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  7. Posted

    That is why I brought this up, because you think you are OK with the rifle in your trunk outside of school areas (and with a FPID you are, per NJ Statute), but then if you let your legal guard down you can get jammed up on ammo. 

     

    Hollow Points - You can buy hollow points, you can bring them directly from point of purchase to your home, and you can have them in your home, and you can bring them to and from the range, but generally speaking you CAN NOT otherwise just have them in your possession.  You CAN NOT have hollow points in your car, in your bag, etc, when going to the supermarket or a movie.  Felony.

     

    A rule of thumb - a hollow point round is like a handgun.  Buy it, bring it directly home, bring it directly to and from the range, otherwise keep it home and out of your car.  Note that even if you were somehow magically able to get a NJ carry permit, EVEN THEN you couldn't load up with hollow points.

     

    So if you were going to keep a .22 rifle in your trunk, make damn sure that the ammunition you have with it isn't hollow point.  There are bulk packs out there that are not hollow point.  Just gotta look for them (when availability comes back).  CCI also makes non-hollow point rounds.

     

    By the way the earlier advice is right - the NJ Exemptions need be followed with respect to rifles and shotguns ONLY if you don't have a FPID, and the exemptions need be followed with respect to pistols ONLY if you don't have a handgun carry permit.

     

    NJ Law operates like this:

     

    FIRST, it bans entirely possession of any firearm outright.  Yes, a complete and total ban, such as would be enacted in any totalitarian country.

     

    SECOND, it provides that notwithstanding the outright ban, you can possess rifles and shotguns if you have a FPID and they are unloaded, and that you can possess pistols (loaded or not) if you have a carry permit. 

     

    THIRD, it provides a list of exemptions from the outright ban, so that if you don't have a FPID and you don't have a carry permit, you can still do what is banned (possess rifles, shotguns and/or pistols) if you fit inside of one of the exemptions.  Being at your house is an exemption.  Going to and from the range is an exemption.  Going hunting is an exemption.  Being a New Jersey police officer is an exemption.  Etc.  Surprisingly, being a police officer from a different state is NOT an exemption, even if that police officer is in uniform.  So a NYPD officer coming across the border in uniform with open carried sidearm would be an instant felon.  Wonderful state.

     

     

     

    But you don't need to be in an exemption with respect to unloaded rifles and unloaded shotguns if you have a FPID, and with respect to pistols (loaded or not) if you have a pistol carry permit.  Don't even need to go there, since exemptions are only necessary when you DO NOT have a FPID (or if you do have a FPID and your rifle/shotgun is loaded - such as would be the case when you are hunting) or you DO NOT have a pistol carry permit.

     

    Finally, and I say this over and over again, join the ANJRPC, pay their membership fee (what is it, like $35 bucks?) and then you will be able to call one of the six attorneys listed in the back of the member newsletter - these attorneys will answer member questions on NJ law over the phone for free.

    I believe the Patriot Act allows LEO to carry in other states. I saw 4 NYPD uniform officers on the platform at Newark Penn Station months ago.

  24. Posted

    It was supposed to be through your local PD, and they sent it off to SP. HOWEVER, if you already have the permits, some members have reported success sending it directly to SP themselves.

     

    If you need your pistol permits, you have to go through your local PD as on the forms, you need to write the permit number iirc.

    I have 4 P2P and I have 4 pistols waiting at one FFL.

     

    I completed my sections on forms SP015 & SP016 as instructed  and mailed to the FFL he said he will fill in the rest of the needed info.

    He said they were mailed to NJSP. I had someone check with NJSP today and they have no paperwork on file for my exemption. I was also told that the forms go to local PD first and they send them to the SP.

    I started this a few months ago!!!!

  25. Posted

    It is pretty much a rubber stamp.  You have 3 boxes, 1. Inheretence by will, 2. Collector, 3. Competitor.  You have option of writing with extra stuff.

     

    I just chose Collector.

     

    I signed the forms on 4/29/13, gave them to the PD next day, and the approval day of the exemption is May 3rd.... so essentially it was processed the same day or next day when State Police received it.

    Do you submit the forms to the your local PD or to the NJSP first?

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