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  8. Posted

    48 minutes ago, voyager9 said:

    How are are things that are issued/accepted across states codified?  Drivers licenses, marriage, etc?  Does each state have a unique agreement with every other state or is there a single codifying document at the federal level? 

    I believe drivers licenses are state issued and not controlled by the federal government. There is a compact agreement between all of the states where they accept out of state licenses and exchange data between the states. It was started in the 1960's. There are some exceptions such as with learner's permits which some states have different age restrictions for.

  9. Posted

    6 minutes ago, Zeke said:

    That’s not an argument 

    Sorry, my attempt at humor.

    Sorry the following is long but I am not sure I am getting my point across in previous posts (although I might be and then we can chose to disagree).

    When the COTUS was written it was to protect the states and the people against an overreaching federal government. They didn't want to go back to a king. The bill of rights was only to protect us against the federal government. State constitutions protect our rights from each state. If we don't like what a state is doing (like NJ, etc) we can freely move to another state. These states we consider free have sections in their state constitutions that do protect our right to keep and bear arms. Later after the civil war we passed the 14th amendment which allow "some" of the rights that we are protected against from the federal government to also protect us against the state governments. Heller/McDonald did that with our 2A rights at least in our homes at this point. That is why no state (or DC) can take away our right to own firearms in our homes. One day we may get a decision that does the same with our right to carry arms outside our home. But so far SCOTUS has not been willing to take one of these cases (or the ones that do want to take the case feel they will not get the needed 5 votes for it to succeed).

    I just don't see why this is a constitutionally protected 2A case. We all have a protected right to free speech but each state or city can require us to get permits to hold rally's. A not so great analogy would be to get a permit to hold a rally in PA and expect NJ to honor it. The fundamental issue that doesn't get solved with H.R. 38 is do we have a constitutionally protected right to carry arms outside our homes? This attempts an end run around the issue. I just don't see how this will pass a constitutional test.

    The CCW permits are state issued permits. Each state sets their own requirements. Each state decides which other states permits have reciprocity in their state based upon their own criteria. The federal government has IMHO no business telling the states anything about CCW permits.

    The federal government cannot tell each state to accept other states drivers licenses as it is up to each state to decide this. Again a not so good analogy as the right to drive is not a constitutionally projected right. But so far SCOTUS has not said that carrying a firearm outside our home is a constitutionally protected right.

  12. Posted

    50 minutes ago, GRIZ said:

    Keep in mind the Federal government and COTUS are there to prevent the state from violating your rights under COTUS.

    I though the COTUS was there to protect the states and the people from the Federal Government. The rights in the bill of rights are only protected against the Federal Government. States could do as they pleased at least at the signing of the COTUS. It wasn't until the 14th amendment that some of the rights started being incorporated against the states. 

  14. Posted

    Under what constitutional authority can the federal government force a state to accept the CCW of another state. I want this as much as anyone else but I'm not sure getting it passed is the end. This will be challenged by all of the anti-gun states. This is not an enumerated right in the constitution. That leaves the right to the states.

    If this gets overturned then we are left with 1/2 of our so called compromise: more gun control. IMHO (with nothing) the only way we get CCW is when the second amendment right to carry a firearm outside the home is recognized by SCOTUS and makes it the law of the land. After Heller/MdDonald no state now bans firearms in the home any longer which was an amazing victory.

    I want this as much as anyone and have contacted my rep and give money to all of the gun rights orgs. Just trying to be realistic.

  18. Posted

    4 minutes ago, Zeke said:

    having trouble finding information for prohibited places in N.J. for licensed N.J. CCW holders, currently.

    According to the CCW app you can't carry in educational institutions and Casino's.

    If one is traveling between a bunch of states then make sure they allow the # of rounds in your mags. For example CT is 10 and NJ is 15 (until January when it goes to 3-4 ;-)

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  20. Posted · Edited by NJGF

    I don't think NJ restricts open carry. If you have a permit to carry you can either open or conceal carry. At least legally that is true and the side effect is you will get to know lots of NJ Leo's up close and personal :-) 

    Update: I am not sure this statement is true so take it for what you paid for it. I searched for a NJ CCW and it included the word concealed. A couple of years ago I saw one in person but don't have any idea about the wording on it.

  21. Posted

    Does anyone really want to support a bill that is embraced by Chuck and Diane. We need to be patient. Unfortunately that could take our lifetimes. But it is not worth going down a rabbit hole not knowing where it is leading. NICS can be fixed without any new legislation.

    We should support H.R. 38 as a standalone bill. If we don't have the votes yet then so be it. Don't vote for any politician that didn't support it. Call and/or contact your representative in the House today.

    And if we want to be free we should leave NJ (I know it is not so easily done because of family and jobs).

  24. Posted

    I like your volcano eruption. Its a good way of looking at the value of anything.

    I'm not sure I see the need for bitcoin. If I want to be anonymous I can currently pay with cash.

    But it seems like the latest craze. Some people will make lots of money and others will lose money. Reminds me of Dutch Tulips.

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