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5 hours ago, SIGMan Freud said:I could see it being a pile-on type charge, and I could be way off base, but it doesn't seem likely to be a primary charge against an otherwise law-abiding person.
Unless you need to use the firearm in question for one of the long established lawful purposes, self defense, and it's taken as evidence and sent off to the lab for examination.
If you don't have a friend in Pennsylvania, a storage unit or safe deposit box there must be a lot cheaper than a lawyer.
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On 3/30/2018 at 8:33 AM, MartyZ said:Anyone considering having more then 1 wife should definitely first consider a visit to a very good psychiatrist.
My wife ask if we can renew our vows for our 20th anniversary. I responded with "I ain't making the same mistake twice"
And you're still married? (To the same woman, I mean?)
In the age of DNA testing, I'm not sure why the state needs to license the marriage contract.
So you can pay more taxes? The state should than encourage marriage, and it's clearly not.
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22 hours ago, mrmister2000 said:Hi all.
New to the forum.. and looks like I'm reviving an old thread. I just ordered one of these Strike Industries finned grips tonight (the more expensive one of the two), but am now wondering if I should cancel it before it ships.
It truly is BS that we live in a state where the penalties are so stiff for "little things" and yet no gov't bodies can get together and reach a consensus to define exactly WHAT is legal and illegal.
Making up the meaning of laws on a case-by-case basis and based upon personal opinions and then sending people to court when there is no clear definition stating what is and isn't contraband makes absolutely no sense. It's like an officer pulling you over and then when you ask them why they pulled you over they say "I'm not sure, really, but I just felt like I needed to pull you over for some reason... in the absence of any concrete facts to which to base my decision to pull you over."
I am just FLABERGASTED that there hasn't been a class action lawsuit against the State of NJ at least requiring the state to CLEARLY and SPECIFICALLY LIST the true and agreed-upon legality of those items which many of us agree come under the "gray area" description.
The New York SAFE Act was passed in 2013 and it's still unclear what it means.
So far they have demonstrated that the 7 round limit actually means a 10 round limit. (So 7=10 in the Empire State.)
S&W sells a version of the Jersey M&P 15 (Fixed stock, no bayonet lug, no flash hider) with a Strike Industries fin grip (the cheap $9 one) in California. The California-legal fin grips (see below) seem to be sold in gun stores in some NY counties but not in others. FN sells their a version of their AR with a Herra CQR stock in California. The Herra stocked AR is also sold by AR gun stores in NY. But not directly by FN. The big manufacturers aren't touching the NY AR market with tongs at this time.
Nobody wants to be (and pay for) the test case (s)in court.
The Thordsen Custom stocks (the ones that the first models looked like they were built by lawyers out of discarded plastic model sprue) seem to be California legal and are sold in both Cali and by AR gun stores in NY. Are they legal in NY? Who knows, the SAFE act is so badly written. But they are sold in NY.
Rifle stocks (and in particular Monte Carlo rifle stocks) "protrude conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon but that doesn't mean that they are "A pistol grip".
By definition a pistol grip would seem to mean a grip that can be held like a pistol, but I'm Old School where words had actual meanings when I was in school. So who knows.
Eventually, I think it will come down to "common use for legal purposes", so I wouldn't do anything that cost me more than $10 or is irreversible to comply until this all gets sorted out. I'd certainly recommend complying, though. Do you have a friend in Pennsylvania?
QuoteIn California, this is what the law say's as to what qualifies as a "Pistol Grip" on a rifle.
"A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon."
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(d) “pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon” means a grip that allows for a pistol style grasp in which the web of the trigger hand (between the thumb and index finger) can be placed below the top exposed portion of the trigger while firing.”The following definitions apply to terms used in the identification of assault weapons pursuant to Penal Code section 12276.1:
Click here for California Department Of Justice "Bureau of Firearms" Pistol Grip Definition Diagram.
QuoteAlthough these firearms are centerfire, semi-automatic rifles capable of accepting detachablemagazines, they do not have conspicuously protruding pistol grips because none of the grips allow for a pistol style grasp in which the web of the trigger hand (between the thumb and index finger) can be placed below the top of the exposed portion of the trigger while firing.As above, that's what the words mean in California. But this is The People's Republic of New Jersey, so who knows what words mean.The grip below ("free" if you spend a couple minutes with a saw) would seem to neither be a pistol grip nor protrude prominently beneath the firearm's action, but who knows. I'm not a lawyer and I don't need to stay in Holiday Inns any more, so it's safest to ignore anything I say.
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It doesn't hurt, but I think the landscape would be more scenic with two (or three) Trump SC appointments.
Scalia's "common use for lawful purposes"pretty much covers it all. The SC hears about 1% of the cases it's asked to. It can't take every crazy liberal judge who applies emotion over logic to a case by the hand. It doesn't have enough time.
I don't think I really want the SC to hear another firearms case with its current makeup. After Kennedy and Ginsburg retire.
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On 5/12/2018 at 4:34 PM, Americans Push Back said:Hand guns in inner cities
The safe suburban counties have the most (legal) guns and the lowest homicide rates. The urban counties have the fewest (legal) guns and the highest homicide rates. Everything the legislature does punishes people who are not a problem. (It's analogous to kicking a dog after a bad day at work.)
How did this happen?
The Watts riots took place in 1965 and the NJ firearm laws were passed in 1966.
The original goal was not to prevent law abiding citizens from purchasing firearms for recreation and self defense.
However, it was Politically Incorrect to state what the actual goal was, even in 1966.
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Thinking about it a little more -- I don't think that a landlord can unilaterally modify a lease (by posting notices in public spaces.) I'm guessing that there isn't any firearm prohibition clause in the lease, because if there is, there would be no reason for the notices.
If you pay your rent on time, don't damage the apartment and don't create a nuisance, I don't see that a landlord would have any reason to evict you.
Also, are they saying that they won't rent to LEOs? If a Newark Police shows up in uniform will they refuse to rent to him? That seems super-duper dumb. (Or maybe the Newark Police know enough to avoid the place.)
QuoteHowever, when it comes to enforcing a "no gun" policy or lease term, a landlord will not have many options, particularly if the tenant does not show off the firearm, or discharge the firearm on the property. A landlord does not have the right to search a property for firearms, and cannot make you open a safe. A landlord can inspect their property for maintenance, and other business related reasons, but those inspections do not allow landlords to search a tenant's personal belongings.
If it's private property, a landlord can put pretty much anything in a lease but enforcing it is something else. There are probably millions of contracts with clauses that are everything from unenforceable to unconstitutional. Gun owners aren't a protected class. I don't think it's enforceable in any case.
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AFAIK, if the building is privately owned, yes, they can do this.
The difficulty is -- I'm not sure that they can enforce it -- at least without making an apartment-to-apartment search (4th Amendment) unless the tenants has signed a lease allowing landlord inspections of all their property (if your lease says you have to allow inspections of the inside of your safe...)
Richardson Lofts, 50 Columbia St, Newark, NJ 07102
http://www.richardsonlofts.com/index.aspx
Looks like it's privately owned.
It doesn't look like they tell you up font what the rents are, so I'll take a guess that the rent you pay depends on the tenant class that that you belong to. If that means lots of Section 8 neighbors, no matter what the landlord says, tenants will have guns (and drugs). Basically, the landlord is disarming the full-fare tenants.
Probably some SJW tenant gave the owner an earful.
Incidentally, they may be able to ban pets. But they can NOT ban service dogs. (And, I'd guess, service cats and service gerbils.)
https://www.servicedogcertifications.org/landlords-service-dog/
QuoteOverview
A jewelry factory reinvented – adding modern design and comforts to historic character
Richardson Lofts is at the heart of downtown Newark. This impressive structure celebrates its historic past, with a grand spiral staircase and open atrium, and embraces the area’s bright future with two new stories featuring modern penthouse duplexes. All apartments in Richardson Lofts include thoughtfully-designed layouts, modern features, and all the amenities you desire.
Shops, restaurants, and cultural attractions such as the Prudential Center surround Richardson Lofts. Take in the symphony at the Grand Hall of the New Jersey Performing Arts Center, attend baseball games at Bears & Eagles Waterfront Stadium, and experience vibrant nightlife — all within walking distance. Imagine the quick and convenient commute to Manhattan, and you’ll find that Richardson Lofts is THE place to live in downtown Newark.
Pet Policy
Pets are not allowed
Office Hours
Monday: 10:00 AM-04:00 PM
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Why Choose Richardson Lofts
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On 4/24/2018 at 3:48 PM, Rob0115 said:Let me be the first to welcome you to the Jacksonville area. Hopefully you will be voting the right way to help slow the decay of our state.
Little danger of not voting the right way. I'm an independent but the last time I voted for a Democrat was 1972. I'm not likely to make that mistake again.
(At least not deliberately. That's unless you find me in a nursing home with an "I Voted!" sticker.)
On 4/24/2018 at 4:07 PM, Howard said:
I am about to flee for the Jacksonville area as well, but no way am I keeping any property or ties to the socialist people’s republic of New Jermany.The problem is that Florida weather is intolerable for 3 months of the year. (In that way, Florida is much like New Jersey, it's just a different 3 months.)
We were looking at houses here in New Jersey but closer to the beach. Than Sandy happened. We were told that one house we had liked had 4 foot waves in the living room.
Which scared the willies out of us.
Most recently, Trump's tax reform capped the deductibility of SALT. If I'm going to waste my money, I can think of better things to waste my money on than a bloated, inefficient government.
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37 minutes ago, 1LtCAP said:manual semi auto?
those that voted him in are too stupid. at this point, we're at an "idiocracy" point of voting in nj. he may well land a 2nd term. even if he doesn't, the state legislature is still lost.
The last time New Jersey had a conservative governor was 1944.
And he was a Democrat!
The People's Republic of New Jersey idiocracy is on Medicare and Social Security and headed for the nursing home.
QuoteNew Jersey’s gubernatorial election was the second costliest on record – and culminated with the lowest voter turnout, in percentage terms, in state history.
Election results were made official Wednesday. They show Gov.-elect Phil Murphy won by 14.1 percentage points, his 1.2 million votes amounting to 56 percent. At just under 900,000 votes, Lt. Gov. Kim Guadagno drew the fewest votes for a Republican nominee since 1989.
QuoteNumbers certified Wednesday by the Board of State Canvassers showed voter turnout was 38.5 percent, with about 2.2 million of the 5.6 million registered voters participating.
That’s down from 39.6 percent in 2013, which had been the record low turnout for a year when a governor was being elected.
Voters think that they will get screwed no matter who wins. Are they wrong? It mainly seems to be a difference in the degree and method of screwing. So why bother?
Just this morning I was thinking about buying a Mar-a-Bob-O in Florida, for all but the really hot months. (My business is portable because it's on a computer.) Seems to make much more sense than upgrading my taxes by buying a bigger house here in the People's Republic. I can buy the bigger house, keep the New Jersey house for the hot summer months, and pay less in net taxes. Am I missing something? My heirs can then worry about what to do with the New Jersey house.
(My wife said, "But, but, what about healthcare?" I noted that the Mayo Clinic has an operation in Jacksonville.)
It's a 13 1/2 hour drive from here at the Jersey Shore to Jacksonville.
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NY Times (!): "One Top Taxpayer Moved, and New Jersey Shuddered":
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/01/business/one-top-taxpayer-moved-and-new-jersey-shuddered.html
The state is losing more population than it is gaining, (relative to other states). It's generally listed in the top states that people are moving out of.
Within that frame, the state is losing a lot of high tax payers. But it's gaining a lot of people who want free stuff.
Mar-a-Lago is closed between Mother's Day and Halloween, and one of New Jersey's most famous part-year residents is about to return for the summer. Do you think he pays New Jersey income taxes? (Under New Jersey law, he doesn't have to.)
I don't think Murphy has any viable option. Sure, he can raise income taxes. And sales taxes. But New Jersey is the #3 state for taxes https://taxfoundation.org/publications/state-local-tax-burden-rankings/ and he'll lose even more tax-paying residents than the state is losing now.
I've heard the pie-in-the-sky idea that a marijuana tax will save the state. But Murphy can't put a Viagra-level price on legal weed because the legal retail price still needs to be competitive with the black-market price.
Back to the OP, is the photo below going to be a pistol grip under the not yet passed and not yet interpreted New Jersey semi-automatic rifle law?
It is in California.
But it's not in New York. (New York's Safe Act is so badly written that nobody really knows for sure. But the consensus of most legal experts in New York is that it's not a pistol grip.)
Fortunately, there are millions of very smart people in California who have been working on solutions for several years now. (Visit the Cali firearm discussion board for ideas.)
I have hopes that Trump will appoint three more SC justices and the SC will find that the full-featured AR is a firearm in "common use for legal purposes".
(Yes, that may take a few years.)
So in the meantime, do you have a saw?
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2 hours ago, JohnnyB said:Where are you getting 8 years?
The last Democrat New Jersey governor who was reelected to a second term was Brendan Byrne.
That happened in November 1977.
Unless Murphy can manage to find a way for the state to print its own money or he establishes a New Jersey Pirate Kingdom, the state's fiscal problems are insurmountable.
Anything he does is likely to anger more than half of all voters.
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On 4/19/2018 at 11:30 AM, Zeke said:Look at N.J. Nics numbers for a better barometer. Or scale it down.. I personally know very few people without at least 1 firearm in their home.( granted the birds of a feather analogy)
Fun with New Jersey NICS numbers!
https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/nics_firearm_checks_-_month_year_by_state.pdf/view
Over the Obama years -- beginning with November 2008 (election) and ending January 2017 (Trump inauguration) there were 695,181 NICS background checks for New Jersey. (One, and only one of those background checks was for my wife.)
In 1999, the first full year of NICS, there were 38,601 background checks for New Jersey.
In 2001, the first year of the Bush 43 presidency, there were 39,527 background checks for New Jersey.
in 2009, the first year of the Obama presidency, there were 55,530 NICS background checks for New Jersey.
In 2017, the first year of the Trump presidency, there were 103,739 background checks for New Jersey.
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46 minutes ago, capt14k said:
Why is this important? Because I think we need to stop thinking we can get 1M firearms behind us in NJ and be more realistic about the numbers. Which again leads back to where the money is going to come from to win the fight. It needs to come from large donors because there aren't enough small donors.
I don't think there is going to be any groundswell of support for the 2A by the masses in New Jersey.
But we have the Constitution behind us. The state is -- and has been -- up against the limits of clearly violating the 2A. And sometimes smashes right through the limits of the 2A. At least as in Heller, McDonald and Caetano.
It's pioneered state gun control laws nationally since 1966. (Or at least it did until Christie.)
They are resorting to stupid and useless gestures now. An example is Murphy's order to release the stats on the origin of firearms associated with crimes in the state. Information that anyone could find on the internet.
Our hope comes from a couple more SC justices appointed by Trump.
Or moving. (I think the tax reasons for doing that outweigh the 2A reasons.) In fact, I think the slow motion train wreck of the state's finances are likely to do more to -- hopefully -- make Murphy a 1-term governor than gun control laws.
NJ counties with the largest # of FFLs are Ocean and Monmouth. https://www.app.com/story/news/investigations/data/analysis/2018/03/05/gun-sales-licensed-gun-dealers/383106002/The state would be definitely an okay place if there were some way to take the strip of land 10 miles to each side of the NJ Turnpike and give it to New York.
(As it is, New Jersey is Hell with great beaches, pizza and tomatoes!)
I'm in one of "those" counties and pretty much everyone I know has at least one gun in the home -- or I would guess has at least one gun in the home. It's kinda like voting for Trump in the state. (Don's ask, don't tell. Certainly don't put out a lawn sign.)
There are roughly 125K hunting licenses in the state.
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2016/12/number_of_hunters_continues_to_decline_in_new_jers.html
I would love to see Trump's DOJ approach the 2A as a Civil Rights issue.
Which it is.
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2 hours ago, capt14k said:
Looking at those numbers it is highly unlikely there are a million Firearms owners in NJ. 250,000 who are not former or current law enforcement is more likely. The NICS and Handgun purchase permits are pretty steady each year and are likely the same 100,000 people.
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I'll begin by saying that I am skeptical of results of any telephone poll regarding firearm ownership (as I would be about a telephone survey about cash, jewelry and gold coins kept in the home).
However, according to one poll, the firearm ownership rate in New Jersey is 11.3%.
https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/gun-ownership-rates-by-state/4/
http://www.businessinsider.com/gun-ownership-by-state-2015-7
11.3% suggests a number closer to 1,000,000 than to 250,000.
My guesstimate is that the undercount is at least 10% of households, nationally.
My reasoning -- Percentage of US population that own guns: High estimate 63% (“Gun at home makes safer" - Gallup)
http://www.gallup.com/poll/179213/six-americans-say-guns-homes-safer.aspx
(If you thought that a fire extinguisher or smoke alarm made your home safer, wouldn't you have one?)
Percentage of US population that own guns: Low estimate 47% (“Gun at home, or elsewhere on property." - Gallup)
http://www.gallup.com/poll/150353/self-reported-gun-ownership-highest-1993.aspx
What is the actual number in New Jersey?
I don't know, but my own guess is that it's more than 250,000.
My dad served -- volunteered -- in both WW1 and WW2. Serving in the military was pretty much a norm at the time. Many who served brought back souvenirs. (K98s brought back as war trophies often show a "duffel cut" made in the stock to fit them into a duffel bag.) Nice-looking Lugers sometimes turn up in gun buybacks. I don't think that returning with war trophies became unusual until Vietnam and later wars. I'd also guess that there are more than a few guns in steamer trunks and in attics that people don't even think about.
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11 hours ago, mossburger said:Trust me, no state, county, or local department is going to make their officers go out on the streets with 10 round magazines.
I agree it's unlikely that there would be any state restrictions on department-issued firearms, but the Sig p220 has a standard 8-round magazine.
Some PDs still seem to use them.
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3 hours ago, Parker said:They've already have this info on file. Based on the number that are "registered" (I.E. handguns.) It would take a minute to spit out the report.
"There were 57,507 firearms registered in New Jersey, according to a 2017 annual report – up from 55,672 in 2016, 54,612 in 2015, 51,670 in 2014, 50,712 in 2013, 48,989 in 2012 and 46,605 in 2011."
Source: http://nj1015.com/murphy-shoots-for-new-tax-on-gun-purchases-in-nj/?trackback=tsmclip
Are the PPP copies entered into a SP database now? When did that begin? (Bill Gates was 11 years old in 1966.)
I didn't think gun registration has ever been required in the state -- historically, the restriction has been placed at the point of purchase since 1966.
My FPID card was hand-typed out with an old typewriter and I think the PPPs were, too. (That may or may not have changed, but it would have required logging my PPPs into a database manually. With abundant opportunity for errors.)
A few years ago Loretta Weinberg said she couldn't even find the numbers of FPIDs issued by municipalities and introduced legislation requiring the totals be released. I haven't read anything more so either she lost interest or the numbers show something that doesn't support her agenda -- my guess would be that the most FPIDs per capita are found in the safest towns and counties.
Using the US Census Bureau population estimate of a New Jersey population of 9,005,644, the 55,672 number would work out to 0.618% -- less than 1% -- of New Jerseyans purchased a handgun in 2016.
According to the FBI, there were 90,034 NICS background checks in New Jersey in 2015, 121,853 in 2016 and 103,739 in 2017. (Pennsylvania NICS numbers were 993,429, 1,143,220 and 1,062,651 for 2015, 2016 and 2017 respectively).
Guesstimating the New Jersey pistol purchase number another way, if 10% of New Jerseyans own at least one handgun and buy a new pistol on average every 20 years, that's about 45,000 new handguns every year.
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2 hours ago, DirtyDigz said:So are they going to look at the pistol purchase permit registry, determine which pistols likely were sold with 15rd magazines, cross-reference with the (lack of) 15 round magazine firearm registrations, and start to send out violation letters?
They should have Pistol Purchase Permits on file going back to 1966!
I would hate to be the state employee tasked with putting this information into a database. Add to it all pistol purchases made prior to 1966, war trophies brought back from two world wars, people who had the poor judgment to actually move here from some other state, etc. etc. (Including me, of course. I was born in Trenton, moved to America and then moved back to the People's Republic b/c of elderly family members.) Then there is a 10 year period during the Clinton AWB when firearms were sold with no more than 10 round magazines. And people move.
Finding guns based on a database of PPPs would cost the state a lot of money it doesn't have and it wouldn't be anywhere near accurate.
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1 hour ago, voyager9 said:(2) remove a provision that would have exempted law enforcement officers from the bill’s provisions;
Well, good. They should have to put up with the same nonsense as taxpayers.
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44 minutes ago, voyager9 said:They’re already illegal to build. This bill would make them illegal to own/possess. So if you moved here with one it would be forbidden
Wondering if anyone has actually used this as a successful defense in a criminal trial? Anyone know?
New Jersey is usually the #1 state that people move out of.
This reduces greatly the chance that anyone is going to move here with a homemade gun.
Next they will ban ice skating without a helmet. Or didn't they already do that? http://abc7ny.com/news/nj-bill-would-extend-teen-helmet-laws-to-ice-skates-scooters/778264/
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Now they are banning "Ghost Guns".
(And I thought that they already were illegal in NJ, when they were called "zip guns". And have been illegal since the 1960s.)
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QuoteBright, 29, whose full name is Clifford Riheem Elisah Bright, was indicted last week on 26 federal crimes for allegedly trafficking the guns across state lines, from Pennsylvania to New Jersey.
Authorities allege he lied on the federal forms buyers must fill out as part of a handgun purchase, and he fraudulently used a relative's Pennsylvania address, when it appears he was actually living in Trenton.
Mr. Clifford Riheem Elisah Bright might have gotten himself into jail, but he is still a lot brighter than the NJ state legislature.
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Virtue signaling combined with the Law of Unintended Consequences.
I don't think that Florida or any resort state is going to change its gun laws because New Jersey won't send its bureaucrats there.
Unfortunately, I think the chances of this bill actually being signed into law are pretty low.
A few calls from the unions and from the NJEA and the bill will disappear down the memory hole. (They love their taxpayer funded excursions to Disney World!)
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1 hour ago, JimB1 said:Honestly, NJ is broke. I wish they’d pass a law saying no public funds would be spent on travel anywhere...
JMHO
QuoteSYNOPSIS
Prohibits State-sponsored travel to states lacking permit to purchase firearms laws.
CURRENT VERSION OF TEXT
As introduced.
An Act prohibiting State-sponsored travel to states lacking permit to purchase firearms laws and supplementing Title 52 of the Revised Statutes.
Be It Enacted by the Senate and General Assembly of the State of New Jersey:
1. a. Notwithstanding the provisions of any other law or rule or regulation to the contrary, a State agency shall not permit a State officer or employee, special State officer or employee, or member of the Legislature to engage in any travel to be paid, in whole or in part, out of State funds, or to be otherwise sponsored by the State, to any state of the United States if that state has not enacted a permit to purchase firearms law. This prohibition shall also apply to any organization that receives aid from the State.
The provisions of this subsection shall not apply to any travel required for the following purposes:
the enforcement of any New Jersey law, including auditing and revenue collection;
litigation;
any contractual obligation incurred prior to the effective date of P.L. , c. (C. ) (pending before the Legislature as this bill);
This may be the first and last time that I ever agree with Loretta Weinberg.
2A friendly states tend to have nicer weather than New Jersey. (In addition to lower taxes.)
If we can't keep state employees from traveling outside the state, I'd settle for prohibiting them from traveling to nice warm places like Disney World with my tax dollars.
(I am now curious as to how much New Jersey spends on travel to warm, 2A friendly states.)
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45 minutes ago, Old Glock guy said:And BTW, whatever happened to the 1930's SCOTUS ruling that guns needed a military application to be acceptable?
QuoteCaetano v. Massachusetts
Opinion of the Court
In a per curiam decision, the Supreme Court vacated the ruling of the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court.[7] Citing District of Columbia v. Heller[8] and McDonald v. City of Chicago,[9] the Court began its opinion by stating that "the Second Amendment extends, prima facie, to all instruments that constitute bearable arms, even those that were not in existence at the time of the founding" and that "the Second Amendment right is fully applicable to the States".[6] The Court then identified three reasons why the Massachusetts court's opinion contradicted prior rulings by the United States Supreme Court.[1] First, the Massachusetts court said that stun guns could be banned because they "were not in common use at the time of the Second Amendment’s enactment", but the Supreme Court noted that this contradicted Heller's conclusion that Second Amendment protects "arms ... that were not in existence at the time of the founding”.[10] Second, the Massachusetts court said that stun guns were "dangerous per se at common law and unusual" because they were "a thoroughly modern invention", but the Supreme Court held that this was also inconsistent with Heller.[11] Third, the Massachusetts court said that stun guns could be banned because they were not "readily adaptable to use in the military", but the Supreme Court held that Heller rejected the argument that "only those weapons useful in warfare" were protected by the Second Amendment.[12]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caetano_v._Massachusetts
It seems to me that this judge's ruling is at odds with Caetano, McDonald AND Heller.
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Gov murphy's gun tax
in Pending Legislation Discussion
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The best analogy to Goldman I can think of is a pirate ship. A very big one.
Corzine's hedge fund just wasn't big enough not to fail.