Fawkesguy
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On 3/1/2024 at 5:51 PM, 1LtCAP said:all of this should already be gone due to the bruen decision. i honestly don't understand how this still stands.
FOID and purchase permits are blatantly unconstitutional, but I don't know if a lawsuit has been filed to challenge them.
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43 minutes ago, xXxplosive said:maybe you should be more concerned with Constitutional Law rather than Murphy's Law.....and yup, there are ranges making statements that their COF given will be / is acceptable to NJ guidelines come 10/1....obviously there are some here that don't believe this to be true yet they go back to the same and do it all again...omo.
I live in NJ and will abide by NJ law. You are free to ignore the entirety of NJ 2C:58, and simply follow the plain text of the 2nd Amendment. Again, you can do whatever you want.
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4 minutes ago, xXxplosive said:you realize doin' the same thing over and over again with the same outcome is the Def. of insanity........omo.
It's the law. Maybe it'll be struck down, but I seriously doubt it. Certainly not by 1 October. You do whatever you want. I will be in compliance with the law.
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Shot the current qualification today at TTC. 47/50. Maybe someday it'll be struck down, but at least I know I'm now covered. Unless/until they move the goalposts again...........
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12 minutes ago, Old Glock guy said:I don't get all the hubbub about this. We have until October for them to sort it out. Why the panicked rush?
I don't know if anyone is "panicking", but 1 October is 66 days from today. Personally, I think it's foolish to wait (and hope) for relief from the courts.
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5 minutes ago, DirtyDigz said:Is that all going to happen prior to October 1st? We shall see...
No idea, but I'm not waiting around to find out. I'm taking my "re-qualification" on August 12th.
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I assume Bumb will issue a PI, but what I'm hoping for is a miracle when it is immediately appealed to the 3rd Circuit. They will almost certainly issue a stay.
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Oh snap! Never been so glad to be proven wrong!
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49 minutes ago, DirtyDigz said:Will Bumb re-open the case and add the new quals to the enjoined stuff?
No.
51 minutes ago, DirtyDigz said:If that happens, will NJ go running to 3rd Cir again to revise the emergency stay?
Of course. :-)
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3 minutes ago, Tunaman said:This is what i saw also. Can they be THAT incompetent?
Hopefully.
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Looks like online applications/renewals for carry permits has gone live:
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1 minute ago, xXxplosive said:where in the 2A does it say anything like this.......I'm ignorant.....tell me please.........omo.
Practically every section of NJ's firearms laws are in violation of the 2A. I'd love to see the state try to provide "historical analogs" that existed at the time of the founding or of incorporation for all existing NJ gun laws.
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21 minutes ago, Tunaman said:..........They are trying to make this so hard and expensive that people wont do it. Vote them all out.
Well, sure. Just like all of NJ's gun laws. We need to beg the state for permission to even purchase a firearm. That's why such a small percentage of people in this state own firearms. It is absolutely by design.
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I have a costco membership. I'll continue to shop there, unless they decide to install metal detectors. Otherwise, I'll just keep my concealed firearm concealed.
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4 minutes ago, DAHL said:today is July 1st so where are the so called "new training requirements"?
Yep. Every day that goes by without them published means less time for us to comply.
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1 hour ago, Grima Squeakersen said:If I had to choose between being part of such a fringe group, or being part of a unified, effective voting bloc that runs roughshod over the liberties of other individuals in the process of exerting its politcal will, I'd grumble (a lot) and take the first option, frustrating though it may be.
Yep, never suggested otherwise. I'm totally in the "fringe" group.
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2 minutes ago, xXxplosive said:guess we're all waitin' for 7/1...........Hmmm.
Ugh........yeah.
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Oh yeah. Pretty much all of NJ's gun laws are unconstitutional. Hell, we need to seek the state's permission to even purchase a handgun. Everything from FPID's on down needs to go. But I'm not holding my breath.
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11 minutes ago, DAHL said:Gun owners in NJ may be a tiny minority but Czar Murphy won the governorship by less that 1% of the vote. In a close election we can make a difference.
Can a small number of votes make a big difference? Yes. Are NJ gun owners any sort of unified, effective voting bloc? No. We are a fringe group in this state.
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29 minutes ago, Old Glock guy said:I've said this before, but I think it's worth repeating. It's a bit to realize that our Constitutional rights hinge on the political whims of the particular judges who handle these cases.
Agreed. The NJ Executive branch, Legislative branch, and a large majority of the population are totally against fully recognizing the 2nd Amendment. Gun owners are a tiny minority in NJ and carry no political weight.
Everything we've gained over the last year hangs by a thread, and the tidal wave of a hostile President, a complicit media, and a rapidly changing electorate trying to sweep those gains away is held back by only a handful of individuals on the Supreme Court. Honestly, it's terrifying. Will we have wins in the courts over the next few months and maybe a few years? I think so, but that is only because we got lucky with President Trump's Supreme Court nominations. It was an anomaly, and won't hold over the long-term. Not with the way this country is headed.
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NJ Handgun Carry Permit Application Experience
in Current New Jersey Gun Laws Discussion
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I agree. But I don't think that's the case.