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  3. Posted

    12 minutes ago, Spdracr said:

    Why are lumping both counties with Daniel and his permit. He's from monmouth County. Not ocean county. 

    He had been denied his permit when he applied back in 2020ish and he appealed it twice I think. So it's an assumption that they restricted him out of spit after bruen. 

    Thanks for the info...I find the spite angle kinda incredulous personally now that the SC has ruled on this. And especially if they take their spite and share it with every wana-be permit holder in Monmouth...Would any rational person with a cushy judge seat take a risk to their job as such...And indeed the spite angle doesn't explain Ocean as you imply.

    If it is applied to all persons in both counties (TBD), I think it is a more deep-routed belief system guided by their political Ideologies...Yea, and (maybe) they collaborated on an ideology, but not cross-county "spit", imo.

    If my permit comes back restricted, I'll be Lawyering up immediately, no way they can get away with this for very long anyway.

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  4. Posted

    24 minutes ago, Lucky Lefty said:

    Nothing has turned out to be false.

    On Sunday, Evan Nappen put out his latest podcast episode talking about the order in question here.

    No mention of it being a work permit, he acknowledged the validity of the orders that we have seen, and he did not mention anything specifically that was being done but did say it's is in the works to be challenged.

    So far we have seen the order come from ocean and monmouth County, while other counties continue to issue completely unrestricted permits.

    My educated guess/specualtion/assumption is that monmouth and ocean county have a personal issue with Daniel Francisco, and in an attempt to render his permit useless without blatantly displaying discrimination against him, they pulled this order out of nowhere and are applying it to everyone in ocean/monmouth going forward.

    There also now seems to be a delay in any other permits that have been issued from these 2 counties in the past 2 weeks. It seemed they were beginning to churn them out, then this order popped up, and now I haven't heard anything about anyone else receiving their permit.

    Perhaps this could be related to the powers that be possiblybtaking a weeks vacation for labor day? Or could there be some commotion in the background with courts and pds trying to CYA and figure out how keep all of their hoops on fire for us.

     

    Great post meaning the job you did in encapsulation and postulation, not what they are doing to us...

    What did Mr. Francisco do to piss these 2 counties off?

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  5. Posted

    Smart thugs and even most of the stupid ones don't "open"-carry (gun/knife/Billy-stick, etc.), would be nice but they don't want to make it too easy for their victims.

    This goes full circle back to the debate of what distance does Granny need to qualify for her pistol permit...25 yards? One would have to think long and hard of where civilians can prove a deadly threat at that distance. Mass shooter, sure, but statistically that is so rare. Some other very rare event, sure...But it is usually right in you face when thug jumps you. Hard statistics show something like 20 feet and under cover 95% (or so) of non cop SD incidents. If you have a 20 feet "warning" consider yourself lucky, most are a lot closer than that.

    Remember distance is your friend in SD, for a thug who is after you, it is just the opposite, they want to be able to smell your breath if they can before they make their move/show their evil intentions.

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  7. Posted

    19 minutes ago, YankeeSC said:

    If you're waiting for them to point it at you, you've waited too long to act.

    But if you point a gun at someone just because he is walking by your car you might be going jail...This is not like Hollywood, you better be sure you can prove a legitimate SD threat before you whip it out. In the moves it is usually an obvious decision, in real life not so much...A smart thug will wait till you are stuck in traffic and not pull his gun out until he is right next to you. Or it may turn out he had no gun and was just crossing the street...You better know what you are doing out there.

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  9. Posted

    9 hours ago, Jim Jones said:

    Fellas-there is a CCW classroom class at we shoot on Sunday the 11th of September.  It’s from 10am-1pm. It costs $10, if you are a US LAW Shield member it is free.  I believe it is taught by a 2A lawyer but not sure.  Just sharing in case anyone is interested.  Hit me up if your going. 

    Jim, did you get your carry permit from the Ocean county judge and was it "un-restricted"? Just trying to figure out if this Judge is giving everyone in the county restricted permits or just on a case by case basis?

    Thanks,

    -Joe

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    9 hours ago, Lostboy said:

    And that's exactly why they don't want you to. They want you to just give up the car, money, etc. You can't use a firearm to defend property in NJ anyway. 

    Yes, and the Thug gets a free Gun too given that it was locked up in the trunk...Gotta hand it to the folks writing these laws!

    Generally, one can't use a firearm just to prevent stealing (if) there is no deadly or serious bodily harm threat on you, but if thug is pointing a gun at you when he is going to steal your car or anything else from you, that certainly qualifies as threat of death and SBH.

  12. Posted

    On 9/1/2022 at 10:24 AM, Jim Jones said:

    Spoke to David at Evan Nappen’s office. Very helpful! David confirmed that the Judge can put restrictions that you cannot drive in a car with a loaded weapon. He did however state that if this happens you should go to a lawyer to request to have this amended because there should not be a substantial difference in just a couple of weeks of what is restricted vs not.  I asked if I was still able to drive with a loaded gun since my permit did not have the restriction and he said “absolutely”.  I hope this helps.

    Jim, thanks for your post...Did David give any further information on what is going on now which should negate this restriction in a few weeks? Is it something he and other 2A lawyers in NJ are fighting right now?  Did he give you any insight if these counties doing this are doing it to all the applicants there, or using some other made-up criteria to single some people out on a case by case basis?

    Thanks in advance!

    Joe

  13. Posted

    On 7/31/2022 at 8:52 PM, Golf battery said:

    None   My pd told me when i went to hand in my second pistol qual that the njsp sent out a memo that one qualification is good for all of them.  So i said. Here just take this anyway and add it to my package.    Thats where im at   

    Yes, this is very true...Unfortunatly (some) not all qualification ranges and some other private qualifications officers are telling people they have to qualify with each gun (and they make money from it)....ianal but njs 2c:58-4 section a, seems pretty clear to me.

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  14. Posted

    There are hidden agenda's here, people are selling courses and looking for customers and of course are going to be biased to the methodology they are selling...Pick a Qualifying officer that suits your SD lifestyle and beliefs and go for it. If you think getting "tested" at 25 yards is adding value to what you are already doing at the range, go for it...If you think doing something which involves more stress at overwhelming statistical "civilian" SD distances whould add more value to whatever you do now at the range go for it. Just by luck yesterday, the latter worked for me (as I already shoot 25 yards every time I go to the range)...Or maybe pick a venue which offers both of some...

    The important thing is to make your own decision, rather then listen to self proclaimed experts "wispering" in your ear on the internet as to what is best for you.

    With that I take my leave, it has been nice, I'll be back next time we have a once in a lifetime ruling from SCOTUS which has emancipated us by giving us the ability to reclaim a freedom we should never have lost. And maybe create even (more) gun related business opertunities in NJ - LOL!

    Good luck on your qual, I would expect most on the NJGF will do well wich ever approch they take.

    It has been fun,

    Adios Amigos!

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  15. Posted

    14 minutes ago, 45Doll said:

    I'll accept that. If he indeed managed to do all that in 10 minutes, I'll have to rethink why I spent two days and a thousand rounds at a tactical training course.

    Well, I'll add, if one is a very experienced shooter, it was valuable in that sence because you are just slightly incrimenting your skill set, if one is not so experienced it might not work out too well...Our metaphoric "Granny" who I introduced last week in debate here who likely dosn't go to the range much, probably would have a hard time with it and as such not get much value. She would be much better off starting with a more formal training class.

    But rest assured, even though 2 or 3 people where moaning and groaning about how difficult it was, everybody past. I told the instructor it was a totally Hoot (reminded me of USPSA), only that I was having trouble hearing him a bit. If you have been shooting for a while and say around once a month in frequency or say 9 times a year or so, and especially if you have competed in USPSA or equivelent, you will not have any issues passing.

  16. Posted

    41 minutes ago, 45Doll said:

    Thank you. Personally I've never heard of anyone carrying a box of ammo with them to manually reload their magazines while in the middle of a gunfight. So I'm not sure what utility that served, or what that has to do with accurately shooting a handgun.

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    1 minute ago, Combat Auto said:

    YW...I think I and others here mentioned, the Officer wanted to get the point across that one has to think on their feet and deal with stress in a real life SD event so it was just being used as a method to help accomplish such...Honestly, imo, he did a great job overall given the constraints he has to deal with, and much more practicale/valuable then to ask us to shoot at 25 yards and what not...I shoot at 25 yards every time I go to the range, what he did yesterday was more unique and why I liked it. (He just needs to use a bull-horn :-)).

     

  17. Posted

    15 hours ago, RichP said:

    what do you mean "stuffing rounds into mags all on the clock"?

    Do you lose points if you can't reload your mags quickly enough?

     

    It is interesting when I called for the appointment the Lady who scedules told me the reloads where not on the clock, so it was a surprise when I got there yesterday...

    In the pre-briefing he did say we would shoot 35 rounds and reload on the clock, meaning changing mags and also stuffing rounds in the mags on the clock. NO time out to re-stuff your mags. (we of course were allowed to pre stuff the mags we had before it started)

    Most of us had 3 mags so we knew we would have to stuff 5 more rounds into mags at some point. One guy had only 2 mags so he had a bigger challange...One guy came with 5 mags so he didn't have to do any stuffing on the clock. Kinda weird they did it that way, they should have just told everyone ahead of time that we will all use 3 mags to even the playing field.

    But net, net, the suprise about stuffing and recharging on the clock was a pleasent one, lots of fun and  truly relavent-experience in a short 7-10 minuits.

    What is also funny, in preperation a week ago I shot the 50R FBI qual at my outdoor range, I started at 25 Yards COLD and worked inwards (to make it a little more challanging) with my 9mm PPQ 4". I scored a 98% only dropping 1 round (9mm is an easy round to shoot especially if one mostly trains with 45 - no wonder it is so popular). So the shoot yesterday was nothing like that, in retrospect it was a pleasent surprise as I did find value in the Qual yesterday.

     

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  18. Posted

    16 hours ago, 45Doll said:

    Where was this please?

    It was at Shooters in Egg Harbor...They did a great job, well organized, quick in and out, the Q-Officer  covered the fundi's of "Use of Force" - everyone here should know them by now, but there could be Nubies at the qual...And honestly the way this particular Q-officer ran the shoot it was a very good experience as far as being more realistic to SD than most venues (and I shot USPSA for 6 years too - which is also valuable in this regard)...And he did it in less than 10 minuts!!!

    The only "beef" I had as I stated above, was they should be using a Bull-Horn to shout the commands over all the shooting, easy fix not sure why they don't...Being on opesite end of the line, I had to stick my head (back) from my booth look at his partner who was nearer to me and get the comand relayed to me. This takes time and we didn't have a lot of it with the reloading and shooting all on the clock. Bright side, I had more induced stress than others, so I got some extra free SD training ;).

  19. Posted

    10 minutes ago, Mr.Stu said:

    Was it 1 guy watching 7 shooters?

    2 Fellas where watching us. Whoever signed the "paper' has lots of nice credential, by the "book", no idea what credntials the other guy has but he seemed to know what he was doing.

  20. Posted

    I did my Qualification shoot this morning...The shoot was a lot of fun, fast and furious, we shot 35 rounds in less that 10 mins, one person said 7 mins don't know if he actually timed it...It was all SD distances out from 3 to 10 yards, lots of 1-handed, one head shot. Fast and furious, barking out commands for the various mini-drill one after the other, no stopping, we were required to reload not only mags into gun but stuffing rounds into mags all on the clock...It was a total HOOT! Haven't had that much fun shooting since I gave up USPSA competition a few years ago.

    Every round I shot was spot on (9mm is a really easy gun to shoot especially given I mostly train with 45 cal), the biggest challange for me was to hear all the orders from the officer over the shots of say 7 shooters in the line up (yep, had my e-ear protection on full blast). He stayed mostly on the other end of the line up from where I was...
     
    I'd say, for a Civilian based on the OVERWHELMING statistics about civilian shootings it was a very appropo test (much more relavent than making Granny shoot out to 25 yards). It might be a little challanging for Granny though based on the speed we went and having to stuff rounds (in) mags on the clock.
     
    One page listing all the guns you qualify with, which is really moot, the statute is black and white qualify with one gun covers you for all guns you own.
     
    Well, the rest is paper work to get the permit, and we have to shoot/qualify every 2 years which isn't too bad.

  23. Posted

    1 hour ago, CapGuns&SnapsKid said:

    I saw this on NJGunReddit, I wonder what the other ranges and instructors qualification sheets look like. maybe we can post them up in here?! just a thought.

    QUAL.jpg

    I am being told that some of them include 5 lines to fill in (as needed) for the guns you qualify with.

  24. Posted

    4 hours ago, Mr.Stu said:

    I am running a session this coming Thursday morning. If anyone would like to get their qualifications, please email me at [email protected]

    Ha, ha, ha, wow, now I know why you had such an "unbiased"-LOL! opinion about harping on quals at long distances. Nice little gig, I'm jelous ;-). This is just too much (in funny way)...The friendly ribbing aside, glad you are offering it so people can get their button. Still, I need to laugh a bit more - LOL!

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  25. Posted

    23 hours ago, DAHL said:

    Stu the point that I am trying to make is that civilians are not police. Most states understand this and have alternatives, none at all or very easy requirements for carry. Certainly seniors, women, and people that have a touch of arthritis in my knees as myself would have trouble firing from a kneeing position. I will try to to qualify with my Glock 26 and I will probably pass as long as I don't have to kneel down and shoot.

    You arn't going to get anywhere with logic here because some want to show how many testosterone pills they use per day rather then be rational about this -LOL...They keep making comparison of how a LEO/X-leo may need to qualify and to what Granny might need. As if they have the same "duty" with a gun. It stupid on the face of it...Now they are going to get outrages at this post and say "didn't you see the mall-mass-shooter slayer last week, Granny needs to be able to defend herself at 45 yards - don't you know!" as IF that event carries any statistical significants for Granny. And we don't need to make excuse for Granny or anyone at any age, healthy or not, who may just want their carry to defend themselves at (lets call it) statistically significant civilian SD distances, which everyone should know by now is about what this chart from lucky gunner shows (note this does not include police shootings because it would be statistically-stupid to do so. They have another graph for cop incedents). Oh look at that, 91% of the civilain SD shooting happen at less than 5 yards, and 95% less that 7 yards. If Granny needs to qualify at all that is the distance and no more, statistics, logic, and her Damm Constitutional Rights demands it. The rest is just BS.

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