Chip

Plainfield in Union county.

Also, will I have to go through the whole arduous process with printing, references and interviews again? I got my FID less than 2 years ago.

I do all my shooting in PA, so not being able to buy ammo in NJ for a few months won't be a problem. I'm mostly just concerned with keeping everything as legal as possible. My current FID took 9 friggin months through the state PD, and I'm just worried about being "without papers" for that long. Actually, once I move I'll probably start looking for some place closer to shoot. I hear there's a nice private club in oldbridge.

Currently living in Hunterdon county, moving in 1 month to Union. I have a FID and two licensed and legal handguns. How do I go about getting a new FID? Obviously I need to go to the local PD in the town I'm moving to, but timing-wise, how does this work? Technically my address does not change until I close on the new house, so I can't apply until then. I know the paperwork takes months to go through, so am I in legal limbo until I get the new card?

The assault weapon checklist says a "folding or telescoping stock" counts as a scary feature that you cannot have more than one of. Where is the line drawn between telescoping and adjustable? It seems to me that if the shortest adjustable length is still above the minimum 26", it should be OK. But I know that logic and gun laws don't exactly mix in this state, so I figured I'd double check before I tried to order something. Specifically, I'm looking at this. The description says the total length with the stock completely collapsed is 30", which should be fine. Would this still count as "telescoping" for the AW checklist? If so, does anybody happen to know if a non-adjustable M4 stock will bolt on to this carbine?

Thanks for the answers. I got my card laminated at staples for less than $2 so I should be good to go now.

After a short four month wait, I finally got my FID card and handgun permits. Today I bought my first gun. They gave me the pink copy from the permit to keep, but I'm wondering if I should keep it at home or in the case with the gun. Are you required to carry it with you when you transport the gun, or should I just stick it in my fire box for safe keeping? What about my FID card? It's not laminated or anything, so I'm a bit nervous about just sticking it in my wallet where it will get chewed up eventually. Is it OK to keep it in my range bag, or is that a bad idea in case the bag ever gets stolen? Are you allowed to laminate them so they don't get messed up?

Speaking of "silly California games", does the "bullet button" mod that some use in CA also get around the NJ assault rifle definition by making the magazine non-removable?

The preceding sentence in the PDF I linked says: Since any rifle that meets the criteria (detachable mag and two features) is "substantially identical" to an assault rifle, it is legally considered an assault rifle, regardless of make or model. At least that's how it seems to read. It's a legitimate question. Is this a thumbhole stock? How about this or this? Is there a point at which it stops being a thumbhole and starts being a pistol grip that just happens to connect to the stock at the bottom? What about a stock shaped like this that only connects at the bottom of a pistol grip? I suppose I'm preaching to the choir here, but these rules are both silly and vague. Related question: Are any AR-variants NJ legal? It seems that any version/clone would be considered "substantially identical" to an AR15, which is on the ban list.

Thanks. Using your instructions, I found the PDF here. This appears to be the definition of an "assault rifle": Also, anything on the naughty list is automatically banned, as is anything "substantially identical" to any of these rifles:

The main link in the NJ Firearms Laws sticky is dead and the NRA summary is a bit vague. I'm wondering if anybody has a link to a definitive list of "assault" features, and how many of them you are allowed to have on a rifle before it becomes too scary-looking for legal possession in NJ. I know mag capacity is a maximum of 15 and barrel length is a minimum of 16" no matter what. I'm not sure what the other features are that are either outright illegal or illegal in certain combinations. Thank you for your help.

I actually donated to them yesterday. I didn't realize there was a membership. I wonder if they'd deduct the amount of my donation from membership dues?

So if it's supposed to take 30 days but it always takes a lot longer, how is that OK? What I mean is, if the SOP is to take 2-6 times longer than they're legally allowed to take, shouldn't there be some kind of accountability? I'm not trying to be a dick, but it seems like this would be a slam-dunk lawsuit. Not for damages or anything, but to get a court to mandate that they must be quicker about the whole process. In any event, I'll stop by the barracks on my way home from work and check up on things. I'll be as polite as possible, and I won't even mention this 30-day thing.

It's been a bit over two months since I had my prints taken for my initial FID and handgun permits. As I do not have a local PD, I filed everything with the staties (Kingwood barracks). So far, they haven't even contacted my references. How long should I wait before I do something, and what should I do after that time period? I know it varies a lot by jurisdiction, but I don't want to wait six months only to find out they lost it or something. I've even heard stories of people's permits sitting at the station for months because they were never notified they had come in. On the one hand, I don't want to be a pest, but on the other, I'd like to get my papers eventually. Would it help or hurt to check up on things?

Donation sent. Thanks for fighting the good fight.

This may sound like a bizarre idea, but I wonder if any ranges "board" guns. What I mean is, for a reasonable fee, could I simply leave my gun at the range and not have to worry about transporting it? I looked up CJRPC which Luis mentioned, and their facilities look very nice. Logistically, I'd spend just about as much time driving from work to home to Classic Pistol as I would driving directly from work to CJRPC. This would only work out if they would be willing to board my guns, obviously. I think that might be worth their (rather steep) membership fees. Does anybody know if they do this, or who I would ask about it?

It is a bit closer that CP, but only by about 3 minutes according to google maps. I will definitely check it out before I decide where to join.

I'm in Ringoes and I'm looking to get a membership at Classic Pistol in Southampton. I did look into SCFGPA, but it's a private club and the membership requirements are a bit daunting. EFGA might be an option, but it's a bit further from my home than Southampton. It's also an un-lit outdoor range, so I wouldn't be able to shoot during the week for almost half the year - it would be dark by the time I could get there after work. Whichever range I decide on, since the law says I have to go home first to retrieve my gun, that's what I'll have to do.

This range is the closest to my home and work. I live in Hunterdon county and work in Mercer. It's a dead zone for shooting ranges.

I have gone through the procedure to acquire a FID and handgun permit, have been printed, and am just waiting to be approved. I intend to join a range in southern Bucks county PA, as it is the closest range to my home/work. Ideally, I would like to go to the range after work 1-2 days per week. The issue is that from work (in NJ), my home is 30 min in the opposite direction of the range. It would be much easier for me to simply bring my gun with me to work (locked in a case in the trunk, obviously) and go straight from work to the range. I am not certain of the restrictions on transporting firearms in NJ. I have heard that you are only allowed to transport a firearm to or from a range or gunsmith. Is this true? Would stopping at work for 9 hours between leaving my house and arriving at the range violate this rule? Do I need permission from my employer to have a gun (securely locked away) in my car in their parking lot?

Crap. Not the response I was hoping for, but thank you for the info. Have you found any loaders that do work with the Chiappa?

I know it's a bit of a long shot (pun not intended), but I was wondering if anybody here knew whether the ultimate cliploader works with mags for the Chiappa 1911-22. I know it will work with most 10-shot .22 mags (with minor modifications), but google provides no answers about the 1911-22 specifically. Thanks in advance.

Better than sticks and rocks. Perhaps they were planning to use them like the FP45 Liberator in WWII - hand out lots of cheap pistols to rebels who use them to kill unsuspecting soldiers and take their weapons.

Just got back from Classic Pistol and thought I'd share my experience. I went with my buddy and his wife, and none of us had ever been to an indoor range before. Heck, none of us had ever fired a handgun before. We got there a little after noon, and it was pretty crowded (at least a dozen customers in the store, and most of the lanes in use). Despite the crowd, the staff was friendly and efficient and we didn't have to wait more than a couple minutes for help. We filled out the paperwork required to rent a gun, picked out a Sig P250 in 9mm, got targets, hearing and eye protection, and were in a lane in about 10 min. I'm sure if I had mentioned that we had never done this before, they would have spent some time explaining the proper protocols and techniques, but they were busy and I didn't want to look like an idiot, so we figured it out on our own. Luckily, in preparation for my first range visit, I had watched and felt I had a decent handle on what to do and what not to do. I was warned by a friend that many indoor ranges don't have adequate ventilation systems and get pretty smokey, but this was not the case at CP. The air was clear and you could barely smell the gun smoke. It was also clean and well-lit. The Sig we rented was clean and in good working order with only one failure to feed in 150 rounds. Pricing was very reasonable - a gun rental, three boxes of 9mm, about 15 targets, hearing/eye protection for three people and about 1.5hrs of lane time came to less than $100. We had a good time and we plan to make a regular thing of it. If you're in Hunterdon or Mercer county, Classic Pistol is probably the closest public range and it's well worth the drive into PA.