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    They verified that you purchased it legally, you had your FPID on you, and you were legally transporting it. All before you were arrested. Something doesn't jive.

     

    They said it was in arms reach, but then the officer said he would not include that in the report. And i previously posted the complaint word for word, and it was not included. Maybe they just want to scare me a little, making me go to court only to have the case dismissed?

     

    But that sounds foolish.

     

    Also, just to correct you. They obviously saw it was in a case when stopping me. After i told him I had a gun, he said "I actually thought it was a pool stick". Upon having me in handcuffs on the road for "their safety", they asked if I had the paperwork, and then for my card. I was THEN arrested under the shotgun being an assault weapon. When we were at the station, they asked for my ID and driver license and ran the check there. That is when they saw I purchased it legally and that the record on it was clean.

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    the shotgun was in a case, yes. I agree that the bigger issue is that it is on a person under 21. That apparently is unclear as well. However, from what I read on the statutes, the issue is that it is an assault weapon, and their is no complaint issued for my age, or could I be wrong? I just dont understand how so many people have so many different ideas of what is legal and what is not. It should be a very clear cut answer regarding what is an assault weapon and what age you need to be to own one. I did research online, and saw that there was no age limit to own one, since it is not a handgun. Who shoots a 20 gauge shotgun one-handed? I am sure I am not walking out of the court room with my gun and 100% cleared..

     

    Can anyone find something that is legal or state printed about an age limit? I can not find anything that says there is no age limit, or that there is.

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    The town I was stopped in was Cherry Hill (i live in Allentown NJ), and it was by a Cherry Hill police officer. I was stopped for failure to stop at a stop sign (I did a rolling stop apparently). Upon Glancing through my car, he noticed the stock and then asked if I had a gun with me. I said yes and he said he was going to put me in handcuffs for his safety, and I said i understand. He then called for backup (about 8 more police vehicles), and they called his supervisor (arrived in a mini van) to find out what was going to happen to me as it was evident they did not know if it was legal or not. They came to the conclusion that the weapon I described which was a Mossberg 500 Pump Persuader 12 GA with a pistol grip was an assault weapon in NJ. They towed my car which I was able to pick up the next morning without a problem, and confiscated my shotgun. They released me the same night as I had no previous record with anything and said if i failed to appear in court, it would be a $27,000 warrant for my arrest.

     

    I was going to cherry hill, as a friend of mine lives there and works on cars so he has a lot of tools. The bolt attaching the stock to the gun was bolted on and nothing I had was able to reach it. We got it off and I put on the pistol grip myself. Upon ordering the gun (which came with both the stock and pistol grip) from the midwest, I asked the dealer if it was legal and if I could do it myself as I am 19. He said yes to both these questions and that i did not need to have a handgun permit to buy it, I picked it up from Sportsmen center in bordentown, bought it, and took it to my previously mentioned friends house to assist me with removal.

     

    Statues I am charged with are all because it is an "assault weapon". The officer said he would leave the part out about it being in "arms reach" ( I drive a Jeep not enough trunk space). Here is a copy of the complaint "WITHIN THIS JURISDICTION OF THIS COURT, KNOWINGLY POSSESS AN ASSAULT FIREARM WITHOUT BEING LICENSED UNDER N.J.S 2C:58-5 OR REGISTERING THE FIREARM UNDER N.J.S 58-12 OR RENDERING IT INOPERABLE UNDER N.J.S 2C:58-13, SPECIFICALLY POSSESSING A MOSSBERG 12 GAUGE SHOTGUN, SERIAL NUMBER XXXXXXX AND MODIFYING IT, WHICH HE WAS NOT LICENSED OR PRIVILIGED TO DO SO, BY REMOVING THE APPROVED STOCK AND REPLACING THAT WITH A PISTOL GRIP RENDERING THE SHOTGUN TO BE CLASSIFIED AS AN ASSAULT FIREARM IN VIOLATION OF N.J.S 2C:39-5F. 3RD DEGREE CRIME.". The shotgun I have, states on the website to have a 18.5 barrel. The shotgun had the full stock attached, but also included a pistol grip and necessary screws and allen wrench in the box with directions on how to put it on in the manual. I am 19, turning 20 in a week, and bought the package without a problem, and even asked the dealer if it was legal for me. He said flat out yes, and that there is no age limit to have a pistol grip shotgun, since it is not a handgun (this is the only thing I am worried about in court). I purchased from Sportsmen center in Bordentown NJ, and had it ordered through them from the midwest. We all know other states RARELY ship firearms to NJ if they are not sure it is legal. It was being transported in my car, with claimed in arms reach, however he said he would not put that on the complaint, just that its an "assault weapon". I am said to have had an assault weapon in the state of NJ and I have to appear in court on the 4th. The court is in the Camden County Hall of Justice in Camden and I am reporting to the superior court. Can ANYONE give me anything in writing or such that I could have to show this gun is not an assault weapon? As far as the ticket for the stop sign, I am just paying it. Its only 80 bucks and this matter is far less important.

     

    I just want my shotgun back so I can take it to the range. Even the officers were impressed by it, and enjoyed looking at in the station, and asked me how much I payed for it.

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    I recently purchased a mossberg 500 persuader shotgun with a buttstock attached, and pistol grip assembly included in the box, legally, in the state of NJ where I live. I was told from the owners that a pump action shotgun with a pistol grip was 100% legal in NJ. I changed the stock to a pistol grip, and was taking it home with me. I was stopped by police, and had the gun confiscated and now have to appear in court as they say it is considered to be an assault firearm. Can anyone supply me with any reputable sites stating laws for pistol grip shotguns? Thank you very much.

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