped firearms in-bound as we speak, how does this affect them picking them up?
Are the mags verboten the day the bill is signed? or does that 180 period mentioned apply to pending purchases?
Not sure I see the point to buying a magazine that will be a felony to own in the state in just 180 days.
As I read it (and I'm no lawyer and I don''t need to stay in Holiday Inns any more), the bill seems to have re-legalized the tubular magazine 18 round pre-NJ AWB Marlin 60. (If so, and if the prices on GB don't go crazy, I plan to buy one, even if I never shoot it.)
I plan to send off any magazines that are not NJ compliant to live in America. If the SC eventually overturns this futile and meaningless effort at virtue signaling, I'll move them home. If not, I'll join them to go live in America.
Along with my checkbook and my NJ tax payments.
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4 hours ago, USRifle30Cal said:You have a self defense shooting at home,
Call me a pessimist, but I don't think that an illegal magazine will help you to convince a jury of your innocence.
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Did they just re-legalize the tubular magazine 18 round capacity old-style pre-1980s Marlin 60 -- the magazine capacity before New Jersey limited magazine capacity to 15, and forced Marlin to build only the 15-round "Jersey Marlin"?
(If so, I'll be looking for one -- just "because"!)
There are two 18 round Marlin 60s on GB right now. $150 and $175 with no bids.
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On 6/4/2018 at 6:28 PM, 124gr9mm said:I can't imagine anyone ever being prosecuted for that.
Is there an accurate central register of all the locally-issued NJ FPIDs issued since 1966? Mine looks like it was pounded out on my dad's old manual typewriter -- 1966 technology.
How many who have ever applied for FPIDs have since moved out of the state or are dead?
(I'd guess about half.)
When Sweeney tried to do away with the local FPID system and link the new FPID with driver's licenses (the big bill Christie vetoed), there seemed to be a lot of concern about a NJ central firearm owner registry.
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47 minutes ago, Malsua said:This is a good article that pretty much sums it all up. That said, my only hope is to exit NJ post haste however that may take me some years. Once I become a stroke of the pen felon, my choice will simply be to move prohibited items beyond the control of the jackbooted Nazis in the NJ government.
New Jersey is generally well ahead of the curve with its gun control laws. It passed it's own laws years before the 1968 Federal GCA and the Clinton AWB,
Only reason much of this wasn't signed into law years ago is that Chris Christie thought that he could become President.
The state (and the majority of it's voters) are hopeless. The only salvation possible is if Trump replaces a few more SC justices and the state gov't goes into bankruptcy and receivership. (Murphy is going an excellent job in that respect!)
Trump has a home in New Jersey and he isn't a New Jersey resident. Just like Florida, the weather in the state isn't bad 9 months of the year. Great beaches, pizza and tomatoes. Nice place to visit -- but not to be a taxpaying resident of.
AG Grewal Sends “Cease and Desist” Letters Warning “Ghost Gun” Makers to Stop Advertising, Selling in New Jersey
in Current New Jersey Gun Laws Discussion
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During one of the ammo panics or another, I tried buying from suppliers other than my usual online vendor and IIRC, all asked for a copy of my NJFPID. So they were intimidated.
A magazine is just a tube and a spring but sellers seem pretty careful about selling to prohibited states.
Expect plenty more exhibits of meaningless virtue signaling. Murphy thinks Moms-Against-Guns/Rich-Divorcees-With-WAY-Too-Much-Time-On-Their-Hands will make him the 46th President.
I think he's highly delusional.